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#4081623 - 10/25/09 10:42 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Bruce's Guide Service]
Tony_Wornick Offline
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Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 819
Loc: North Texas
Originally Posted By: Bruces Guide Service
Cast no stone till you look in the mirror,, we all make mistakes,,,


This was no mistake. He knew what he was doing and for this I hope he is punished to the highest degree.
It is funny that the few times I've seen him on Bass Champs TV, when a camera is in the boat, he hardly catches a fish.
We work too hard to have a cheater just come in and reap the benefits.
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#4081627 - 10/25/09 10:43 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: mark111]
Jman Offline
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"We all make mistakes."

This was no mistake - it was blatant. It is not like he was speeding in a no wake zone.

And there is no water under the bridge on this. He has now created a landslide of controversy around any tournament he has ever participated in. And rightfully so.

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#4081628 - 10/25/09 10:43 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Tony_Wornick]
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 3960
Loc: Azle, TX
Originally Posted By: tritontony
Originally Posted By: Bruces Guide Service
Cast no stone till you look in the mirror,, we all make mistakes,,,


This was no mistake. He knew what he was doing and for this I hope he is punished to the highest degree.
It is funny that the few times I've seen him on Bass Champs TV, when a camera is in the boat, he hardly catches a fish.
We work too hard to have a cheater just come in and reap the benefits.


funny you say that... in one of the championships on lewisville, they were with him on Day 2..... needless to say he caught a few dinks on day 2!

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#4081630 - 10/25/09 10:44 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: X-rayed Fish]
Tony_Wornick Offline
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Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 819
Loc: North Texas
Originally Posted By: R_Manning
Originally Posted By: kingdad101

I see some of his "wins" were Team events.Did he always fish alone or did he have a pardner in some of these "wins"..
he did for awhile, but they seperated ways pretty quickly. maybe he saw something he did not like?


Like honesty?
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#4081633 - 10/25/09 10:45 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: X-rayed Fish]
Darryl Roach Offline
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Registered: 11/20/05
Posts: 3904
Loc: Lake Worth, TX
I just heard that the fish he was going to weigh in was a Lake Fork Fish, wich was in the slot. Not sure how true this is but nothing surprises me now

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#4081648 - 10/25/09 10:49 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: X-rayed Fish]
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Registered: 02/22/08
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Loc: Stephenville, TX
This is absolutely mind blowing and an extremely sad day for bass fishing. My prayers go out to his family for the his mistakes and the fact that they will have to suffer for his wrong doings. Robby has had to learn a lesson that he will never recover from in the sport of bass fishing!
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#4081663 - 10/25/09 10:55 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: basspromaster]
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I have heard rumors that people have brought fish from Fork and released them in Ray Hubbard..
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#4081670 - 10/25/09 10:57 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
JohnLM Offline
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Registered: 11/11/05
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Loc: Dallas,Texas
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.

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#4081671 - 10/25/09 10:58 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: basspromaster]
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I never knew him or met him but, his faith should not be questioned we all make mistakes, we ALL SIN. I'm not sticking up for his actions what he did was wrong and trust me if he loved fishing tournaments as much as I do, by not being able to fish them again would be punishment enough for me, thats my whole life. I knew guys who got caught cheating and I remember how made it made me feel at the time and still till this day, I remember all the tour they won and all the times I got beat by them, so I understand some of ya'lls anger. Remember it will all take care of itself.
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#4081675 - 10/25/09 10:59 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: 95-Ranger]
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Registered: 10/02/05
Posts: 1903
Loc: Texas
I do feel sorry for his wife and kids. I am sure they thought he was just that good!!

They will ultimately have to pay for his actions. It is just a sad deal that one scumbag effects so many people in so many ways.

