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#4081493 - 10/25/09 09:40 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Jimmie Moreland]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/02/05
Posts: 1903
Loc: Texas
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USC now stands for "Useless, Shameless, Cheater" in Regards to Robby Rose!!!
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#4081497 - 10/25/09 09:41 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Jimmie Moreland]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 91
Loc: Dallas
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This stuff is really shocking! And very confusing?
I have a few questions for you fellow TFFers? after doing a little on line research, mostly on the rose web site. It seems that he has not been allowed to fish Bass Champs tournaments for 2 years? If this is true then why did other trails like BBT, BLT, CABA, BLT, and AC allow him to fish in there events? I thought that all the trails kept in touch about cheating and once your were banned you could not fish another trail?
Also from what i am reading i am confused on the polygraph? Did they find weights in the bass during the polygraph or after, or before? and is this some type of new harder to beat polygraph that only BLT is using?
I think it would be helpful if we could have an accurate report from somebody in the know on what actually happened? like a BLT official or Game Warden???? Or the form admins???
Official statement please!
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#4081512 - 10/25/09 09:48 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Tracker Tim]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 1608
Loc: Spring Branch, TX
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I believe he should be forgiven for what he has done. Not just this instance but even all previous instances. But, that does not mean we have to like him, have to associate with him or accept what he has done.
I also believe he should be severely punished for what he has done, and would suggest that it include a permanent loss of fishing privileges in TX, and everything he had at the tournament should be confiscated.
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#4081520 - 10/25/09 09:54 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 12/01/03
Posts: 6313
Loc: omotive!
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[quote=R_Manning][quote=Wanda] IMHO, .....I too dont think he woke up and decided this was the day he was going to cheat in a tournie for the first time....
this wasnt a "oooops" moment for Pose(r).... he premeditated and was confident he would pass the poly... hes done this before... look at his poker tournies... hes good there too- he has a poker face and used the good lords name to help deceive everyone.... Doesn't everyone carry a couple of those 16oz saltwater weights in their bass boat, you know, just in case the tarpon on Cedar Creek decide to 'hunker down' on the river channel ledges during post-front conditions? 
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#4081529 - 10/25/09 09:57 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: RB_BassMan]
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1076
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What happens in a case like this if he admits that he cheated in the Bass champs and other tournies from previous years? Do the tournament trails take legal action against him to get the winnings back? Or do the guys he's beat out by cheating (if he cheated in those events, because we don't know for sure) just get screwed?
It wouldn't be worth not ever being able to fish a tournament again just for a few thousand dollars... I couldn't imagine not being able to fish tournaments ever again, or having to look over my shoulder all the time.
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#4081532 - 10/25/09 09:58 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: fishmagnet]
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1076
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[quote=R_Manning][quote=Wanda] IMHO, .....I too dont think he woke up and decided this was the day he was going to cheat in a tournie for the first time....
this wasnt a "oooops" moment for Pose(r).... he premeditated and was confident he would pass the poly... hes done this before... look at his poker tournies... hes good there too- he has a poker face and used the good lords name to help deceive everyone.... Doesn't everyone carry a couple of those 16oz saltwater weights in their bass boat, you know, just in case the tarpon on Cedar Creek decide to 'hunker down' on the river channel ledges during post-front conditions? ROFL, its all that current... the red snapper are just too dang deep on that lake... too deep
Edited by Bullet20XrD (10/25/09 09:59 AM)
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#4081533 - 10/25/09 09:59 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Troyz]
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Angler
Registered: 04/29/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Dallas
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I believe he should go to prison for a long long time and never be able to fish anywhere ever again. This was not a mistake. This was not the first time. He has been cheating for years and every time he has cheated he has not just stolen from the second place person or team, he has stolen from everyone that received a check all the way down the line to the first person or team that finished out of the money. Fishing tournaments is not cheap and those of us that do it use the money that we win for our families and use the money to continue doing what we love. He has stolen from 100's of individuals, their wives and their kids. He is a thief and a liar and has taken pride in fooling the system and cheating all of us out of the opportunity for a fair tournament with a level playing field. You may say and want to think that this is the first time it happened. Because he is a thief and a cheating scumbag, I will take the opposite approach and assume that every tournament he has ever cashed a check in that he cheated and stole from everyone in that event and should be prosecuted as such. I hope they calculate all of his tournament winnings throughout his career and use that dollar amount as the amount that he has stolen and prosecute him to the fullest extent possible.
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#4081539 - 10/25/09 10:03 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Bullet20XrD]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 9176
Loc: NE Tex
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Prove he cheated in those other tournaments and you may have a case. This one time proves one time.
I'd like some facts for sure.
Was he arrested? cuffed and stuffed as reported?
How was that exact weight known that was in the bass? Did the fish spit it up after being pulled from the tank due to laying funny on the bottom?
When are charges going to be filed?
