There are things that they can do, and it would be a vast improvement from what has been the norm.

True it's a fishing lake but what about the bank fishermen?

They could start by building decent fishing piers and maybe an enclosed one with a lighted fishing barge for starters.

When they built the original pier they seemed to have stuck it off out of the way as an after thought, and in the back end of a shallow cove to boot. Why not have one extening out from the bank that had a deep channel drop off, kind of like the area in front of the Island between the two launches for instance, or one of the points there close to the dam?

Also a marina with rental stalls, and boats and motors that are maintained, and how about a bait house with live bait, a tackle store, and maybe even a restaurant like they had in the early days where you could sit out on the patio overlooking the lake and eat one nice juicey hamburger fries that would hit the spot after a long morning of fishing.

How about cabins that you could rent for a few days or overnight? Maybe several screened in shelters for day use also a nice touch.

All these things cost money, and would drive up the entry fees for certain, but if someone wants to attract business and run it as one, they have to expect to spend money to make money.

For years, and I'm not alone, I've wondered what SARA did with all that money they collected because many years would go by without any improvements, and then when they did occur is was mainly out of necessity because things had deteriorated so badly.

It's a shame because they could have really done some good things out there, with proper management.

That's just my honest opinion, and I'll get down off my soap box now!

i went by and picked up an application and the new company is Thousand Trails , their address is 8590 u.s. hwy. 34 Granby , Co. 80446 . phone # is 970-887-1339. that's what it says on the bottom of the app. take it for what it's worth. google it and you'll be amazed

I think that is exactly what they have inmind for calaveras. They are a big company...why should they fool with a little dinky operation. I expect to see a lot of construction going on out there & then a big sign at the gate that says "for members only" check this website
Roger
http://www.ripoffreport.com/tours-excursions/thousand-trails/thousand-trails-ripoff-frisco-c49am.htm

if you really want to know whats going on , go to braunig , go to the right like your going to dead tree point you'll see a playground and behind the restrooms you'll see an rv hooked up to the restrooms. there's a car there with the thousand trailer logo on the door........................

yeah, but come on guys, we all know there is still PLENTY of reds in that lake for everyone else...i am not a guide and i catch alot of reds...seen schools so big it's amazing...it's not like there is a shortage of reds. I have no problem with them keeping legal fish, hell it's what they are there for. Put and take fishery.

+1 Absolutely! They are stocked there to catch.

you guys have been lucky on the not having to pay for a new day after midnight. fayette lake charges another day if you stay after midnight. of course they do not check every nite, sometimes you don't get the note on windshield until around 6am,so if you are gone before then you get by with a little leeway.

I mean why would someone take care of a a resource that makes them money that would be dumb. . I just think the guides should only be able to keep 1 red over 28 per person there not good to eat that big anyways and people would be happy catching bigger fish and possible lake record.. I mean with the 6-7 guides now trolling the lake looks more like a boat parade going on. The lake isnt that big .

Its about time a company that is in the business to make a profit take over the properties!! If you don't like the "new" rules then don't go... They have to start some where and they will make MORE rules to govern the property they now run!! If people can't follow the rules then they will pay the fines. There is a new sheriff in town and your just going to have to deal with the new rules!!

We live in a different world these days where everything is not going to be given to you without a price. Some one some where foots the bill. In the past CPS and SARA footed the bill... well now the people that use the park will foot the bill!! Get over it and just pay the fees if you use the parks!

Minimum wage offers are what I have heard.

...but....but....they get free camping according to the article what a joke

what gates are you talking about?

when in doubt...ask my main man will

cool thanks for the answer Will I never knew that.

a park full sign...what a great way to make money!!!! Im glad they will chose to let us in on there watch.

by the way it is raining and cold in san angelo, not very good for fishing.

Do you think CPS had the customer/fisherman's interests in mind when they drew up the contract ?
Roger

Thanks for the report Rob. He was not as forthcoming for me yesterday. You must have charm. I agree that it does seem like an effort to improve the lakes.

My bottom-line question:

"Is there any enforceable language in the contract which will require TT to give access to the public for 'some' bank fishing and use of the boat ramps without purchasing a TT membership."

I want to know what controls CPS has over TT so that we do not lose all control over what TT does to these lakes.

I made an official Public Records request yesterday for an electronic copy. I have not received a reply yet that they even received my request. Law says that I am due a prompt reply. I will check on it tomorrow. When it comes, I will put a link to it here.

TT objecting to the release of the TT/CPS contract to the public is not a good sign.
Roger