This here is an open invite to all the pals here at the TFF.

Who's in for a Black Friday Meet n' Wade the Denison Dam Red River -after Turkey Day Nov 27th.

If the idea gets off the ground, I'll top post new details here

Every one try to fly a TFF logo and AND YOUR POSTING NAME
and remember boys and girls the event is .....
Generating dependant !

http://www.swt-wc.usace.army.mil/power/hydropower.html#DENI

http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_000...ite_no=07331600


PS for the newbies - she's a slippery eel, the Red, best bring one or two extra changes diapers wa wa wait - dry clothes !


- I changed it to 'daytime striper bash'

I would do this in a heartbeat but I am out of town. I expect to see lots of pictures though.

Damn, thats the same day as the TFF Daingerfield State Park Pickerel one fly Tournament.

not really a lot of chicks on this forum

that sounds like a good one.

Well EVERYONE speak up - we can move the Red Date


How About this Sat 21 or Sunday the 22nd


1st weekend of Dec?

fixed

Gosh that sucks I am going to be in Copell on T-day but have to leave back to Austin early Friday morning to. . . um . . . work.

*ss ug lease an uo ump hat hread to the top

Day after TDay sounds like a good day to descend upon the Red

That would be black Friday mister Robin sir.

that is correct. I am putting in my two cents that, no matter what else, some folks meeting on Black Friday could be a good thing.

Only thing is, I am getting sick and tired of wading in from Texas side and need to get some floatyness to go in from Oklahoma and out to where big mamma resides

If this event blows up BIG - it could be the demise of black friday and the start of "Red Friday" with millions of lonely 6:30 store managers all sad and 'wtf'? opening crowdless doors to empty lots. Pre Week long news blurbs of folks buying cheap fly combos by the scads. Folks 30 deep along the Red, all our important and smiling faces interviewed with " Back in the day...' comments sigh...

Eat twice as much as usual on turkey day.

Is wading difficult or not allowed on the okie side of the river?

It's easier to wade in from the TX side, but easier to get in the water with a floating conveyance from the OK side - and the floating conveyance gives you more options to chase more fish.

No, wading is better on the Okie side as it is a big sandy beach. Texas side is rocks and trash, tip toeing out while trying to not fall down into the mono, crank baits and old diapers.

having a floaty thing and launching from Oklahoma puts one out over the deep water without needing to spend an hour sweating bullets and taking leaps of faith to get out to where one can perch on a submerged rock (OK, that is my subjective point of view on wading out very far from Texas bank) and try to keep one's balance while casting and hoping that a giant striper will take the fly and at the same time hoping that a giant striper does not take the fly because then you'd be in the same situation as my aunt's poodle when it finally did catch up to that squirrel one day "whatcha gonna do now?"

Being pulled about on the Red River in a float tube or canoe would be elegant. Getting pulled in off of your rock would suck at Dyson levels.

I guess where I have put in from that beach it seems to get fairly deep pretty fast... and for all the reasons you mentioned, I definitely prefer taking the tube up there. Frankly, I doubt I'll ever wade-fish that water again. The rocks are slicker than anything I've ever walked on and it is a solid mess of mono too. Much more pleasant in something that floats.

And I'm guessing that it's too shallow to make it feasible to attack this location in the Green Weenie?

I see folks out there in boats all the time. Scott Bridgess takes his Boston Whaler in there alot. The water is fine, it's more an issue of getting launched as there is no ramp, just a sandy beach. Scott's advice was 4WD only. Anyone else have launch tips for trailered boats on the Red below Denison?

Bring a $ 20 and pay a local 4 wheel to launch you

Bring a pump and drop your tires to 4 lbs pressure = drive in and out

Bring a long tow rope and get yanked out of the stuck while the crowds go wild


Bring a twelve pack and pay for a hand push

That does make wading sound a lot easier, Steve. Especially when I think of my poor old 1 ton slick-tired Dodge stuck in the Okie sand.

I wouldn't put a motor boat in up there unless I knew exactly where I was going, the rocks are great in number and un-remorseful...also if wading the vast number of rusty hooks and fishing line is treacherous.

Yeah - you dont really need a motor at all for the top



there is another hot pool 3 ? miles down

plus like 400 more miles of river behind that
plus then the ocean, and thats another 1.2 million miles of shore, infinite circling.... navigating, pirates, capture...

best pack a lunch

Wow, you should work for the Greater Dennison Board of Tourism. haha

And dont kid your self, with felt boots and a safety knife and "above deaf" hearing , the red is a fun and all day wade. And totally productive

Shore casting sucks totally

I agree wit ya, but it aint no playground (despite what 178 Mex cans thought when I was there) be careful is all I am saying, I would love to fish up there out of a kayak, canoe or small boat, but I wouldnt put a motor on it (unless you have a spare lower unit)

hey TRR, Welcome to Texoma, gateway to the home of Oklahomo redfish.

