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#3915499 - 09/10/09 02:04 AM Capt. John 36 hour
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Is anyone going on the 36 hour tuna run with capt. John this weekend?
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#3917038 - 09/10/09 12:58 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Decent boat, nice crew, but have not figured out the tuna game --YET! I have done this trip a couple of times and its great for blackfin, you will be able to catch em till you can't lift your arms anymore. But when it comes to targeting my favorite fish-YFT- they just do not have their game together yet. The learning curve in the tuna game is steep, I have been targeting YFT for 6 or 7 years now and am still learning the ropes.
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#3918384 - 09/10/09 07:24 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: bigscrnman]
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We are going out, will let everyone know how it goes.
I went with them once dec 2007 and caught a 70lb yellow fin but it was the only one of the boat lots of black fin like you said.
all in all the price is great for the amount of fishing you do.
I went out of venice twice earlier in the year cost $2000 each time and no tuna. so now I am on a budget.

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#3930511 - 09/13/09 11:42 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Well we went out this weekend with the Captain John. We ended up back in Galveston after 15 hours. When the trip started the weather was a bit rough so the ride out was not the best. However we got through the rain and once we hit our first stop at around 80 miles out for the b-liners there was not a cloud in the sky we had passed the front and you could not ask for a better day of fishing. Everyone loaded the boat with tons of vermillan snapper, some kings, grouper, and other various species. It was a very productive stop. After that we headed on to boom vang floater for the night time tuna fishing.
The boat had stopped when we were about one and a half hours from the floaters, no anouncement was made why so we asked a deck and what is going on. They replied that someone on the ship was very sea sick and they were checking him out to see how serious it was. All of a sudden without any announcement from the crew or capt we were headed back to shore. So the word was that some one was realy sick and they had to take them back. If someone is that sick shouldn't the care flight or coast gaurd come get them instead of making them endour a 7 hour ride back. some people on the boat were asleep and awoke to find them selves looking at the galveston skyline,since there was never a formal announcement of what had happened untill we reached the jetty.
know if someone was so sick that 40 people had there trip terminated because of it, why was there no ambulance waiting for him when we got back. He just got up loaded his stuff in his car and drove off. The mood of all the other patrons was very sore on the way in and at the dock. Turns out because of one sea sick person we all lost out on our fishing trip. I don't want to sound selfish because if some ones life is in jepordy by all means fishing is not worth it. However they need to come up with a better system of dealing with something like this in the futur. I have enjoyed many past trips with the capt john and the crew was great on this trip. He did refund some of our money since this happened. I still don't know what to think about it all.
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#3930555 - 09/14/09 12:06 AM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Huh ... yeah, if someone is so sick - mal der mer or otherwise - that the trip has to be stopped, then it seems like the situation would be considered critical enough to call the Coast Guard to come get him with a chopper. Would certainly be faster if someones life were in danger.

But, I certainly don't have all the facts in hand, so I couldn' offer an opinion as to whether they did the right thing or not. Was the amount of the refund fair in your eyes for the fishing you were able to get in?


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#3930597 - 09/14/09 12:29 AM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: Zeek the Greek]
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The refund was fair and Captain Johnny is such a nice guy, I will not hold it against them. I do think they need to find another solution for these kind of things in the future. Maybe make all customers sign a contract that if you feel you need to go back then at your expence call for care flight. Or have a contract with someone back at Galveston with a fairly quick boat and have them on call to come and pick up.
I was never told all the details either but from what I heard the guy was pretty sick but blood pressure was normal so coast guard would not come out for him. They recommended to bring him in so at this point the Captain is responsible and with the amount of law suite happy people in this world you can not take any risks. That why I don't hold it against them but they need to figure out a better way to handle this in the future.
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#3930625 - 09/14/09 01:28 AM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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The Coast Guard is not a Ferry service. If the guy was dehydrated he had to get medical attention. Afraid there is not much they could do except come in. It the pits though to have it happen and it is why they make seasickness pills.

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#3933442 - 09/14/09 06:04 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: FoldCatOne]
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They could give Paramedics discounts so if that happens they can give some IV and meds for vomiting. I would do it in a heart beat. In fact I have done it before.
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#3933607 - 09/14/09 06:59 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Originally Posted By: czechmate
if someone was so sick that 40 people had there trip terminated because of it, why was there no ambulance waiting for him when we got back. He just got up loaded his stuff in his car and drove off.


Why would you even step on a 36 hour trip knowing you are prone to sea sickness? That's pretty stupid in the first place.

