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#4169830 - 11/19/09 07:44 PM SAL #473 on 11/16/09
Jons3825 Offline
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http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/newsmedia/releases/?req=20091118b

#'s 474 and 475 to be added sat by your truely.... But mine will come form public waters like it should be. Not farm raised fish.
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#4169900 - 11/19/09 08:00 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
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Agree w/ you Jons38225. Seems like private ponds should have their own category and not be included w/ public waters.

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#4169935 - 11/19/09 08:11 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: IIIMag]
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doctor detwiler caught a sharelunker. wonder what private lake he caught it at.
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#4170017 - 11/19/09 08:31 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: SFAbassguy]
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Loc: Dayton, TX
Really, #474, and 475 both? Bless you man

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#4170193 - 11/19/09 09:09 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: fosterfence]
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Honestly, why do you care where the fish comes from? How does it affect you? Were you just dying to get #473? Did it crush you?

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#4170219 - 11/19/09 09:16 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: RoughHuff]
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so toyota stepped up to save the program way to go.
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#4170489 - 11/19/09 10:42 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: RoughHuff]
Jons3825 Offline
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Originally Posted By: RoughHuff
Honestly, why do you care where the fish comes from? How does it affect you? Were you just dying to get #473? Did it crush you?


not at all, but the same skill to target the fish, entice the fish to take your bait, have the same open areas to have to learn and know,etc..... it is just not the same as someone who fishes a big body of water with the pressure public lakes.
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#4170559 - 11/19/09 11:07 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
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Paul is a great angler an surgeon he has caught some great fish here in Lake Tyler one of the most preasured little lakes in East Texas .I know him pretty well an he did my surgery.So my CONGRATS TO PAUL nice fish. how do you no how that lake is fished (preasured)KVD fishes that same private tank so does some other pros,not so private huh. If it was so easy to catch share lunks out of private lakes why isnt every one doing it look at the numbers between private an open waters,an there are ten to twenty times more private lakes an ponds in Texas than open water lakes.I smell jelousy do your homework before you post,an give credit where credit is do.An Paul if you read this post great job man!!!
Dallas


Edited by buzzzfrog (11/19/09 11:15 PM)
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#4170581 - 11/19/09 11:24 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
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never said I did not give him credit. and just because KVD, Ike and Skeet fish the same place does not mean it is Public. I have 14 little community ponds out in east tx that only about 100 or so people can fish and if I got one out of there it would go back.

how do you no how that lake is fished (preasured)KVD fishes that sane private tank so does some other pros,not so private huh.

I dont know, nor do I really care. It is not an open to the public water such as Fork, Ray Bob, EM, PK, etc where it take more SKILL to target fish as there is much mor water to cover, learn, know, fish correct, etc. Pond fish will take a LOT more baits than any given fish on Fork. Fish have natural habbits just as people do, but someone sheltered will be more nieve just as pond fish. It sounds as if your the one with the problem here, I posted this to GIVE credit to the fish and fisherman ( I did not see you post it, only to ride someone else's coat tails.. some friend and supporter huh?) I stated my opnion on the topic, had people agree with me and I even added a lil humor to spur the comradery of the forum to go along wiht the playful banter we all so much enjoy. You took this as a person attack on someone you think is getting shortchanged. If you smell jelousy then maybe you need to take a shower... and if you do not like my opnion then you need to click the ignore button on me because I am not going to keep it to my self, ahhh the greatness of being in america.
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#4170593 - 11/19/09 11:32 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
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Surface area: 2,224 acres (Tyler West)
2,276 acres (Tyler East

Surface area: 27,264 acres (Lake Fork)

"With over 300,000 people visiting Lake Fork in a years time ...."

