Thank you, sir!

As for a couple guides from Oklahoma, they do not like me fishing "THIER" water. As for the double pic, of me holding Josh's trout - Sorry. I was showing Josh how to correctly release a fish and he asked me to hold it up. whooped'd'doo. I forgot what pic that was about. I had 80 pix to go through before i posted and I didnt post them all. Next time Ill take a pen and paper and log everytime I take a pic when,where,how,why...ect. There are only a handfull of guides that take pictures and reports, and post them for everyone. Everyone and there dogs know there are time stamps on pictures. Do you really think over the last years I have not had someone try to call me out on issues like these? I dont cheat lie or steal. I have one job- FISHING GUIDE! So let me do my thing and make sure everyone has a great time with me, or use my posts and reports for your future trips. I dont see anyone else in LMF reporting, but see lots of people. It seems when I start catching lots of fish and some are not, the words try to fly around. If I see a big fish, I am going to cast to it! Im not there to catch stockers. I think 90% would agree that they would also cast to a fish that big anyday of the year. If the only time you had was a time of the year they were spawning, and work only allowed you to go at this time of year, I guarentee you, you would try to hook the monster! The fish gods placed them in the river to be caught. So there is no changing me on that. Dont hire me if you dont like the concept, but in my little world, im going for the big one always. So enough said on that.

We both caught tons of fish that day and did not take a pic of every fish. But I did go back later in the day after that Double pic and caught the same one. I do not want to take a pic of every fish due to my camera is to far away sometimes, and dont want to kill the fish. Expecially the bigger ones.

It seems to me every year I start a new thread (on any spiecies), there will always be someone tring to bash me. Im used to it now. I have theripists that text me, email me, and call me, before, I freak out and go postal on some of you. So thank you again shrinks! In this case, it is people from OK that dont appreciate me taking potential clients from them. I however, do not bash others out of respect for thier buisness. I am not a local guide here at the LMF, and I get absolutly no respect from the other guides on the LMF, obviously. -dont care either, But the thing about it is, I carry a fish guarentee and tell the client to let me know, at the end of the trip, if they had fun and learned anything....If not, Don't Pay! It has never happened one time in 8 years of guiding. I dont have an ego or anything, I just know how to fish dam good and share what I know how to do best. So apparently, I am doing my job correctly. My last client caught more fish than anyone on the river Thursday, that were around us, so they said. It was stained water and hard fishing. But I worked my buttt off to put him on fish and he said he learned more in the 1st 2 hours than he did from (Mr. *^%$#@^%&, a local guide there).


This forum is for reports, information, and bragging. So leave it at that and enjoy the pix and reports. Everyone has my phone number and email. If you have an issue, save yourself some time and get a hold of me personally and settle it that way. Dont destroy the threads. I had the same thing happen to my Sandbass thread, and it got erased totally, not locked. I had a lot of info on there i would love to see again or read up on. And thanks for not deleting the whole thread. As you can see it only takes one or two people to ruin it for everyone. Just keep it private if you have something to say to someone if you are going to be negitive. I have little kids that follow my posts. Just be respectfull please or I will tell on you. Xmas is coming, and know of 2 people getting coal and a broken rod from santa.

-------------Enjoy the pictures!

Tight Lines,

-Carey

Caught one of those Prickel i have been seeing swimmin around as well..... enjoy the pics!

Carey, did the pickerel come from the river?

Rex

yes. i saw some other posts on another forum of them catching them, so i went to target one. only about 6 inches long. first one, too.

<<<Just keep it private if you have something to say to someone if you are going to be negative. >>>

I agree with ya on that one for sure. I enjoy what you say about Broken Bow, and I have learned a few things. I really enjoy the pictures too.

prickel


nice lil' pike, I wonder what type it is, doesnt look to a chain pickerel (although I'm not 100% on that) maybe a redfin or grass ?
BretTxfishes or Fishlady where are you ?

I am the guy that Carey took out on LMF this past Thursday morning (Nov 12th). I've only been fly fishing for about a year or so. I've only fished the LMF and the Rio Pueblo in New Mexico. My first time to LMF was last Feb...I hired a local guide and basically learned nothing during that trip. That first trip i hooked up on 4 or 5 fish, but only landed one the entire day.

Totally different story with Carey. I have to say that I learned a great deal from him. Fishing was very slow on Thursday. The water was stained and no one was catching fish...based off the conversations we had with the other anglers on the river. Carey was able to put me on alot of fish and I had a great time. I asked him at the beginning of the day to mainly help me with my casting mechanics. Yes I wanted to catch fish of course, but I was most interested in becomming a better fly fisherman. By the end of the trip I was casting effortlessly. I feel much more confident on the water now. I would totally recommend Carey to anyone.

Carey

Thanks for clarifying your opinions on the previous posts and other issues. Now we can all understand it and form our own opinions.