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#4081684 - 10/25/09 11:06 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Todd Castledine]
chunk&wind Offline
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Registered: 04/29/04
Posts: 316
Loc: Dallas
If the sport of tournament fishing meant to him the same that it means to most of us, he would not tarnish the sportsmanship and competition of bass fishing by lying, cheating and stealing. Tournament fishing meant nothing to him.....it was just a platform that he used to make money from all of us honest tournament anglers.

If he had broken into your home and most of your friends homes and stolen money or valuables from you, would you feel different or would you still think that he made a "mistake". He is a crook! He is a thief! He is a cheat! He is no different than a common thug who robs people for personal gain!!!!! What makes it worse is that he has done so in a sport where honor, trust and sportsmanship are the foundation of what we do in competitive bass fishing.

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#4081690 - 10/25/09 11:08 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
Texas Smoke Offline
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Posts: 2007
Loc: Sugar Land
Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.

Huh ???

Wrong kind of language ???

I asked a simple question. What's wrong with that ?


Dude, Bass tournaments aren't some freakin' sewing circle, especially when there is $20,000 - $55,000 involved. Make no mistake about it, there are folks out there that would love to beat the hell out of him, just like they would if some thug broke into their house and stole their TV. To think otherwise is naive.


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#4081695 - 10/25/09 11:09 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
U GOT IT Offline
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First, I would like to thank the forum administrators for letting this topic continue. I put up a post last night that was quickly taken down. This news needs to spread like fire and everyone needs to know that the fishing industry takes this kind of behavior seriously! This needs to be an example to tournament fisherman as well as our future generation of fisherman! He has stolen from tournament circuits and fellow tournament competitors. He has used the Lord's name in vain. I weighed in at the same time as he did yesterday and he was acting very funny. I asked him several questions like how big is that fish, have you been sand bagging that fish for a few hours and how did you catch it. He never answered any of my questions. I haven't seen Robbie for several years and I didn't even know it was him until he weighed in. I then thought, wow, that was Robbie. He was kind of rude. hmmm. When I really sit down and think about what went into his plans to win this tournament or "PERHAPS" previous tournaments, it makes me sick to think that he could do that and then stand around with those he cheated and act like a friend. Then to get on stage and talk about his faith. Wow, we really need to pray for this guy! I can not stand those that cheat and those that steal. He will have to live with this the rest of his life!

On a different note, those in the market for a used tournament bass boat need to keep your eyes open. I hear there's going to be a smokin' deal on a Z-9 with rods, reels, tackle and a set of 1 lb. sinkers!! lol

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#4081698 - 10/25/09 11:12 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
mark111 Offline
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 191
Can someone know knows the facts please post up. I know of you all were at the weigh in. Thanks.

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#4081699 - 10/25/09 11:12 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Scott A.]
JohnLM Offline
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Registered: 11/11/05
Posts: 1619
Loc: Dallas,Texas
Originally Posted By: Scott A.
Heck I was convinced he was that GOOD and BLESSED!! We still are to forgive him no matter what.


+1

this is just a game we play, and our humanity is far greater then what has happened here. It makes me sad to hear the name calling and threats. This is a bad thing for our community and I hope he can find it himself to find the right path again.

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#4081704 - 10/25/09 11:14 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: U GOT IT]
U GOT IT Offline
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Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 73
Loc: RICHARDSON
So do you think he's going to write a book and his scandal?? Seriously, everyone wants to know his secrets, right? It might be a best seller topping Mike Iaconelli's, Fishing on the Edge!lol For every book sold, $5.00 will go into a fund to pay back his "tournament competitors" that he beat.


Edited by U GOT IT (10/25/09 11:15 AM)

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#4081707 - 10/25/09 11:14 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
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Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.


There are a lot of people who are understandably angry and an opportunity to vent their frustrations is helpful, but please keeps the comments within TFF guidelines.





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#4081710 - 10/25/09 11:16 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1076
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.

Huh ???

Wrong kind of language ???

I asked a simple question. What's wrong with that ?


