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#3963203 - 09/22/09 02:05 PM Ray Roberts COE brushpiles
Stumphumper Offline
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Registered: 06/27/07
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Hey guys! My name is Tawrence Griffin. Me and a buddy of mine joined CAT at the last meeting in Sept. Im a die hard crappie fisherman and happy to be apart of the club. I have been trying to get ahold of a map with accurate GPS cords for Ray Roberts COE brushpiles, if I purchase a navionics map card will those cords be accurate or will they even be on the card? Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys
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#3963417 - 09/22/09 02:48 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Stumphumper]
Brian Spagnola Offline
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PM Ernest Paty.
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#3963420 - 09/22/09 02:49 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Brian Spagnola]
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Originally Posted By: Brian Spagnola
PM Ernest Paty.
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#3963666 - 09/22/09 04:06 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Bobcat1]
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Hello and welcome.

The COE BPs are not on the Navionics chip. The only published map that really has them is the Martins Map but is use the 1927 Datum for the waypoints.

Therefore when you plug those waypoints into your graph you could be off from 100 to 200 yards or more because your GPS will be using WGS84 as a datum.

There are a couple of ways around this but the two posters above me may have the simpliest remedy. laugh


Edited by SheldonS (09/23/09 08:13 PM)
Edit Reason: correct datum name
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#3963690 - 09/22/09 04:13 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: SheldonS]
BigMack Offline
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Per the previous posts above, Ernest handed out a list of confirmed waypoints for RayBob a few meetings ago. thumb
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#3967122 - 09/23/09 01:19 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: BigMack]
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Originally Posted By: BigMack
Per the previous posts above, Ernest handed out a list of confirmed waypoints for RayBob a few meetings ago. thumb


and atleast 15 of them are very accurate on the west arm as I hit them sunday morning. I have the coords on an sd card if Ernest is ok with giving them out.
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#3967409 - 09/23/09 02:26 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: stretch]
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The Lowrance maps have many of the COE brushpiles marked...look for little black squares with nothing in the center.

As mentioned above the datum used at the time has caused some error.

Most current model GPS units use WGS 84 as a default.


Edited by BaitFish (09/23/09 02:27 PM)
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#3967662 - 09/23/09 03:34 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Team MadMac]
Mark Priddy Offline
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You can switch your GPS to nad 27 find the pile change it back to wgs84 then remark the spot.I have a hand held that just stays on nad27 and one that stays on wgs84 . Some of the cords on the martan maps are right on and three of the piles I could not find after hunting meany times. With Ernest cords I found all three first time.
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#3968593 - 09/23/09 07:44 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Mark Priddy]
Lund17.5 Offline
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Registered: 05/13/09
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Loc: Trophy Club, TX
Fellas (and Ladies) - I hate to be overly conservative here but my opinion on sharing the LL COE brushpile waypoints is that the gentleman should contact Mr. Paty through the normal channels and that those of us who aquired them from Ernest not provide them directly to others.

All best,

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#3968595 - 09/23/09 07:45 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Lund17.5]
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Sorry - I meant RR brushpiles.

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#3968624 - 09/23/09 07:54 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Lund17.5]
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That was the agreement as I remember it.
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#3968792 - 09/23/09 08:33 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Bobcat1]
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#3968829 - 09/23/09 08:41 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Mark Priddy]
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What is this about Coe brushpiles? Does the corps of engineers actually put brushpiles out on lakes to attract fish? I have never heard of one or seen one on Belton or Stillhouse hollow lakes here in central Texas. Generally the corps interest is in maintaining the conservation pool and other related matters. I didnt know they assisted in wildlife managment. Am I understanding this correctly?
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#3968952 - 09/23/09 09:06 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: leanin post]
Brian Spagnola Offline
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Originally Posted By: leanin post
What is this about Coe brushpiles? Does the corps of engineers actually put brushpiles out on lakes to attract fish? I have never heard of one or seen one on Belton or Stillhouse hollow lakes here in central Texas. Generally the corps interest is in maintaining the conservation pool and other related matters. I didnt know they assisted in wildlife managment. Am I understanding this correctly?


I heard they have huge parties on friday nights and fry up all the fish they take away from people wothout fishing licenses or enough life jackets.
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#3969052 - 09/23/09 09:33 PM Re: Ray Roberts COE brushpiles [Re: Brian Spagnola]
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Spagnola.. since when does the COE have anything to do with taking fish, checking licenses, or checking for life jackets?? I thought that was TPW.. funny comment, but I think the guy was trying to learn something.
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