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#4116123 - 11/04/09 06:51 AM using spit to lube knots
mo-sin Offline
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Registered: 11/10/08
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Ran into a "know it all" angler here in the metroplex who argued w/ me and called me a retard for using spit to lube my knots. His point was that there is stomach acid in saliva that immediately breaks down the mono, flouro, or braid. I had my points too, and we almost ended up outside over it. Whats your take??
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#4116144 - 11/04/09 06:59 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: mo-sin]
buzzzfrog Offline
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Registered: 10/05/09
Posts: 1426
Loc: Lake Tyler
Im not a doctor but I have never heard such a thing i use a polimar knot and I use spit all the time an I hardly ever ever break off me personally would ignore was this guy drunk
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#4116149 - 11/04/09 07:01 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: buzzzfrog]
crappieman1985 Offline
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Loc: Crowley, TX
I don't have any stomach acid in my spit . . . don't know about the caveman though.
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#4116177 - 11/04/09 07:16 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: crappieman1985]
Fishin Machine Online   content
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Loc: WV
I spit on every knot that I have used for at least 20 years and I don't think it has hurt one bit.

I used to work for a guy at a clothing store who fished. This girl was taking pins out of some shirts or something and put a couple pins in her mouth and accidently had one get lodged in her throat.
Well this guy said Aww just tell her to swallow it and her stomach acids will dissolve it. I just looked him and said man she's not a fish.

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#4116183 - 11/04/09 07:19 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: mo-sin]
jawaba Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 82
Loc: Lake Fork
What did he suggest using???

I normally use spit but have stuck my line in the water on occasion (mainly to really get it wet - not to avoid my spit).

Would love to know if someone has figured out a different / better way of preserving the integrity of the line while tying a knot...
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#4116188 - 11/04/09 07:22 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: jawaba]
mo-sin Offline
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He said use your fish attractant spray or line conditioner
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#4116193 - 11/04/09 07:25 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: jawaba]
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I saw video with one of the pros Jason Quinn using KVD line conditioner on the knot before cinching down.

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#4116209 - 11/04/09 07:31 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Fishin Machine]
Shake n Bake Offline
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Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 399
Loc: Lufkin
Not a doctor or nuclear physicist but I don't think they would call it stomach acid if it was in your mouth. Also there are enzymes, not acid in your saliva that begin to break down your food to aid in swallowing and to better aid in the stomach acid to digest after you swallow. Ramble ramble. Anyway, you can't fix stupid and I say that because ignorance is lack of information. This guy sounds like he had plenty of information unfortunately it is wrong. My two cents.
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#4116247 - 11/04/09 07:43 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Shake n Bake]
CWCW Offline
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Registered: 04/14/08
Posts: 1499
Loc: Joshua, TX
Stomach acid is really called Gastric Acid. The most aboundant chemical in gastric acid is Hydrochloric acid. You have no hydrochloric acid (stomach acid) in your mouth or you would continuously have ulcers from the acid burning the tissues of your tongue and the inside of your mouth. In the stomach lining, a special lubricant is used to keep the acid from burning the sides of the stomach walls. There are week enzymes in your spit that start to break down the starches and sugars that you chew up when eating but nothing strong enough to act like an acid. The guy you talked to doesnt know what he is talking about.


And im not a doctor either but i am an Athletic trainer and had to take Anatomy and Physiology which this type of info is found in.


Edited by CWCW (11/04/09 07:44 AM)
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#4116253 - 11/04/09 07:45 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Shake n Bake]
361V Offline
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Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 1139
Loc: somervell county
An oil would be an even better lubricant but that would be messy and spit is always available. If you have acid in your silivia then you need to go to the doctor because you have acid reflux. The wonder of our bodies is your stomach acid stays where its suppose to..in your stomach in a mucus covered container that can handle the acid.(TMI?) Your friend is right(we are like bass) about that acid being able to dissolve a pin but I would be afraid of where the pin would end up before it dissolves. Yep, you cant stop stupid.
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#4116260 - 11/04/09 07:47 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Shake n Bake]
fatpratt96 Offline
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Registered: 03/10/08
Posts: 514
Loc: Las Colinas
Man! Thats gotta SUCK if you got acid all the way in your mouth! Thats a super bad case of indigestion! I can tie a knot using spit, fish with it all day, then put it away for a month and its still just as strong when I use it again. If that were the case, all our knots would be eatin away when we go to use em again.
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#4116310 - 11/04/09 08:05 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: fatpratt96]
JDB3 Offline
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Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 567
Loc: Flower Mound TEXAS
"RED NECK LOGIC" I have yet to have a styrofoam cup create a hole in it from my spit. I would think the line we use is alot tougher than a styrofoam cup.

