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#4032530 - 10/09/09 11:17 PM Soon to be 1st time powder coater
pepop Offline
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Registered: 04/22/09
Posts: 2511
Loc: Chandler, Texas
A little advise please. I'll soon be trying the powder coat thing on some plain jig heads and until I know I want to keep going, what's the best method of pre-heating the jig and then setting the paint? I don't have a workshop of any kind so it's the kitchen or my office. Am I asking for trouble? whip Are there any step-by-step instructions out there that are worthwhile?

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#4032641 - 10/10/09 01:04 AM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: pepop]
Dink Dodger Offline
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Registered: 04/20/05
Posts: 613
Loc: Lewisville TX
It's pretty simple. For just doing a few you can use a lighter. Fluff up the powder by turning the jar upside down and tap until all of the powder goes to the lid, then turn it on it's side and roll it back and forth several times. Heat the head for about 3-5 seconds, dip and swish quickly in the powder and tap off any excess quickly (tap hook shank on edge of jar). This whole motion needs to be less than a second. You may need to return to the heat for just a second. It should be nice and shiny. Dip jig in a cup of cold water. This cools the paint very fast making it brittle and easier to clean the eye of the hook. If the paint smokes after dipping, your jig is too hot. The jig head should look like a piece of hard candy you just took out of your mouth. Each time you tap the excess powder off, it packs the powder back down. Re-fluff your powder every three or four jigs or you will start to see clumps on your jig head that will look like bubbles.
Use an old pocket knife or something to clean the paint out of the eye. Do this before curing. Once cured, it is extremely difficult to clean the eye. Use your shirt tail to wipe off any extra water or finger prints. You will need to get a $10 toaster oven and bake the heads at 325 for 15-20 minutes to cure the powder. Not a good idea to cook lead in your home oven.
It is very easy even though this may sound difficult. It should take about 6-8 seconds to paint a head not counting cleaning the eye and curing. Once you get going, you can get a heat gun to heat the heads.

BTW If you want to stay out of the dog house, you may want to put the toaster oven on the porch while baking.


Edited by Dink Dodger (10/10/09 01:08 AM)
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#4033223 - 10/10/09 11:44 AM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Dink Dodger]
pepop Offline
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Registered: 04/22/09
Posts: 2511
Loc: Chandler, Texas
Thanks for the tips. I have some powder coming from a trade and am anxious to try my hand. If my first attempt turns out ok, I'll post. Thanks again.

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#4033232 - 10/10/09 11:51 AM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: pepop]
Radtexan Offline
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Registered: 02/15/05
Posts: 4629
Loc: Lubbock
Good instructions Dink !!!

I used a lighter when I first started,but it will leave a carbon residue.Got an alcohol burner a while back and love it.Very inexpensive.

Ive never tried the cold water trick.I usually let them cool on a drying rack,and get busy...Might be in the minority,but I dont cure mine.Have very little problems in chipping (tend to loose jigs faster than I can wear out the paint )
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#4033358 - 10/10/09 01:34 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Radtexan]
Brian Spagnola Offline
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Registered: 09/17/05
Posts: 15406
Loc: McKinney Texas
Originally Posted By: Radtexan
Good instructions Dink !!!

I used a lighter when I first started,but it will leave a carbon residue.Got an alcohol burner a while back and love.Very inexpensive.

Ive never tried the cold water trick.I usually let them cool on a drying rack,and get busy...Might be in the minority,but I dont cure mine.Have very little problems in chipping (tend to loose jigs faster than I can wear out the paint )


Dont cure mine either.

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#4033447 - 10/10/09 02:41 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Brian Spagnola]
hotmod Offline
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Registered: 08/31/08
Posts: 441
Loc: Lubbock, Texas
We use a heat gun from Harbor Freight that cost about ten bucks & it works great. We just heat the jig head, dip it & then heat it again & hang it on a rack to cool. We do NOT bake ours either.
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#4033576 - 10/10/09 04:29 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: hotmod]
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Registered: 11/13/07
Posts: 848
Loc: Red Oak,Texas
I use an alcohol burner and cure mine. I may have been doing it wrong before but cureing stopped them from being brittle.
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#4033855 - 10/10/09 06:32 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: hotmod]
RodneySr Offline
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Registered: 08/15/09
Posts: 1061
Loc: Daphne Alabama
Originally Posted By: hotmod
We use a heat gun from Harbor Freight that cost about ten bucks & it works great. We just heat the jig head, dip it & then heat it again & hang it on a rack to cool. We do NOT bake ours either.


I think I am going to STOP curing mine everytime i think the jig head looks good I cure them and have few out of each the first few batches where the paint formed a nipple then the head was ruined... I thought if I was NOT curing I would be the only one smile
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#4034223 - 10/10/09 08:26 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: RodneySr]
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theres sevaral good u tube vids on powder coating jigs. I think TJS TACKLE has a few.
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#4034309 - 10/10/09 08:41 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: pepop]
RedTopLady Offline
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Registered: 10/26/04
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Loc: Ellis County, Texas
I have fine tuned the timing and never have a bad one and the paint does not chip even after I hit a bridge column.

