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#4038940 - 10/12/09 10:21 AM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: jig]
trlrman Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 1098
Loc: wford / t-wok
Originally Posted By: jig
Thanks Jerry and Kurtis. I'll just borrow one then, and pay you for it if I lose it or mess it up. Can I troll with an Avet 30/2 with about 500yds of 130# braid, mounted on an Ugly stik all roller 80-130# class rod? That's now my only "big" outfit, which I normally use for bottom fishing/deep drop. It may not be ideal, but is it sufficient?
i would think you should be more than covered,although not as fancy as the rig used to take the trolled tuna on tbb trip !! lol
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#4039147 - 10/12/09 11:15 AM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: trlrman]
SpecialK Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 503
Loc: Austin, TX
Bryan, that will be more that I use.
I'm using a John baker 12 with about 500 yards of 80 lb on a 30-80.
You"ll be fine.

Trolling with a big group is kinda tuff any way. You can only run about five lines off the boat at a time. We will have to split into 5 groups of 4 and decide between our groups what order people fight a fished hooked on the troll.

I am just as happy watching someone else fight a fish on the troll.

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#4039458 - 10/12/09 12:33 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TOO]
TOO Offline
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Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Update, email sent to all again today. We've got a 48 hour window to see how things develop.
Respond at your leisure, but just be ready.
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#4039495 - 10/12/09 12:43 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TOO]
Markk Offline
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Registered: 03/12/07
Posts: 1820
Loc: Flower Mound, tx
Do you think bringing some extra tequilla on board would appease the evil spirits
that are conspiring to ruin adjust this trip? I would sacrifice a bottle for
the trip.grin

flehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehanflehan


Edited by Markk (10/12/09 01:00 PM)
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#4039503 - 10/12/09 12:45 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: Markk]
TOO Offline
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Not ruin, just adjust if needed.
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#4039783 - 10/12/09 02:01 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: jig]
TX Grizzly Offline
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 1686
Loc: The Colony, Texas
Willie, if this gets rescheduled from this weekend and someone else has to drop I want back on... you guys are just not going to get rid of me that easy... bannana2
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#4039798 - 10/12/09 02:05 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TX Grizzly]
TOO Offline
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Got it, TxGrizz. LOL
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#4040622 - 10/12/09 06:14 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TOO]
galveston1602 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 872
Loc: Galveston
This trip is going to be sloppy, no 2 ways about it, If we move it back by a day, It'll only be a little less sloppy, luckily the boat fishes well in rough seas.

maybe the roughness will stir them up a bit, it was flat on my last trip and it was tough to even buy a bite!!

Ill see you at the rail!


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#4040760 - 10/12/09 07:07 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: galveston1602]
lite-liner Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 4546
Loc: little elm tx
I think if we move it back a day, sunday night will be great. thumb
(based on the info from your link)
but I agree, sat night will be snotty, as well as the day drops on sunday, but nothing any of us TFF tuna trip veterans haven't
handled w/ ease in the past.
Besides, we're in a big cat w/ a great captain.
I've jigged tuna in 10 foot seas. nuts I aint skeered! cheers

y'all better sack-up, tuna fishin aint for daisy-sniffers, pilgrim coolio

Sure hope you get in, Grizz. you're fun to fish with!
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#4040770 - 10/12/09 07:12 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: galveston1602]
K_N Offline
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Registered: 08/25/03
Posts: 1045
Loc: Irving
Quick quetion, gonna be a little rough for sure. How wet is it going to be on the rail? Dosen't appear to be shorts and sandals weather at all, more like Bibs and Boots.

k
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#4040923 - 10/12/09 07:58 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: K_N]
Margarita Mojo Offline
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Loc: Corinth Texas
How wet ya get will depend on the wind more than the waves unless we are under way. The boat will just roll with the waves on the drift.

Joe
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#4040950 - 10/12/09 08:04 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: Margarita Mojo]
X-rayed Fish Offline
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go buy a cheap stearns rainsuit at walmart for the trip- throw it away after you get off the boat. it will stink. rubber boots is a must.. you dont want wet feet. take some duct tape and tape the bottom of the rainsuit legs towards the top of the rubber boots to keep you from having them trying to work their way down. keeps the legs from catching on the bottom of the boots and pulling your shorts down...
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#4041277 - 10/12/09 09:31 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: X-rayed Fish]
galveston1602 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 872
Loc: Galveston
I own a full foul weather gear set: bibs, boots, jacket, everything and it will likely be staying at the dock unless the fcst changes

for the most part, I expect this to be a shorts and sandals trip. 58-76 range predicted here on the coast and likely a bit higher than that offshore, probably significantly higher at the floaters. The water temp is still in the mid 80's offshore so that will keep it pretty warm.