Dude, Bass tournaments aren't some freakin' sewing circle, especially when there is $20,000 - $55,000 involved. Make no mistake about it, there are folks out there that would love to beat the hell out of him, just like they would if some thug broke into their house and stole their TV. To think otherwise is naive.



I agree, its only worse because it came from a fellow competitor. I read posts on here all the time about people getting stiff stolen out of their boat when at a tourney or at the hotel and everyone gets in a big ruckus about it, "we're going to find these guys etc...". There is no difference in my opinion. Stealing is stealing.

Whether it was one time (which I don't believe either) makes no difference, because if he hadn't gotten caught it would have continued.

All tournament cheaters should be made an example of and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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#4081711 - 10/25/09 11:16 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
JohnLM Offline
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Registered: 11/11/05
Posts: 1619
Loc: Dallas,Texas
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.

Huh ???

Wrong kind of language ???

I asked a simple question. What's wrong with that ?


Dude, Bass tournaments aren't some freakin' sewing circle, especially when there is $20,000 - $55,000 involved. Make no mistake about it, there are folks out there that would love to beat the hell out of him, just like they would if some thug broke into their house and stole their TV. To think otherwise is naive.


It is the fact you are calling for it, or waiting for it to happen. I think that kind of language is not the correct approach is all. I am not God, and therefore do not find itmy place to call for a punishment like that.

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#4081715 - 10/25/09 11:18 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: J.P. Greeson]
kingdad101 Online   content
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Registered: 10/24/05
Posts: 16325
Loc: W.F. Texas
I saw on his BIO that he played world class poker..takes nerves of steel to do that..just wondering if that has anything to do with passing a poly..?? not accusing, just wondering..

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#4081716 - 10/25/09 11:19 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
mark111 Offline
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 191
Somebody that was there please explain what transp
ired at the weigh in.

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#4081720 - 10/25/09 11:20 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: kingdad101]
jcarring99 Offline
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Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 7165
Loc: Grand Prairie
There are certain personality types that can pass lie detector tests. Pathological liars almost always pass the test.

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#4081724 - 10/25/09 11:22 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Todd Castledine]
fish4bass Offline
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Registered: 11/10/02
Posts: 1193
Loc: North Tx, USA
Originally Posted By: Todd Castledine
I never knew him or met him but, his faith should not be questioned we all make mistakes, we ALL SIN.


May be... Faith means different things to different people. What you do when nobody is looking defines your character. I think it is safe to question his character at this point. Sorry to say... I am usually suspicious of anybody wearing their faith on their sleeve. Makes me wonder what they are trying to compensate for.

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#4081727 - 10/25/09 11:24 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: JohnLM]
Texas Smoke Offline
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Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 2007
Loc: Sugar Land
Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
Originally Posted By: JohnLM
Originally Posted By: Texas Smoke
My question is, how long before someone that finished 2nd to him in a tournament tracks him down and beats the living hell out of him ????


I think that is the wrong kind of language.

I don't condone cheating and none of us are perfect. His reputation has been ruined and that is justice enough. Remember we all share our common humanity.

Huh ???

Wrong kind of language ???

I asked a simple question. What's wrong with that ?


Dude, Bass tournaments aren't some freakin' sewing circle, especially when there is $20,000 - $55,000 involved. Make no mistake about it, there are folks out there that would love to beat the hell out of him, just like they would if some thug broke into their house and stole their TV. To think otherwise is naive.


It is the fact you are calling for it, or waiting for it to happen. I think that kind of language is not the correct approach is all. I am not God, and therefore do not find itmy place to call for a punishment like that.

You're making quite the assumption there. Seems like you are judging me and seeing what you WANT to see. I asked a question. If you see something different, that is YOUR problem.


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#4081732 - 10/25/09 11:26 AM Re: The thing about cheating... [Re: Texas Smoke]
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Please just drop it Texas Smoke. Y'all don't need to start fighting with each other over this deal.
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