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#4083432 - 10/25/09 08:58 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Bigron119]
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Registered: 10/23/00
Posts: 10123
Loc: Scroggins, TX
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I am concerned that like all good things, this could lead to state restrictions or controls on tournaments. Fish/Animal lovers don't need any ammo to start an ANTI-Tournament movement. If they can convince "people" that there is no way to effectively police tournament fishing then WE (tournament anglers) are out of luck. With all this bad publicity AND people wanting to take actions into their own hands then we run the risk of ruining our favorite pastime. Also, what I was hoping is that since most of us are Adults then we should act like adults. This whole affair AND any posts we say is possible evidence that can be used against us. It's hard to bring up tournament angling to a national acceptable-mainstream program when people see what happened at this tournament. Then if we "pile on" with amateur comments we give them (Non-Fishing Media) evidence that we are nothing but "Dumb Country Hicks!" It's always one bad apple that messes things up and then the rest of us have to work double hard to try and clean up the impressions for the tournament system AND our sponsors. I think most of the responses have been fairly calm and intelligent considering the circumstances.
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#4083440 - 10/25/09 09:00 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 3586
Loc: N.Richland Hills
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#4083442 - 10/25/09 09:00 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Zach Caudle]
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burro desagradable
Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 13996
Loc: Frisco, Texas
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Bud Light Trail News Release (10-25-2009)
USA Bass Trails officials, who manage and own the Bud Light Trail (BLT) bass fishing tournament program, would like to release a statement regarding the disqualification of one of the contestants from the Lake Ray Hubbard Big Bass Tournament held on October 24, 2009. Statements have been withheld until now in order to ensure all the facts were obtained and the information was given to the proper law enforcement authorities.
During an hourly weigh in at the BLT Ray Hubbard Big Bass Tournament an angler brought a large fish to the weigh in check point. The fish was transferred from the weigh bag containing the fish to the official weigh bag. The BLT Tournament Director, after weighing the fish, asked that the fish be put in a holding tank behind the weigh in stage. This fish would have been the largest fish of the hour. After the hourly weigh in was completed the angler was asked to take a polygraph. This is required for all participants who catch the biggest bass of the hour. During inspection of the fish, by the fish handler and the tournament director, irregularities were discovered. A decision was made by tournament officials to interrupt the polygraph and have the angler and polygraph examiner witness an inspection of the bass. The angler was asked to remove the contents in the stomach of the bass or the contents would be inspected by BLT officials by whatever means possible. The angler chose to remove the contents and a lead weight was removed from inside the fish and handed to a tournament official. The angler then apologized to all who witnessed the removal of the lead weight. He was notified by the tournament director that he was disqualified. No objection or explanation was given by the angler as he left the weigh in location. The fish and lead weight were then reweighed separately and pictures were taken. The Texas Game Wardens were immediately notified. Statements were given by tournament officials and all evidence was given to the Texas Game Wardens.
All of us involved with the BLT program are saddened by this situation and the impact it may have on the angler, his family and friends. The BLT officials will cooperate with the legal authorities as they proceed with the evidence provided to the Game Wardens. The BLT officials, speaking both as anglers and tournament providers, want our anglers and sponsors to know that we will do our best to provide a fair and honest tournament event. We wish to thank all the anglers who have fished with us this year and hope that you will continue to do so.
Thank you, USA Bass Trails/Bud Light Trail Officials
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#4083466 - 10/25/09 09:04 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: BoomBoom]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 122
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People chill out. he is over. If your mad remember His Life is Ruined. Remember that.
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#4083470 - 10/25/09 09:05 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: JohnLM]
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Angler
Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 252
Loc: Rockwall / Dallas, Tx
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Never seen Red Ranger post so much since 2004......dude is on a roll
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#4083475 - 10/25/09 09:06 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: cow1]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 234
Loc: Lewisville, TX
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I came up with a couple of bible verses for him to change his signature tag to. Any votes for which one he should use?
Jeremiah 9:5, "And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity."
Jonah 2:8, "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy."
Zechariah 13:3, "...Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: "
1 Timothy 4:2, "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"
1 John 2:4, "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
1 John 4:20, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"
Revelation 21:8, "…and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:"
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#4083477 - 10/25/09 09:06 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: BoomBoom]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 4654
Loc: Tarrant County, Texas
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what happened to his boat afterwards? anybody know if his boat was checked to see what sort of extra tanks or ??? they could find.
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#4083480 - 10/25/09 09:07 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: mrouse]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 1723
Loc: Midland, TX
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this is a bad deal although I dont know the guy this is a really dumb move on his part and why would you do this... ive only fished mabye 10 tournaments and im only 20 but I dont take them seriously like its the lottery... I just fish what I catch I weigh its not that big of a deal I guess some people just take things way to seriously...
Edited by coryp (10/25/09 09:10 PM)
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#4083481 - 10/25/09 09:07 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 882
Loc: EastTexas
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I think all these comments are a deterrant to anyone who reads them who might ever briefly consider cheating and are worthwhile and I for one appreciate JP not closing it.
Also great job by the Bud Light trail for catching a cheater and for making the details public on this forum. Personally this would make me want to fishing their tournaments.
Edited by rangerb (10/25/09 09:10 PM)
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#4083483 - 10/25/09 09:08 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: cow1]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/02/05
Posts: 1903
Loc: Texas
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People chill out. he is over. If your mad remember His Life is Ruined. Remember that. So when a crime is commited, we need to think about the person who committed the crime rather than the ones effected in his path?? I have no pity whatsoever for that man and I hope they throw the book at him. You made the bed, lie in it.
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#4083487 - 10/25/09 09:08 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: sore abs]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ?
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#4083491 - 10/25/09 09:09 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Z520 Cranker]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 122
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yea but YOu dont know if he cheated in any other tournament do you??? Do you??
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#4083493 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: 95-Ranger]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 16346
Loc: In a glass case of emotion
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? That's what I've been tryin to figure out.
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#4083497 - 10/25/09 09:10 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Tritonman]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 16346
Loc: In a glass case of emotion
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? I wondered the same thing. Maybe they asked the angler to remove it, as he was familiar with the process? zing!
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#4083502 - 10/25/09 09:11 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: 95-Ranger]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 2007
Loc: Sugar Land
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out.
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#4083506 - 10/25/09 09:12 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Texas Smoke]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 44348
Loc: Southlake,TX
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out. I've never had to try
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#4083508 - 10/25/09 09:12 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Tritonman]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? I wondered the same thing. Maybe they asked the angler to remove it, as he was familiar with the process? He did remove it. According to the BLT news release. I have heard that if you rub in the fishes mouth(not sure where) that they will regurgitate whatever is in there stomach.
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#4083513 - 10/25/09 09:13 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Texas Smoke]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 3289
Loc: Princeton, TX
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Pardon my ignorance; But, I wonder how they got the weight out of the fish without cutting or killing it ? Does anyone know if the fish was released ? All you do is squeeze towards the back of the belly with your hand and then move it towards the fish's mouth. It will come out. WOW....you seem to say that with authority. 
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#4083515 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: cow1]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 06/12/03
Posts: 10476
Loc: Texas
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yea but YOu dont know if he cheated in any other tournament do you??? Do you?? Kinda like the duck deal. You know, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it is more than likely a duck.
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#4083520 - 10/25/09 09:14 PM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: anthonyhicks101]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
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