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#4083432 - 10/25/09 08:58 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Bigron119]
J.P. Greeson Offline
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Registered: 10/23/00
Posts: 10123
Loc: Scroggins, TX
Originally Posted By: Bigron119
I am concerned that like all good things, this could lead to state restrictions or controls on tournaments. Fish/Animal lovers don't need any ammo to start an ANTI-Tournament movement. If they can convince "people" that there is no way to effectively police tournament fishing then WE (tournament anglers) are out of luck. With all this bad publicity AND people wanting to take actions into their own hands then we run the risk of ruining our favorite pastime.
Also, what I was hoping is that since most of us are Adults then we should act like adults. This whole affair AND any posts we say is possible evidence that can be used against us.
It's hard to bring up tournament angling to a national acceptable-mainstream program when people see what happened at this tournament. Then if we "pile on" with amateur comments we give them (Non-Fishing Media) evidence that we are nothing but "Dumb Country Hicks!" It's always one bad apple that messes things up and then the rest of us have to work double hard to try and clean up the impressions for the tournament system AND our sponsors.


I think most of the responses have been fairly calm and intelligent considering the circumstances.
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#4083434 - 10/25/09 08:59 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: a.brooks]
Zach Caudle Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 11/07/08
Posts: 527
Loc: LA
They shouldnt ever let him fish another competitive event. That would be worse than anything but jail time for me. He would have to think about his stupid decision every time he saw a boat or a lake.

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#4083440 - 10/25/09 09:00 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: J.P. Greeson]
JIM SR. Offline
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Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 3586
Loc: N.Richland Hills
is this over yet,..?

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#4083442 - 10/25/09 09:00 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Zach Caudle]
RedRanger Offline
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Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 13996
Loc: Frisco, Texas
Bud Light Trail News Release (10-25-2009)

USA Bass Trails officials, who manage and own the Bud Light Trail (BLT) bass fishing tournament program, would like to release a statement regarding the disqualification of one of the contestants from the Lake Ray Hubbard Big Bass Tournament held on October 24, 2009. Statements have been withheld until now in order to ensure all the facts were obtained and the information was given to the proper law enforcement authorities.

During an hourly weigh in at the BLT Ray Hubbard Big Bass Tournament an angler brought a large fish to the weigh in check point. The fish was transferred from the weigh bag containing the fish to the official weigh bag. The BLT Tournament Director, after weighing the fish, asked that the fish be put in a holding tank behind the weigh in stage. This fish would have been the largest fish of the hour. After the hourly weigh in was completed the angler was asked to take a polygraph. This is required for all participants who catch the biggest bass of the hour. During inspection of the fish, by the fish handler and the tournament director, irregularities were discovered. A decision was made by tournament officials to interrupt the polygraph and have the angler and polygraph examiner witness an inspection of the bass. The angler was asked to remove the contents in the stomach of the bass or the contents would be inspected by BLT officials by whatever means possible. The angler chose to remove the contents and a lead weight was removed from inside the fish and handed to a tournament official. The angler then apologized to all who witnessed the removal of the lead weight. He was notified by the tournament director that he was disqualified. No objection or explanation was given by the angler as he left the weigh in location. The fish and lead weight were then reweighed separately and pictures were taken. The Texas Game Wardens were immediately notified. Statements were given by tournament officials and all evidence was given to the Texas Game Wardens.

All of us involved with the BLT program are saddened by this situation and the impact it may have on the angler, his family and friends. The BLT officials will cooperate with the legal authorities as they proceed with the evidence provided to the Game Wardens. The BLT officials, speaking both as anglers and tournament providers, want our anglers and sponsors to know that we will do our best to provide a fair and honest tournament event. We wish to thank all the anglers who have fished with us this year and hope that you will continue to do so.

Thank you,
USA Bass Trails/Bud Light Trail Officials

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#4083454 - 10/25/09 09:02 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: a.brooks]
BoomBoom Offline
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Registered: 01/31/07
Posts: 1693
Loc: The Woodlands, Tx
A couple of questions. If so many people had an idea he was cheating for a long time, why didn't anyone follow him around in the tourneys he fished alone? Obviously, if you are fishing the tournament you can't, but you have a friend who isnt fishing follow him.
Didnt he win or place high in some team tournamnents too? What about his partners?
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#4083466 - 10/25/09 09:04 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: BoomBoom]
cow1 Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 122
People chill out. he is over. If your mad remember His Life is Ruined. Remember that.

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#4083470 - 10/25/09 09:05 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
sore abs Offline
Angler

Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 252
Loc: Rockwall / Dallas, Tx
Never seen Red Ranger post so much since 2004......dude is on a roll

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#4083475 - 10/25/09 09:06 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: cow1]
csnowden Offline
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Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 234
Loc: Lewisville, TX
I came up with a couple of bible verses for him to change his signature tag to. Any votes for which one he should use?