Kinda need to know the water for a motor boat. Going down river very far is a no no without a jet drive (generation only) or a air boat. Yaks work great. Long very hard paddle back if the are generating. Be careful of steel and rebar below the 75 bridge.

Launching a big boat on OK side is pretty much 4WD terriory. Easier to launch and load during generation. Stay close to the big cottonwood tree during generation. You have to go futher east during non-generation, fairly shallow. Sunken logs east of Brokeback Point about 200 to 300 yds downstream. Becareful of old pilings by Brokeback Point. Channel is cut next to TX side. Best to survey area when the water is down.

This post may seem a little bumpy. Traveling 75 mph down I-35. I'm not driving. Just applied for TWIC card in OKC. Have you ever molested a Trout is one question. I lied.

P.S. You can not hear the horn down by the 75 bridge.

Gracias Scott

are you using an iPhone or such as that?

fish molestation can happen to the best of us
http://donjordanoutdoors.com/pages/molestfish.htm

PSS you'll will know you missed the horn about 30 minutes too late tough.

No my laptop. Works great!

Careful with that, you don't want to have to register as a piscatorial predator.

Maybe next time, my Black Friday plans include the S. Platte river that day.

I'm changing it to 'Striper Bash'

the heck with a tournamnet, I aint doing that.

whacking sticks legal ?

chicks really dig a big stick

Yup, you can whack stuff if you are good at it.
Right fellas ?

i have gotten suck 2 times unloading my Fishcats.... i can go on the sunday though is your still thinking of days and times to set this..

I really wish I didn't have to work on Friday, this looks like it has the potential to be awesome (or fun at least).

I'm up over 60 % chance*, going friday am
fishing and early early dawn till noon +

in my sweet Kamloop Float tube

anyone else interested ?


* gates open at 9:30
a no generating saturday would change my plan, to saturday

I bet they are generating just cause so many folks are gonna be at home for the holidays

let us know how it went!!

Dang it TB

lets us know how it went......?

thats pretty much the most polite way say the opposite of " I'm gonna go !"


Saturday is looking like a safer bet.

Well, in the companion statement to 'let us know how it went'.... How'd it go?

I whimped !

- the weather was nice enough
- I have an awesome new Kamloops Float tube, well outfitted
- the generating's been at full blast
- no buddies were available
- it was the Sunday AM 1st flush that ruined every thing,
the thought of me getting sucked into a stage 2 whirlpool, all alone, water's cold, a life time of bad karma's long overdue....

Yup I whimped.

That must be happening on the Okie side. Texas girls aren't that easy.

All this talk about Red on Black and .... ?

went, we had a dink free sunday too

the fish are fat and cooperative, as was the generating schedule for change.

wooo hooo - going back soon

pics?

No pics from me today... hands were chilled & clumsy and the only fish I caught that I would've wanted a picture of broke me off. Whatever it was, it was pretty impressive. Other than that, a pretty good day with a few decent stripers, two fat sand bass, and strangely enough I caught a 10-inch shad.

Steve caught dozens, maybe scores, or even hundreds of fish. After about an hour or so they all got so tired of getting hooked in the mouth all the fish just swam over and crawled up in his lap. He's like the fish-whisperer or something.

Gotta bring my video camera next time.

" all the fish just swam over and crawled up in his lap. "

Yup, and if you have to ask 'is that a fish sitting in your lap or are you just glad to see me ? '

You might be better off just wondering if I've been at the lake ! AND you better be a girl.

So Steve is the Davy Crockett of fishing?

Spake the squirrels unto David Crockett, "Don't shoot, Davy, we're comin' down."

Actually - any of you boys go off thinking of that 'or are you just glad to see me ' stuff

You best just keep it to yourselves. Like they do it in the Army now.

Let's keep or rivers running straight and wholesome.

What you do on the shore is your business. What's 'done in Oklahoma stays in Oklahoma' is fine with me.

Just keep it way up on the shore. I'll park on the Texas side.

Now, just what do splake have to do with squirrels?

Don't be twisting my words around, mister. I can do that plenty good on my own.

Speaking of spaking...name that tune!

congrats on a good time although i believe that whatever company a man keeps in his lap is his bizniss.

Quick question on fishing the dam... Is it better to fly fish when water is high or low? I haven't fished it yet and considering burning some vacation time before end of year and trying it out.

Thanks in advance.

Big Baby

LOW

unless you like to churn and burn casts into fast water with your line working the rocks

For fly fishing, wait two ? hours after generating stops, then wade and or float / boat.

If you wade, wear felt, shuffle step (never lift your feet off the bottom ) and bring a few ways to cut stray mono and braid off your boots.

in other words your better off tubing lol...reminds of trying to wade out on that rocky point one time when the gates are shut off..i stepped into a hole that sent me in over my head