Eric

Tarponfly, your website says that your only interest is to put your clients on fish. i have to wonder whether you have given either your effort or money to help the people who are improving, bit by bit, the river you use to make your living? some folks are just takers--i wonder where you fall? for example, most of your pictures show evening hole. did you contribute any time, effort or money when the improvements were done--or do you just suck up the benefits? have you contributed anything to the new lost creek that will be built after the end of the year--or to the repairs that will be done to spillway creek---or to efforts to clean the pipes at the re-reg dam, so that the river will support 3-4 more miles of fishable waters--well, on behalf of us who have worked to get these things done, i really hope you make a hell of a living fishing a river that you did not have a damn thing to do with.

This is an unacceptable personal attack. RRHYNE56

Gee Sandy, you make it sound like none of us should be allowed to fish the LMF.

So far, all of your posts on this site have been attacks on one person. Surely, you have something else to say about some other topic? Maybe start a new post about the LMF that talks about how you like to fish the LMF. We love fishing reports.

Rex

Everybody who goes to the LMF to fish contributes to the river, they do so from the purchase of a FISHING LICENSE and a TROUT STAMP. The proceeds from those go to the Oklahoma department of wildlife to stock and maintain that fishery, so any one who legally chooses to fish there contributes. Since he isnt an Oklahoma resident he pays more than normal for his licenses as well as bringing clients from out of state who also buy licenses at a higher price. You should grow up and keep all of your negative comments to yourself, you dont own the river and just because you help maintain the fishery doesn't give you any more of a right to fish it than anyone else. If you spent more time fishing than you do bad mouthing someone on a forum you might be as successful on the river as he is.

Josh- How much does he charge to fish... Have you ever hired him to fish, or have you ever seen him with a known paying client?

I mean seriously does this guy guide or is it all BS...

He charges $125 for a trip which is substantially less than most guides charge which is probably why he catches a lot of grief from them. I hired him for the sandbass run a while back and i have seen him with numerous paying clients. He is well known on this forum as a guide, check the rowlett creek sandbass run thread in the bankfishing section. He has his own guide website if he was all BS i dont think he would have a website. If you have any questions for give him a call/PM/email his number and website are in his first post.

Hey Carey, pissed that someone told you not to meet your clients in front of his shop then leave the car there?

That's classy man, low ball the guides who make a living there then use there property as a parking lot.

How come you only guide during major stocking?

Ever joined the LMFF?

That's great your such a great fly fishing guide...NOBODY who works in DFW FLYSHOPS has ever heard of you...I've never seen your card in a shop or talked to a shop rat that's fished with you. I've been to a lot of the area Fly Fishing events, going back years, never seen your face or heard you name. Wouldn't you want to promote yourself to the FF community.

And from a business perspective, killing fish every day, keeping multiple stringers from clients, and casting to spawners is a really poor business model for insuring long term financial stability.

"The more someone talks, the less they know what they're talking about" -Greentrout

If you guys have something to say why dont you just man up and call him?

All of this fighting over some ghey trout? And y'all think we are crazy for fishing for carp. Bass anglers take spawning bass all the time

I have been fishing Broken Bow since 1984, at least twice a year. I fish coastal, offshore, lakes, rivers, creeks and ponds. I pay for my fishing licenses- ALL of them, wherever I go and whatever state or country I'm in, plus gas, food & lodging. I love it when somebody puffs-up because their "married" to a particular piece of water. If you don't like the rules/laws, get them changed. Why attack somebody who is following the rules/laws. You guys should be going after the illegal anglers (size & limits) and the netters. Capitalism- if you suck at what you do and somebody does it better, you will lose business.

Not to mention the cabin rentals, park fees, meals at restaurants, gas from gas stations, supplies from markets etc, etc, etc that collect taxes to place back into the OK dept of wildlife etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc....man i got into a nice rhythm there. Much unlike my casting!

So he could hang with you? What in the hell has this got to do with anything? Its a problem because the way he does his thing is not the way you would do it? Get a life...

Ok folks, bring this back onto topic. We've already lost a couple, who's next?

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My work is guiding...other people make their living keeping up fisheries and restoring the environment, both are admirable livings.
In that spirit...if one where to follow the idea presumed above, in order to fish, anywhere, one would also have to be a part above restoring and keeping the fisheries and environment. So if you want to travel anywhere and fish you are not welcome if you have not done that? When would anyone be welcome to fish anywhere but where they live and if they make their living in the fisheries and environment in that community?
I make a point to respect any place I fish. In the LMF I rarely ever keep fish (10 fish or less in 4 years), always pick up random trash and hook packages from the bait chunkers, and I call the wardens when I see poaching going on. Without actually being a resident of the LMF it is hard to do more than this, although I do appreciate all the work that those in that community, and those in others, do beyond that. My appreciation does not mean that I would assume myself and every other person who does not live there and work on the river, welcome to fish there. There would be no such thing as fishing if such requirements where put on all of us.
I work year round to put clients on fish: trout, to crappie, to sandbass, back to crappie (yes, during the spawn), to striper, and back to trout. Occasionally, trips from each of the above even out of its prescribed season. I simply do not have room in that time to go to the LMF, and every other place I guide, and work on the fisheries and improve the environment. I am quite sure that no one else on this form can claim that they can either. Again, no one would be welcome to fish anywhere they were not actively involved in the in improving the fisheries and environment. It is an impossible standard that even the promoter of this post I doubt keeps, unless he only fishes in the LMF, or works in every environment he fishes.
This suggests that I, and everyone else on this form, is not welcome in the LMF because we are not up there year round pushing boulders and coddling fish. Guess we should all stay home...good luck with that, your community survives only because out of towners. The business in this state park would die and then the funding for the support and restoration of the fisheries and environment would follow. IT ALL FALLS DOWN...