Jeremiah 9:5, "And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity."

Jonah 2:8, "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy."

Zechariah 13:3, "...Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: "

1 Timothy 4:2, "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"

1 John 2:4, "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

1 John 4:20, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

Revelation 21:8, "…and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:"

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#4083477 - 10/25/09 09:06 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: BoomBoom]
USA-1 Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 4654
Loc: Tarrant County, Texas
what happened to his boat afterwards? anybody know if his boat was checked to see what sort of extra tanks or ??? they could find.
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#4083480 - 10/25/09 09:07 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: mrouse]
westtexgolfer Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 1723
Loc: Midland, TX




this is a bad deal although I dont know the guy this is a really dumb move on his part and why would you do this... ive only fished mabye 10 tournaments and im only 20 but I dont take them seriously like its the lottery... I just fish what I catch I weigh its not that big of a deal I guess some people just take things way to seriously...


Edited by coryp (10/25/09 09:10 PM)
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#4083481 - 10/25/09 09:07 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: J.P. Greeson]
rangerb Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 882
Loc: EastTexas
I think all these comments are a deterrant to anyone who reads them who might ever briefly consider cheating and are worthwhile and I for one appreciate JP not closing it.

Also great job by the Bud Light trail for catching a cheater and for making the details public on this forum. Personally this would make me want to fishing their tournaments.


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#4083483 - 10/25/09 09:08 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: cow1]
Z520 Cranker Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 10/02/05
Posts: 1903
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: cow1
People chill out. he is over. If your mad remember His Life is Ruined. Remember that.


So when a crime is commited, we need to think about the person who committed the crime rather than the ones effected in his path?? I have no pity whatsoever for that man and I hope they throw the book at him. You made the bed, lie in it.

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#4083487 - 10/25/09 09:08 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: sore abs]
95-Ranger Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?
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#4083491 - 10/25/09 09:09 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Z520 Cranker]
cow1 Offline
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Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 122
yea but YOu dont know if he cheated in any other tournament do you??? Do you??

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#4083493 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: 95-Ranger]
crankin'_dave Offline
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Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 16346
Loc: In a glass case of emotion
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?


That's what I've been tryin to figure out.
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#4083494 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: 95-Ranger]
Tritonman Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 44348
Loc: Southlake,TX
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?
I wondered the same thing. Maybe they asked the angler to remove it, as he was familiar with the process? shocked
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#4083496 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: BoomBoom]
baskat Offline
Angler

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 381
He had a partner for Basschamps for a while. Couple of years ago at Lewisville the partner couldn't pass the polygraph. Robby took the test and passed. Shortly thereafter, they were no longer partners. I actually considered having a PI or someone else follow him and probably would have done it if he had continued to fish Basschamps. Once champs started putting an observer in the his boat, it became a mute point.

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#4083497 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Tritonman]
crankin'_dave Offline
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Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 16346
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Originally Posted By: Tritonman
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?
I wondered the same thing. Maybe they asked the angler to remove it, as he was familiar with the process? shocked


zing!
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#4083502 - 10/25/09 09:11 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: 95-Ranger]
Texas Smoke Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 2007
Loc: Sugar Land
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?

All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out.

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#4083506 - 10/25/09 09:12 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
Tritonman Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 44348
Loc: Southlake,TX
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?

All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out.
I've never had to try
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#4083508 - 10/25/09 09:12 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Tritonman]
95-Ranger Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
Originally Posted By: Tritonman
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?
I wondered the same thing. Maybe they asked the angler to remove it, as he was familiar with the process? shocked


He did remove it. According to the BLT news release. I have heard that if you rub in the fishes mouth(not sure where) that they will regurgitate whatever is in there stomach.
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#4083513 - 10/25/09 09:13 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
anthonyhicks101 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 3289
Loc: Princeton, TX
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
Originally Posted By: Rockwall_Ranger
Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?

All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out.

WOW....you seem to say that with authority. popcorn
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#4083515 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: cow1]
HasBen Offline
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Registered: 06/12/03
Posts: 10476
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: cow1
yea but YOu dont know if he cheated in any other tournament do you??? Do you??


Kinda like the duck deal. You know, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it is more than likely a duck.
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#4083518 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: anthonyhicks101]
Kat-man-do Offline
TFF Team Angler

Registered: 07/16/01
Posts: 3493
Loc: Round Rock, Texas USA
Isn't that what they call "drop shot" as in "drop that shot down that sucker's pie hole"?
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#4083520 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: anthonyhicks101]
95-Ranger Offline
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Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
LOL...
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