I personally like the sandals approach to shoes on these trips so that your feet always have a chance to dry but, everyone has a personal favorite shoe method. I will say this though, whatever you do, make sure your feet dry off regularly. Nothing worse than wet feet on a trip, they crack and hurt almost to the point of not being able to walk. Yep been there, done that on a trip a few years ago! it was miserable!!!

I will have a set of cheap frogtogs rolled up in the bag just in case it gets nasty but, im not expecting to need them. The boat was never tested on my last trip but, with the doors from the cabin opening to the stern of the boat instead of the sides and the restroom being inside the cabin I dont know why you would get very wet other than rain and that fcst is apparently clear!

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#4041501 - 10/12/09 10:31 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TOO]
TOO Offline
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Loc: San Antonio, Texas USA
Quote:
nothing any of us TFF tuna trip veterans haven't
handled w/ ease in the past.


Quote:
tuna fishin aint for daisy-sniffers, pilgrim


Quotes of the year right there. wink I like the attitude!

G-16's post says it all, daytime should be fine, if a bit windy, water brings the air temp to the water temps. Nights might be a bit cool if windy, nothing a Frogg Togg top won't handle just to block the wind.

Quote:
pulling your shorts down

That and the 5 gallon bucket are definite "watch for's"..................love having TFF tuna rookies on board!!
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#4042021 - 10/13/09 07:28 AM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: TOO]
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Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 337
Loc: Blackwell, TX
Lets see we have "purple balls" "bad juju" "5 gallon buckets" "bring sharp knife and favorite drink" "small poppers in full stand up gear" “heifer dust” “fly fishing shark” "pulling shorts down" and I only have three maybe four days to figure out whats dangerous and what exactly the danger is? Hehe grin

We are getting the precoldfront rain here this morning. Finally found some spro swivels last night, did you guys know that when you live in a town of 350 its hard to find spro swivels?
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#4042260 - 10/13/09 08:57 AM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: Oldtrackster]
lite-liner Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 4546
Loc: little elm tx
looks like the Saturday departure is looking better & better...

From NOAA:
GMZ270-275-140115-
WATERS FROM BAFFIN BAY TO PORT ARANSAS FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
WATERS FROM PORT ARANSAS TO MATAGORDA SHIP CHANNEL FROM 20 TO
60 NM-
747 AM CDT TUE OCT 13 2009


.FRIDAY...NORTHEAST WIND 20 TO 25 KNOTS DECREASING TO 10 TO
15 KNOTS. SEAS 7 TO 9 FEET.
.SATURDAY...NORTHEAST WIND 5 TO 10 KNOTS. SEAS 4 TO 6 FEET

weather underground:
http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/GM/230.html
"Moderate to strong offshore flow develops briefly behind the the front before diminishing through Friday night and Saturday as high pressure settles into the region"


and here's Allen's link. we're GMT/Zulu time minus 5hrs
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display.cgi?a=gom_wave

based on this new data, I think this is gonna be a great trip! banana banana
I would guess that cold weather gear is just extra baggage. a hoodie & a rain jacket
should suffice for most.
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#4042832 - 10/13/09 11:31 AM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: galveston1602]
brokenjeep Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 2357
Loc: Princeton / lake Fork
Originally Posted By: galveston1602
I own a full foul weather gear set: bibs, boots, jacket, everything and it will likely be staying at the dock unless the fcst changes

for the most part, I expect this to be a shorts and sandals trip. 58-76 range predicted here on the coast and likely a bit higher than that offshore, probably significantly higher at the floaters. The water temp is still in the mid 80's offshore so that will keep it pretty warm.

I personally like the sandals approach to shoes on these trips so that your feet always have a chance to dry but, everyone has a personal favorite shoe method. I will say this though, whatever you do, make sure your feet dry off regularly. Nothing worse than wet feet on a trip, they crack and hurt almost to the point of not being able to walk. Yep been there, done that on a trip a few years ago! it was miserable!!!