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#4116371 - 11/04/09 08:22 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: JDB3]
lure buddy Offline
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Spit it up for me and never had my line melt loco_2. If that ever happens I am going to the doctor.
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#4116396 - 11/04/09 08:26 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: JDB3]
MTGMAN Offline
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Registered: 10/11/04
Posts: 789
Loc: Skeeter, TX
Your buddy reminds me of that guy in Mortal Kombat....you know, the one that spits acid smile
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#4116420 - 11/04/09 08:33 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: MTGMAN]
p3ripperfw Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
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Loc: Ft. Worth, TX
you should remind him that its just fishing....people make things way too complicated sometimes.....

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#4116424 - 11/04/09 08:34 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: lure buddy]
jafish Offline
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Registered: 10/02/09
Posts: 90
Real men use spit. However mothers spit will remove dirt ect. from a childs face i have seen it happen myself. Having said that do let any mother spit on your line.
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#4116450 - 11/04/09 08:42 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: jafish]
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#4116460 - 11/04/09 08:43 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: p3ripperfw]
jeepthing Offline
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Even if your spit had a little acid in it, it would get rinsed off immediately when you make your first cast right??? hmmm

Not that it does. Spit absolutely does not have any acid in it. That's why heartburn and acid reflux hurts so much. Your mouth and esophagus aren't made to contain that acid for any length of time. cheers
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#4116549 - 11/04/09 09:11 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: jeepthing]
ezbassin Offline
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Its a waste of time to argue with a stupid person. Just leave him with his delusions.

I am surprised that someone hasn't said to pee on it if you are worried about the spit damaging the line.


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#4116565 - 11/04/09 09:15 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: ezbassin]
Joefishin Offline
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Was the guy telling you this stuff this guy?

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#4116936 - 11/04/09 10:45 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Joefishin]
StephenPineau Offline
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Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 455
Loc: Arlington, TX
You do have enzymes in your saliva that immediately begin to break down food before you even swallow it. That is absolutely true.

Do these enzymes break down your line and threaten the integrity of your knot? Hardly.

I've always wet my knot with saliva and never experienced a breakage issue.

I don't think I've ever broken off a fish and thought "THOSE DAMN ENZYMES!!!".

Let that goon carry around his sippy cup of ultra-purified, filtered, distilled drinking water to wet his knot for everytime he ties on a lure. That would actually be kinda enjoyable to watch.
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#4117078 - 11/04/09 11:27 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: mo-sin]
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Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 17785
Loc: Kingwood TX
The guy was prolly an Algore lovin, tree huggin, liberal yankee democrat, cause he sure wasn't a good ole boy. Personally, I think the fish was attracted to my spit back when I dipped, cause I feel like I used to catch more fish when I dipped than I do now since April 4 2008 (the day of infamy, the day I last dipped).
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#4117098 - 11/04/09 11:34 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: mo-sin]
mr.tawakoni Offline
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Registered: 08/08/09
Posts: 88
spit on it!!

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#4117109 - 11/04/09 11:40 AM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: Joefishin]
gotta199 Offline
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Registered: 08/02/04
Posts: 2439
Loc: Tyler, TX
Originally Posted By: Joefishin
Was the guy telling you this stuff this guy?



HAHA! That's great!

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#4117452 - 11/04/09 01:23 PM Re: using spit to lube knots [Re: gotta199]
H20 Dawg Offline
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Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 932
Loc: Kansas
There ought to be a law for people like that. The law is that they have Non-Breeder tattoed on their forehead. thumb
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