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#4081336 - 10/25/09 08:02 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: HasBen]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 11/20/05
Posts: 3904
Loc: Lake Worth, TX
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#4081351 - 10/25/09 08:14 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Darryl Roach]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 4447
Loc: Rockwall Texas
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IMHO, He did not catch that fish and decide to wait till the final hour by accident.I suspect it was caught before the tourney and the 1 lb weight was just an insurance policy.I too dont think he woke up and decided this was the day he was going to cheat in a tournie for the first time.I do however wonder how he was passing polygraph yests in other tournies.I have heard more than one person say that he was cheating for a long time.
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#4081356 - 10/25/09 08:22 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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Angler
Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 404
Loc: lewisville
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My partner and I finished second at the Lewisville BBT last month and you know who won, fishing by himself of course and entering at the very last minute.
He won 10,000, we won 500 in BassPro Gift cards for Saturday event, which I am thankful for.
We have our finish posted up in his garage,(like a trophy) as we both believe that we won that event. Our first win as a team that we are darn proud of even though officially 2nd.
Glad we don't have to worry about him cheating the rest of us anymore.
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#4081357 - 10/25/09 08:23 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 6732
Loc: a dumpster at white rock lak...
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thats a crazy story . cheating on fishing wheeher it be recreational or tournies ,is just cheating on yourself .
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#4081365 - 10/25/09 08:29 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: ay]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 3194
Loc: Island of Jeff (Humble)
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Kind of shows the value of polygraph for those poly graph lovers. He has passed many I am sure. I doubt very much that he picked this weekend to start cheating but you never know.
The big trails know the value of a polygraph. That's why they have Co-anglers and Marshalls. Of course they can to that with the prestige and money. Small trails can't.
Looks like he was finally caught without a doubt. He's cooked, done.
I just hope that this does not put a black eye on the Texas Tournaments. Some might think that anyone that beats them consistently is cheating. Most are just good. There is definitely a class of anglers who are elite but stay in smaller tournaments. The big trails cost alot of time and money. Some just can't or don't want to get into that.
Edited by Fishspanker (10/25/09 08:37 AM)
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#4081366 - 10/25/09 08:30 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Darryl Roach]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/09/08
Posts: 1332
Loc: Cleburne,Texas
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Did they take his boat and stuff? I've heard the game wardens can take everything you got.I wish the GW would have,then hosted a $20 tourney,and give the boat,rods,and tackle away,and let the TPWD keep the $20.LOL He was cheating to win a boat,his sentence should be,take his boat.He knew what he was doing,hardtimes just means hard times,i've been down before,but never cheated or stole.NOT SAYING I DIDN'T BEG MY BUTT OFF.LOL But i think he should be punished to the max.Keep us posted.Congrats to the winner of the boat.Sounds like after 15 minutes of the tourney,he knew they would need lead or rocks to beat him.lol
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#4081369 - 10/25/09 08:32 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: whiterockjesse]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/11/08
Posts: 673
Loc: Texas
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Good, he should have a lot of time now to pump iron for body building. LMAO
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#4081375 - 10/25/09 08:36 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fishspanker]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 4447
Loc: Rockwall Texas
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Another thing that I wonder is if he had help.If he did plant fish to be picked up later it would be risky to do it yourself and have your boat seen on the lake especially if there was an off limits period.
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#4081376 - 10/25/09 08:37 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: RedRanger]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 9083
Loc: Shady Palms Trl. park, lot 17
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Robbys next calling in life will be a TV Minister....... Now that, THAT right there is a distinct possibility!
Nothing spells SUCCESS for a televangelist more than a fall from grace and a tear-stained face sobbing acknowledgement! It WORKS!
DayyyyyYummmmmmmm! That lucky son-of-uhh-GUN! Now why didn't I think to do something like that!
Consarn it all! The best I can muster is the memory of pulling a 40 foot killer-mesh seine through private water at two Aye-Emm in the morning!
Some guys have it....and some don't.
Sigh.......sigh.