Can Lake tyler ( east or west) boast those numbers? Can any of the little ponds boast those numbers? I dont think so.... there is the homework, done and passed. What do you have?
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#4170612 - 11/19/09 11:43 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
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If Its so easy to target these fish why is it that only 21 lunks have been caught in Private waters,compared to 452 open waters.Do you know more people fish private waters in this State than open waters.I fish at least 30 different tourneys a year for 8 years an probably only fished 25 are so give r take open water lakes.I have fished 100 are so private lakes ponds etc.Its numbers if its so easy like you say the numbers would show I just disagree,an this is a decent size little lake.An i seen no grattitude in your first post,it was as you were downing the fact he caught it in a private lake (like it should be)thats why you dont make the rules.Numbers dont lie
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#4170618 - 11/19/09 11:45 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
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#4170620 - 11/19/09 11:46 PM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
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You add up private waters compared to open waters over double surface area you failed your home work
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#4170649 - 11/20/09 12:03 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
Jons3825 Offline
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I failed? Whatever dude. You just earned the lil check box for ignore! I really HATE people that dislike something yet are so drawn to it to tell others why they are right when they can just not read it and move on. MY personal opnion is IT IS A PUBLIC deal as should be a PUBLIC WATER EVENT. If it was all the same why does someone not just go and buy lake fork fry and build a pond and raise the next world record? That fish will be worth over a mil plus perks. Now if YOU dont like MY PERSONAL OPNION then do not read it. Click the lil ignore box under my name and be done with it. Also I did nto see anythign to prove your lil ponds get anywhere near the pressure that the lakes I named do. So again you failed, and now you dont even get to know what I think of your reply to this. Thanks and good luck to you.
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#4170656 - 11/20/09 12:07 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Monte Coon]
Jons3825 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Monte Coon
Awesome fish no matter where it's caught.
Agree it is an awesome fish, never said it was not. I just think there should be some sort of regs on it so someone does not just build a SAL or world record tank and farm raise them. To me that is no different then hunting deer at the feeder after they are trained to eat at a time of day in a spot.

AGAIN THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPNION AND NOT THE OPNION OF ALL BASS FISHERMEN, TFF, TP&W.... ALL OPNIONS EXPRESSED DO NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF THE TFF, BASS,FLW,ETC.....


Edited by Jons3825 (11/20/09 12:09 AM)
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#4170664 - 11/20/09 12:15 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Jons3825]
buzzzfrog Offline
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my little ponds (ha ha)dont get stocked with bass every year either.Lake fork stocking 13.092.653 large mouth bass an a whole lot of them are share lunker strain,an most are florida bass.These open water lakes are getting stocked on a regular bases these (lil)private tanks do not get stocked as much an do not produce a lot of share lunkers it is harder to go out an catch a share lunker in private waters than open waters,again its in the numbers.
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#4170697 - 11/20/09 01:02 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: buzzzfrog]
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Guys it's just BASS FISHING.. lets try to keep it FUN and less Personal... Chill the argument OK?

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#4170707 - 11/20/09 01:48 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Bazztex]
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Originally Posted By: Bazztex
Guys it's just BASS FISHING.. lets try to keep it FUN and less Personal... Chill the argument OK?

Bazz fish


Amen to that Bazz.

These fish will spawn at the Freshwater Fisheries Center, more than likely more than once, and the progeny that these fish produce during their spawns at the FFC will be placed, at least in part, in public waters. For this reason alone, I believe that they are a very useful addition to the Sharealunker program
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#4170763 - 11/20/09 05:07 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: The Fishing Physicist]
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I agree SAL should not be recognized on Private Water
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#4171000 - 11/20/09 08:06 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: RedRanger]
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Registered: 06/12/06
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Loc: round rock, tx
I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying
"look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman.

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#4171013 - 11/20/09 08:10 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: doctorb]
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jealously, that's all.

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#4171068 - 11/20/09 08:26 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: doctorb]
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Posts: 1074
Loc: Downtown Tomball, Texas
Originally Posted By: doctorb
I think some of you guys have a misunderstanding of the SAL program. The program is set up to hopefully improve the genetic potential of largemouth bass that will be stocked in our resevoirs. Why would it matter where the fish comes from? The program is not designed to give the angler a merit badge saying
"look at me, I caught a big fish". It will hopefully benefit all the bass fisherman.


Well put doc, that is my understanding as well. Once the eggs are pulled off a fish, the fry don't know where momma came from, nor their daddy.

They run around asking, "Whos yo' daddy?"
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#4171087 - 11/20/09 08:34 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: E5Zero]
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The Dr caught a SAL,,,im just now finding out about it. Congrats Dr! Glad to see the SAL is up and running in full strength. I wish I could get out on that private lake.
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#4171115 - 11/20/09 08:42 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: E5Zero]
Mexicajun1 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/09
Posts: 2185
Loc: Poth, TX
I got a question about the SAL Program. You hear about all the large females caught and donated to the program (don't matter public or private waters). My question is where do they get the TROPHY MALES to fertilize the eggs and improve the gene pool?



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#4171158 - 11/20/09 08:55 AM Re: SAL #473 on 11/16/09 [Re: Mexicajun1]
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Loc: Tyler TX
My congrats to DR. Paul... That is an awesome fish whether public or private. Good Post Doctorb you described the SAL program the way I believe it to be intended. That has to feel awesome to have the only SAL weighed in from a private pond in November.

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