I use a bic lighter and move the jig back and forth quickly thru the flame while I count. I do the fluff powder just like described and dip after heating, times listed below. Tap very lightly the excess, be careful not to knock over the jar. Then I clean out the eye if needed, usually don't need to. Then I hang them on my rack to cool. This keeps them from nippling or bubbling, etc. while curing. My rack also is my curing rack. The paint is still powdery when I hang them. When they cure they are shiny and hard but not brittle. They never get too hot and smoke. I can make a rack full in a matter of a few minutes and my rack will hold 60 jigs. Cure them at 250 for 15 minutes, let them cool and turn on the oven again for 15 minutes. I use a small toaster oven I bought at Wal-Mart, cheap. I do it on my porch, did not want the hot lead in the house. I made the rack out of wire and it fits inside the little pan that came with the oven.

1/8oz jig 6 count
1/16 jig 4 count
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#4034498 - 10/10/09 09:30 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: RodneySr]
Dink Dodger Offline
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Registered: 04/20/05
Posts: 613
Loc: Lewisville TX
Originally Posted By: RodneySr
Originally Posted By: hotmod
We use a heat gun from Harbor Freight that cost about ten bucks & it works great. We just heat the jig head, dip it & then heat it again & hang it on a rack to cool. We do NOT bake ours either.


I think I am going to STOP curing mine everytime i think the jig head looks good I cure them and have few out of each the first few batches where the paint formed a nipple then the head was ruined... I thought if I was NOT curing I would be the only one smile


Rodney
Your jig is too hot and your leaving in the powder too long. Another thing could be that your powder is not fluffed enough.
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#4034816 - 10/11/09 12:00 AM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Dink Dodger]
RodneySr Offline
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Registered: 08/15/09
Posts: 1061
Loc: Daphne Alabama
Originally Posted By: Dink Dodger
Originally Posted By: RodneySr
Originally Posted By: hotmod
We use a heat gun from Harbor Freight that cost about ten bucks & it works great. We just heat the jig head, dip it & then heat it again & hang it on a rack to cool. We do NOT bake ours either.


I think I am going to STOP curing mine everytime i think the jig head looks good I cure them and have few out of each the first few batches where the paint formed a nipple then the head was ruined... I thought if I was NOT curing I would be the only one smile


Rodney
Your jig is too hot and your leaving in the powder too long. Another thing could be that your powder is not fluffed enough.


Probably all the above smile
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#4036470 - 10/11/09 02:34 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: RedTopLady]
Radtexan Offline
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Loc: Lubbock
Originally Posted By: RedTopLady
Tap very lightly the excess, be careful not to knock over the jar.


Is that from experience Gloria ??? nuts
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#4037486 - 10/11/09 07:22 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Radtexan]
RedTopLady Offline
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Registered: 10/26/04
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Loc: Ellis County, Texas
Originally Posted By: Radtexan
Originally Posted By: RedTopLady
Tap very lightly the excess, be careful not to knock over the jar.


Is that from experience Gloria ??? nuts


I did have a close call which let me know to be more careful. Thank goodness the jar only bobbled a little and did not turn over. scared But, I try to warn anyone just starting out. Powder Paint all over would not be a good thing to have to clean up. And, I read all these stories about what everyone's wife gets mad at them for and won't let them do in the house. So I figure someone would really get in trouble if they spilled Powder Paint on the carpet or on a hard wood floor, never would get it out of the cracks or carpet pile.
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#4078903 - 10/23/09 11:03 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: RedTopLady]
pepop Offline
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Registered: 04/22/09
Posts: 2511
Loc: Chandler, Texas
Just thought I'd re-visit this topic after my first attempt. I must be holding my mouth wrong or something (prolly need to get a heat gun or alcohol burner). Bet you guessed it. The Chartruce turned out pretty good (I was so pleased with myself) bannana2. Did about 10 and ... usable. Then I swiched to hot pink and YUCK! barf! I don't know how to describe the color I ended up with but needless to say, it wasn't hot pink. I stopped after 2. I'm going to tie one on in the morning before the sun comes up enough for the crappie to see it good. Maybe a goodun will see it and lapse into a laughter induced coma and float to the surface rolfmao

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#4094315 - 10/28/09 04:46 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: pepop]
Mo Offline
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Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 8043
Loc: Lake Palestine/Cherokee co
the best way to do it is with a heat gun and toaster oven.
I tie jigs for my own amusement, from crappie size up to
1 oz bucktails for hybrids.


My biggest mistakes were double dipping in the powder which
resulted in too much paint and nipples on my jigs.

the Other mistake was curing too long at too high a temp,
resulting in melting the lead off the hooks.

I cure at 250 for 10 minutes and get very durable heads ,
no chipping.

MO
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#4097527 - 10/29/09 03:00 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: Mo]
TBO Offline
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Registered: 09/13/08
Posts: 279
Loc: Vidor
Hey Radtexan where did you get your alcohol burner. I need to get one. Thanks
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#4097598 - 10/29/09 03:26 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: TBO]
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Registered: 11/13/07
Posts: 848
Loc: Red Oak,Texas
here is 1 place.http://www.mudhole.com/Alcohol-Burner
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#4098473 - 10/29/09 06:06 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: sloedown]
TBO Offline
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Registered: 09/13/08
Posts: 279
Loc: Vidor
Thanks Slow That looks like a reel good site
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#4098896 - 10/29/09 07:55 PM Re: Soon to be 1st time powder coater [Re: TBO]
Radtexan Offline
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Registered: 02/15/05
Posts: 4629
Loc: Lubbock
TBo I ordered one from a fly shop I was getting some things from,but found one later at hobby lobby for next to nothin,might check any craft,or stores that might have any type of science project items.
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