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#4081383 - 10/25/09 08:43 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: JG ZX250]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/25/07
Posts: 4852
Loc: Lewisville, Texas
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132,400 leading money winner in Bass Champs one year....Good Lord. I don't know about yall,but I think the different tournament trails need to get together and get ahold of the GW's to open up an even bigger investigation if this hasn't already started...Makes me sick to even think that he might've won 100k by cheating! Heck even the guys that got beat by him...if it can be proved, sue him! Bury this guy financially and legally....He's been doin this for years more than likely and even if he told yall differently we wouldn't believe him...I bet I know where he is this monring! Cheaters and thiefs are definitely the worse kind of people
Edited by Lil' Louie (10/25/09 08:44 AM)
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#4081392 - 10/25/09 08:48 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: JG ZX250]
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Registered: 07/28/07
Posts: 168
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I would like to thank the TFF moderators for letting this topic continue as well it should. Just as in anything in life, you put money out there and there will be those try and get it dishonestly. I just can't believe it took 6 years. He had a partner in some of those tournaments as well. His website says he has won $132,400 dollars from Bass Champs alone. Good job to the BLT staff for keeping the integrity of our sport. As others stated, I find it very unlikely that his dishonesty started yesterday. Here's a bible verse for you, Romans 12:19 "Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord".
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#4081404 - 10/25/09 08:55 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Lewis Ville]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/16/07
Posts: 1584
Loc: Carrollton Tx
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Heck I was convinced he was that GOOD and BLESSED!! We still are to forgive him no matter what.
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#4081411 - 10/25/09 09:00 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Seymour Bass]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 08/31/02
Posts: 3254
Loc: Sachse, TX,
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I've known Robby for many years and yes he has won several CABA events over the years and has pasted a poly test every time it was taken for a CABA win. But of course they are NOT fool proof. But as a TD it's all we have to go by. In this case the proof is overwhelming, there is no deniying that it happened and there is NO excuse for his actions. I'm sure because of this, everyone realizes that he will no longer be allowed to participate in any tournament events including CABA from this point forward. It's truly a sad day for Robby and his family who must live with this mistake from now on including possible jail time for his actions. I would not be suprised if they had to move from this area of the country and try to start over. Although there is no excapeing the internet! While I make no excuse for Robbys actions, we must realize we will ALL reap what we sow! In situations like this we all are quick to pass judgement, but before you do, ask youself these questions: 1. Have I ever stolen ANYTHING: A single paper clip from the office for example? If so YOU are a thief!
2. Have I EVER told a "little white lie? If so, then YOU are a liar!In God's eyes, the SIZE of the sin makes NO difference! This incident also reminds of a story: ----------------------------------------------------------- And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him (Jesus) a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst. They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. John 8: 3-11 For me and my house, we will pray for Robby and his family as should all believers.
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#4081414 - 10/25/09 09:03 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Scott A.]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 07/17/03
Posts: 1403
Loc: San Marcos,Texas, USA
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There have been some highly publicized cases of cheating in bass tournaments, and this one will rank right up there. It appears from his website that he will own up to the charges. Do the crime, do the time and learn from your mistakes Robby, but you are done fishing bass tournaments in Texas. A stiff price to pay, but you earned it.
Edited by Tim Cook (10/25/09 09:08 AM)
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#4081417 - 10/25/09 09:06 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: mrouse]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/16/07
Posts: 1584
Loc: Carrollton Tx
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#4081422 - 10/25/09 09:08 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
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IMHO, He did not catch that fish and decide to wait till the final hour by accident.I suspect it was caught before the tourney and the 1 lb weight was just an insurance policy.I too dont think he woke up and decided this was the day he was going to cheat in a tournie for the first time.I do however wonder how he was passing polygraph yests in other tournies.I have heard more than one person say that he was cheating for a long time. you couldnt have said it any better. for years i have heard he was barely passing the basschamps polys.... this new innovative approach that BLT used, should become standard for others!! it is proven effective  Robby Pose(r) "beat" my stepdad out of first place at an individual tourney on lewisville (back when they did ind. tournies-2005 i believe) and Pose(r) ended up setting a one day wieght record... wonder where all those 8,9,10 pound fish were caught at??? maybe feeding troughs placed along the banks???? we will never know- i know my stepdad was pist when I told him Pose(r) was caught redhanded, cuffed and stuffed in front of an audience... this wasnt a "oooops" moment for Pose(r).... he premeditated and was confident he would pass the poly... hes done this before... look at his poker tournies... hes good there too- he has a poker face and used the good lords name to help deceive everyone....