I will have a set of cheap frogtogs rolled up in the bag just in case it gets nasty but, im not expecting to need them. The boat was never tested on my last trip but, with the doors from the cabin opening to the stern of the boat instead of the sides and the restroom being inside the cabin I dont know why you would get very wet other than rain and that fcst is apparently clear!


My first trip last Dec. I wore coveralls and insulated rubber boots almost the entire trip ( I was on the back of the boat puking for eight hours with water a foot deep running back on me) then on the Feb/march trip I had on a light raincoat and sandals for a while and everyone else was bundled up, I hate to carry too much but I will probably have everything I own with me in the truck.
The one nice thing about being covered up is that when you get all covered with blood and guts you can just pull off the top layer to lay down for some rest, I hate to get all my bedding nasty the first night and then have too sleep in it the rest of the trip.

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#4042968 - 10/13/09 12:06 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: lite-liner]
galveston1602 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 872
Loc: Galveston
Ok, now Im convinced im going to need to sacrifice a popper to the tuna gods. So tonight, Ill be tying a 5oz tuna hunter to my trout reel. One good hard cast should easily pop the 10lb test and send it flying off at least a hundred yds into the cow pasture next to my house. That ought to be close enough to "dust a heiffer" Im hoping that this will make peace, and give us a chance at em on the water this weekend

seriously, who ordered the second wave of reinforced air?

This is the front on friday, definetly weaker than they first thought


and this is what the reinforced air is supposed to do on sunday afternoon

Its looking like a snotty trip any way you slice it.

Of course, this is only the second model run that this extra wind has been shown so maybe its just a flaw in the model, lets hope so!

Oh, heres a new access method to the waves model
http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/waves/viewer.shtml?-multi_1-latest-hs-gmex-


Edited by galveston1602 (10/13/09 12:08 PM)

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#4043595 - 10/13/09 02:32 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: galveston1602]
SpecialK Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 503
Loc: Austin, TX
This is what I use for people that can't read the above
The location is taken from about half way to BV/Nancen
One other thing I wanted to throw out there was sea/wave direction plays a big part in how rough the ride is...



Edited by SpecialK (10/13/09 02:33 PM)

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#4043698 - 10/13/09 02:56 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: SpecialK]
brokenjeep Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 2357
Loc: Princeton / lake Fork
Sounds just like my first two trips, rough as heck until the ride in.


Edited by brokenjeep (10/13/09 02:57 PM)

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#4043709 - 10/13/09 02:58 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: brokenjeep]
X-rayed Fish Offline
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Registered: 02/25/03
Posts: 45536
Loc: Dallas, TX
who was it that brought up the weather??? smile see what happens smile
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#4044224 - 10/13/09 05:11 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: X-rayed Fish]
mrbill Offline
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Registered: 08/13/05
Posts: 302
Are you guys still departing on Friday the 16th? Weather will be just fine. Snagged, I'll wave to you if we happen to cross paths out there.

Good luck, hope you guys catch a lot of tuna.


Tight lines and rods bent in half,
Mrbill

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#4045031 - 10/13/09 09:13 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: mrbill]
galveston1602 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 872
Loc: Galveston
For those not totally familiar with places you might visit on one of these trips (or looking for a refresh smile ), I thought Id pull out a map I made a long time ago

www.txpalms.com/deepwater.html

this is a map of all of the deepwater platforms/spars off the coast of Texas

heres a current buoyweather report for boudreaux frown




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#4045158 - 10/13/09 09:44 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: mrbill]
SpecialK Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 503
Loc: Austin, TX
Originally Posted By: mrbill
Are you guys still departing on Friday the 16th? Weather will be just fine. Snagged, I'll wave to you if we happen to cross paths out there.

Good luck, hope you guys catch a lot of tuna.


Tight lines and rods bent in half,
Mrbill

Mrbill,
We are up in the air on departure until tomorrow morning.
What boat are you going to be on?
I guess now I know the reason the weather is looking so bad. You tend to see how much the sea can dish out on a lot of your trips. You must have been mean to her in your younger years. Now she is paying you back hammer

Good luck to you. I hope to hear good reports when we return.

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#4045253 - 10/13/09 10:08 PM Re: Official TFF Tuna VIII (Ocho Tuna) charter information [Re: SpecialK]
Margarita Mojo Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 1376
Loc: Corinth Texas
Doesn't really look like a Sat departure would be any better than Friday to me, but I am not good at interpreting the forecasts either. Looks like 6-9 ft'ers for most of the time.
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