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#4081564 - 10/25/09 10:15 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Hook'emUTbass]
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Angler
Registered: 04/29/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Dallas
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Like I said, some of you will take a lighter approach......I choose to go the other direction and hope the authorities do as well. He has stolen from me and my family and my friends and their families. I have no soft spot for a liar, a thief and a cheater.
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#4081573 - 10/25/09 10:20 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: chunk&wind]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/10/02
Posts: 1193
Loc: North Tx, USA
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He is a thief and a liar and has taken pride in fooling the system and cheating all of us.... Agree 100%. And made it worse by thumping his bible all along the way. Add hypocrisy to the list. Wow.... crazy.
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#4081575 - 10/25/09 10:22 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: fish4bass]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 3960
Loc: Azle, TX
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funny, he found time to post on his website that he had made a bad decision yesterday....
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#4081579 - 10/25/09 10:24 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: fish4bass]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 7165
Loc: Grand Prairie
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He is a thief and a liar and has taken pride in fooling the system and cheating all of us.... Agree 100%. And made it worse by thumping his bible all along the way. Add hypocrisy to the list. Wow.... crazy. What about false prophet? That does make it harder to swallow when a guy uses religion to help cover up wrong doings.
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#4081584 - 10/25/09 10:25 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Hook'emUTbass]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 06/26/02
Posts: 1600
Loc: Lewisville/Highland Village
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So sad and terribly maddening. Rumors have been around for some time about his misdoings. I don't believe you can show up at tournaments like he did and win and place high in almost every event. He was always unbeatable on Lewisville and he even won that BBT tourney a short while back. You simply can't be that good - someone is always going to give you a run at the top but yet he won most of those by such wide margins that he only created the suspicions upon himself.
I can't believe that this is his first fish-stuffing rodeo and shame on you for playing the holy card. I'm afraid this goes on more than we realize and I hope they make an example out of him. I believe tournament circuits should do more to prevent this kind of stuff.
I too would like to know the details surrounding how they determined the fish might have been tampered with. And hats off to the tournament officials for doing something about it.
Any apology he can give now would just be BS in my opinion. One sentence on his website about utilizing poor judgement is carp. I used poor judgement one time when I peed into the wind on the front of my boat. But I've never cheated, lied or stole to enrich myself.
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#4081595 - 10/25/09 10:28 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: fish4bass]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 3194
Loc: Island of Jeff (Humble)
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Never being able to show up at a tournament again or show his face in the fishing community again. He risked alot. He's done tournament fishing. I would suspect not only in Texas but anywhere. This news is going to get out across the US. It's going to effect his family, his business, his life. That's the smallest punishment he will get even if he does not get prosecuted.
He won alot of money over the years. Now everyone, even those who supported him, have to ask how much was legit and how much wasn't.
Greed. It's a ugly thing. We see it on the news every day in increasing amounts.
Edited by Fishspanker (10/25/09 10:32 AM)
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#4081606 - 10/25/09 10:34 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Bullet20XrD]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 12/14/03
Posts: 9666
Loc: Grand Prairie, Tx
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What happens in a case like this if he admits that he cheated in the Bass champs and other tournies from previous years? Do the tournament trails take legal action against him to get the winnings back? Or do the guys he's beat out by cheating (if he cheated in those events, because we don't know for sure) just get screwed?
It wouldn't be worth not ever being able to fish a tournament again just for a few thousand dollars... I couldn't imagine not being able to fish tournaments ever again, or having to look over my shoulder all the time.
I'm guessing here and its up to Robby and the different circuits but for this type of cheating I am guessing he is done. Many people get dq'ed for technical cheating like pushing a boat into a creek or not having their life jacket hooked up, but for intentionally cheating I'm guessing most tournament anglers would refuse to participate if they knew Robby was being allowed to fish.
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#4081607 - 10/25/09 10:34 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Allison1]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 1497
Loc: southlake
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Sorry to see this happen. But it does happen. From the smallest infarction, starting a big motor before your jacket is zipped up, to just outright knowing you are cheating. There has been speculation before ,,its water under the bridge,,He wont be taking our monies any more,,Cast no stone till you look in the mirror,, we all make mistakes,,,
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#4081609 - 10/25/09 10:36 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fishspanker]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
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i am pretty sure you get DQ'd for "blatant" cheating, that you are done nationwide in tourney fishing. at least, i would hope so.
i fear his business will suffer, but not be a total loss. I feel bad for his wife and children. to put them through all this nonsense, is overwhelming. I cant imagine how the wife feels, as I dont think the children fully understand what has happened.
by "blatant"- i mean- intentionally weighting or staking fish to win monies. I dont mean- lifejacket type stuff, etc.
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#4081610 - 10/25/09 10:37 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fishspanker]
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 191
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Allison You say your skeptical from critics whose only proof is one instance. LOL give me a break. It only takes one.
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#4081617 - 10/25/09 10:40 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: kingdad101]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
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I see some of his "wins" were Team events.Did he always fish alone or did he have a pardner in some of these "wins"..
he did for awhile, but they seperated ways pretty quickly. maybe he saw something he did not like?
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