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#4081428 - 10/25/09 09:13 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Hard Rain]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 02/15/09
Posts: 4980
Loc: Tx
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Pulling someone's license will not stop them from fishing.
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#4081438 - 10/25/09 09:18 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: mrouse]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 11/20/05
Posts: 3904
Loc: Lake Worth, TX
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I've known Robby for many years and yes he has won several CABA events over the years and has pasted a poly test every time it was taken for a CABA win. But of course they are NOT fool proof. But as a TD it's all we have to go by. In this case the proof is overwhelming, there is no deniying that it happened and there is NO excuse for his actions. I'm sure because of this, everyone realizes that he will no longer be allowed to participate in any tournament events including CABA from this point forward. It's truly a sad day for Robby and his family who must live with this mistake from now on including possible jail time for his actions. I would not be suprised if they had to move from this area of the country and try to start over. Although there is no excapeing the internet! While I make no excuse for Robbys actions, we must realize we will ALL reap what we sow! This incident also reminds me of a story: ----------------------------------------------------------- And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him (Jesus) a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst. They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. John 8: 3-11 For me and my house, we will pray for Robby and his family as should all believers. well said
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#4081439 - 10/25/09 09:18 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: X-rayed Fish]
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Registered: 10/23/00
Posts: 10123
Loc: Scroggins, TX
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IMHO, He did not catch that fish and decide to wait till the final hour by accident.I suspect it was caught before the tourney and the 1 lb weight was just an insurance policy.I too dont think he woke up and decided this was the day he was going to cheat in a tournie for the first time.I do however wonder how he was passing polygraph yests in other tournies.I have heard more than one person say that he was cheating for a long time. you couldnt have said it any better. for years i have heard he was barely passing the basschamps polys.... this new innovative approach that BLT used, should become standard for others!! it is proven effective  Robby Pose(r) "beat" my stepdad out of first place at an individual tourney on lewisville (back when they did ind. tournies-2005 i believe) and Pose(r) ended up setting a one day wieght record... wonder where all those 8,9,10 pound fish were caught at??? maybe feeding troughs placed along the banks???? we will never know- i know my stepdad was pist when I told him Pose(r) was caught redhanded, cuffed and stuffed in front of an audience... this wasnt a "oooops" moment for Pose(r).... he premeditated and was confident he would pass the poly... hes done this before... look at his poker tournies... hes good there too- he has a poker face and used the good lords name to help deceive everyone.... The new innovative approach was that the bass was lying on the bottom of the tank and they removed it to investigate. Robby never took the polygraph. He was pulled before it was administered to answer some questions about the problem with the bass. From what I was told, the problem was a 16 oz. offshore saltwater weight. Like this... 
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#4081456 - 10/25/09 09:24 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Hard Rain]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 4713
Loc: Richardson
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I will not pass judgement, that is for a legal system to decide. I will join with Mrouse and others as I choose to pray for him.
Robby Rose had mad skills as an angler. I had the pleasure to share his boat with him once. He could put a bait into places that I could not dream of.
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#4081467 - 10/25/09 09:30 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Slide_R]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 2179
Loc: Murphy, TX
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Maybe greed is Gods way of getting back at Robby.
Stuffing fish with small weights in a 5 fish bag might go undetected. Yesterday he knew he had to get his 9lb fish past the 10.61 mark. Greed did him in.
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#4081477 - 10/25/09 09:34 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: Tracker Tim]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
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greed and confidence....
Yesterday was definately your day Tim!! i told the wife about overhearing you talking about the fish jumping and stuff.. she also agreed- you were destined for that boat! good job! And to stay out there fishing, even in those 2-3's when I saw you under the bridge... man! ya did good!
Edited by R_Manning (10/25/09 09:36 AM)
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#4081481 - 10/25/09 09:35 AM
Re: The thing about cheating...
[Re: X-rayed Fish]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 3960
Loc: Azle, TX
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congrats to Tim on a well deserved win. Good lord and Good riddance to Mr Rose!!!! On the bright side, at least we wont have to read anymore of his USC manlove posts.
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