The toilet in my kids bathroom is backing up for no apparent reason? There is no paper or toys in the toilet. I pulled the toilet and changed the wax ring already tonight. I even ran a snake down while the toilet was pulled. But if you flush it 2-3 times it will back up int he bowl? What woudl cause this. I really dont want to have to call someone out if it is something simple.

You just purchased a new (different) home, didn't you?

Call a plumber and have all the lines run from the toilets to the street.

Then save up your $$$ and remember to do it every 24-30 months or so.

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Does the bathtub also drain slow? It may be a clogged vent.

Are you on city sewer or septic tank?

Okay, I'm about to hit the sheets, but we had something similar at the lake house and it was on a septic...What had happened is people were flushing the 'Rid-X' (don't use this product by the way) in the toilet furthest from the tank...It wasn't able to flush all the way down the line and crystalized just before the kitchen sink drain...Fortunately, either the realtor or the previous owner paid for it because we didn't even pay the deductible or file a claim with the warranty company...

get a water hose and after you remove toilet fill the line then try to plunge it. if not rent an auger and go thru vents and clean out. it is usually cheaper and safer in the long run to have an plumber do this though.

Yes I just purchased a new to me home. Moved in Saturday. Luckily we got the home warranty. I guess we will be calling a plumber already.

We are on city sewer.

older home? Could be clay pipes and if there is a tree close to the line running to the curb then you have roots in your line.

Thats it make hime feel all warm and fuzzy after buying a new home. I am glad you are not in the welcoming commity.

If I remember correctly, you get one clean-out per warranty period (year) for your deductible. Read the policy you were given at Closing _before_ the service person gets to your home and understand what is covered and what is not. The service person gets paid extra on the up-sell.

Welcome to your new home..... we've all done it....

When I was a Texas-licensed real estate sales person I had my own copy of "The Money Pit" for my new clients. Just so they'd know what they were getting in to....

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It's actually not that bad of a problem, one time roto-rooter or whatever then epsom salt every so often.

Sounds like maybe you have a toy or "item" in you toilet trap itself

Easy to diagonse

Pull toilet, sit up on block and pour 2 gallons of water into the bowl a few times. See if it blocks or backs up.

Then while toilet is pulled, Grab a water hose and run water down the "Closet Bend" or the hole in floor where the toilet sits. Let it run a few minutes and see if it backs up.


I would say 90% of the time when I see the Issue you are talking about, I would say the toilet is bad or has some type of Forgein object stuck in the toilet.

I am going to pull the toilet this weekend. My kiddos may have already shoved something in the toilet.

they flushed one too many goldfish down there....

If you run the water hose in the pipe. Think cross-connection.

remember my famous post about the toilet block in my kids bathroom. after hours of plunging and snaking i finally yanked out a pair of boy undies, my sons are still scared from that arse chewing

Plumbers cam out today and the clean out was dirty. They ran the snake and did not pull out any roots or anything. They said since the house has sat for a few months it was clogged.

Is there anything I can put down the drain to help keep roots out?

SCUBA GEAR and hedge clippers!

Your a diver right.

Was ----Retired now...Want to borrow my stuff?

u should pm redranger. seriously.

epsom salt will keep roots out

Plumbing is fine now.

Inquiring minds want to know......

What was the fix?

Pipe by the clean out was backing up. They cleaned the line and all is good now. They did not find any roots though. I am going to get som rock salt and pout down for root prevention.

Waste of time putting rock salt in a line for roots. It will only get pushed down the line, everytime water is used in your house

Explain the term, "Pipe by the Clean Out was backing up", Are you talking about a lateral line?

They ran the line from the clean out to the street. I was not outside when they did it.

I'll bet the house was vacant for a while.....

I believe the house was vacant for 6-8 months.

Kinda harsh punishment there Dave

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I hate to wake up to a clogged toilet.

Quite Common.

If the house was new, I have seen the Closet Bend (The hole in the floor the toilet sits on), be used as a trash can and debris is ran down the line (Nails / Grout / Small pieces of trimmed tile) and it can cause back ups.

If it happens again, have you homebuilder run a camera down the line and make sure the line is clear from debris

After owning a few rentals, I've seen it all! Here's what happens......when the house is occupied, water goes through the drains on a regular basis....the roots in the ground get fed from the little bit of water that seeps through the joints in the sewer pipes. When the house is vacant, the roots seek the water, and creep into the tiny crevices in the sewer pipes, thus clogging the main sewer.
One of the first things I used to do was buy a gallon of Muratic Acid, and pour it down the main cleanout, perferably, when nobody is going to use the water, like overnight.
Using Muritic Acid has saved me many times. The only thong is not to use it regularly...it's corrosive and not good for your sewer pipes if used too often, about once or twice a year. The other thing is even the smallest drop will burn a hole right through your clothes, I ruined many pairs of levis! Muratic Acid is used by masons for cleaning bricks, they dilute it though. It's about $5.00 bucks a gallon. I've seen the stuff work.....
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They also use it in swimmming pools. I used to use Muriatic Acid to intentionally "age"(rust) hinges and bought mine in the 5 gallon bucket size at a place that sold swimming pool supplies.

Go to a plumbing supply and find a product called "Thrift" use it monthly and never again will yoy have problems unless someone flushes their shorts down the pot. Thrift even keeps the hair out of the bathroom sinks where folks wash their hair.

How much epsom salt and how often?

Copper sulfate kills roots in lines. You can find it at Lowes Home Depot.