GO LONGHORNS!

ummmmmm... Go Tarleton?

Weza going national for the first time in...??? good thing we have good kicker-he made a 64yard fieldgoal this afternoon. took us into double overtime!

For a history lesson:

-When I was 12, I lived in Ft. Myers, FL. The first time that I went to the flats with the fly rod, I caught a 30 lb Tarpon. After that, I was hooked on flyfishing, waiting for the arial jumps of fish on every cast after a hook-up. Awsome fish! If you do your research, you will find me in the Pine Island Paper. -Front Page on a couple occations. So yes, I have caught a Tarpon or 100 in my days. Again, if you have issues, my number is 469-528-0210. Dont post on here unless you have something to say on a non-negitive level. Till the next trip up there, -Tight lines

-Carey

owned...

I can't wait to go to BB so I can have my limit of fresh trout every day I'm there. Mmmm smoked trout. The bigger ones taste the best!

I've watched all 83 episodes of "my name is earl' ....


Man1: Randy, that new guy on the TFF that's been beating up on TarpnFly's done pissed a few people off, me included.

Man2: Earl I remember last spring you said that that TraponFly guy pissed you off, him catching all those fish in at Rowlett while you worked all day every day at the new Gas'N'Mino.

Man1: Yeah, I know Randy, but that was different, Tarpon was always posting all those pics of folks smiling and with full stringers while this new guy is just a new guy stirring up trouble.

Man2: Yeah, I guess your right, hey Earl, wanna go look in the toilet with me again, and discuss the best places for the first cast, Crabman just went thru, and everyone knows he's a noflusher, always leaves a pile of crossed logs.

Man1: Well no Randy, I kinda don't but I guess I might have to so's I can cross it off my list.

Man2: You're cool, Earl, I'll go get my new Scoobie Pole, Hey, you think, will I need a bobber ?

that same kicker kicked a 55 yarder to beat us



barely sneaking by A&M-Kingsville.... weak*



*congrats tho, ACU ran all over us yesterday.

Love that show!

GREAT JOB CAREY!!!!looking forward to tick off some okies with ya!!

Who said that about the parking lot?

'Spose it's time to chime in here, since I guess I probably have as much experience dealing with the continuing saga of the "elitist fly angler" vs. the person who doesn't much care what rig they're carrying today, or what they are wearing, as long as they're catchin' fish, and having a good time.

Although I was born in OK and grew up in Texas, the last 40 years of my life were spent in the Rocky Mountains. During that time I've fished every state from Canada to Mexico, from the Pacific to Texas. I carry all types of sticks, and frankly ain't partial to any one in particular. If the longrod is getting the job done, that's the ticket, but if it's tossin' cut bait for cats, I'm all over it.

I run what many refer to as an "elitist" fishing forum that has been through all this BS attacking those ya don't agree with, and pretty much narrowed things down to several dozen real good anglers who typically carry a variety of weapons. However, we do have a handful of the finest exclusive fly people on the planet who are members. Difference is these people are not judgmental. One guides the flats of Florida and looks a lot like Ted Nugent, while another is a lady guide in Utah/Idaho who sings rock and roll at night, and sounds just like Pat Benatar... to give you an idea.

Carey Thorn is also a member, and we're proud to have him! He fits right in. Does what it takes to produce, and leaves the spot pristine after he's gone. Does the best he can to help everybody around him catch fish, whether they are paying customers, or not. Yep, he keeps fish. Might oughta ask him where those fish go, before you condemn him.

Not even gonna tread on the fishing for "spawners" issue, since frankly I don't believe the LMF has shown the ability to produce a healthy procreating population of trout... nor do I believe it will. Very nice dream, but it ain't the Little Red.

Bottom line is that Carey Thorn does not harm the waters he fishes... he is a tremendous benefit to the outdoor industry, which needs all the help it can get right now.

This issue of confrontation between anglers of different styles extends across this great country, and I for one, would sure as h**l like to see it stop. TU, LMFF, and other similar organizations would be able to garner much stronger support if they ceased to attack those who could become allies... with a little mutual respect, communication, and maybe understanding.

...and yes, before someone says "oh yeah, but he's got a dog in this race", you are right on the bean. I built that website for Carey, and wouldn't have done it if I hadn't liked what I saw and heard while spending the day with him slamming Rowlett Creek! Yeah, he can be one arrogant sumbee, but can't we all who know a thing or two about bringin' Walter to shore!

Give 'em hell, Carey!