I'd post a picture of the puke-er on the internet. Find out who he is and save all your vomit for a year, freeze it and mail to him so he gets it on Christmas Eve. laugh

I've seen some interesting remedies over the years. One of the most effective methods is to toss them overboard wearing a life jacket. Give them a bottle of water and tie a rope to the life jacket and a boat cleat. Start telling shark stories out loud so the barf-er can hear them. That usually makes them get it together real fast. They stop worrying about pukeing and beg to come back onboard. splat

Being a commerical boat, I think Capt John made the right decision. The guy could have been a man and apoligized to the group before he ran to his truck to make the great escape.


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#3934171 - 09/14/09 08:53 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: mrbill]
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I don't think he had a choice once the Coast Guard recommended he bring him back in. Captain John lost a bit on the trip also I suspect.
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#3934485 - 09/14/09 09:46 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: trapperben]
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Maybe it's just me, but I have been sea sick before on trips and always just suck it up and go! Have been at the rail with pole in hand chummin my own line but never quit. I am reasonably certain that if dude had just asked for some bonine someone on board would have been happy to share (I always carry extra)and save the trip. No fault on the Capt, think he made the right call under the circumstances. The passenger in question however needs a talkin to!
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#3934545 - 09/14/09 09:59 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: bigscrnman]
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I've never even heard of this on a partyboat. Not ever. And every single overnight trip I have been on there has been at least one person heaving his guts out. I have been seasick bad before, but I cannot imagine making the boat turn around. My first thought is that he must have made up some medical excuse and maybe threatened lawsuit to get the captian to come in.

The bad thing is, this will likely have some negative affect on future trips. I can see them prohibiting folks with ANY medical condition in the future. You are right, the boat probably took a financial hit, and business is spotty for those guys anyway. So it must have been a serious issue for Johnny to turn around.

I would have been awfully pissed.

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#3934559 - 09/14/09 10:02 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: jig]
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Now that I think about it, I would like to have an attorney sue the guy, class action style, on behalf of everyone on the boat. If he just got in his car and left likely not a medical issue. The boat would have had an ambulance at the dock if it were really medical; too much liability just to let him drive off. Something is weird about this.

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#3934717 - 09/14/09 10:39 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: jig]
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Trust me, we all thought it was weird. Now I want to know what they will do to prevent something like this in the future. Can't they make everyone sign something stating if you are unable to finish the trip you will be financialy resposible for a care flight.
There was a bunch of guys that flew in from Atlanta for the trip talk about being pissed.
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#3934807 - 09/14/09 11:05 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: bigscrnman]
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Originally Posted By: bigscrnman
Maybe it's just me, but I have been sea sick before on trips and always just suck it up and go! Have been at the rail with pole in hand chummin my own line but never quit. I am reasonably certain that if dude had just asked for some bonine someone on board would have been happy to share (I always carry extra)and save the trip. No fault on the Capt, think he made the right call under the circumstances. The passenger in question however needs a talkin to!


I am with bigscrnman on this one. The puker gets pansie-wuss award of the year. Do you know how many times I have baited, dropped, puked, reeled it in, get fish off, puke, repeat... Are you kidding me!? Willing to bet dude was out drinking the night before or some other nonsense. They should have stuck and I.V. in his arm, lay him on his stomach and hang a pail on his head. Take some medicine, drink water, keep some food down and you'll be fine, and next time you go out, much less of a chance you'll get sick.


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#3938161 - 09/15/09 08:05 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: Bilge Bait]
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Don't remember what boat, but ~15 years ago (maybe 20) I took my son on a day trip outa Galveston - 50-60' catamaran - and for the first hour out we were going full bore skipping over 10' swells - fully half the 60 poor souls on that boat were heaving - I had never seen my son so sick in his life - or anyone else that sick for that matter - and half the boat was sick - you couldn't get near the head . . . . . .

They didn't turn around.......
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#3938992 - 09/15/09 11:27 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: DanDaBald]
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I've been on every boat in Port Aransas at least twice and Never have I ever been on one that came in early due to some Seasickness. On a Trip like that they need to make an agreement that if for some Lame a$$ reason such as seasickness you got to be brought back early you got to cover the money lost on cutting the trip short. They should've taken the guy on out to the floaters and let him get on the rig and wait for a crew boat to come out and take his sorry butt back to land.

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#3943278 - 09/16/09 09:46 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: DEERSTRANGLER™]
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That's what I am talking about.
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#3948175 - 09/18/09 09:20 AM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Y'know, from a practical standpoint taking him to a floater would've made sense. They're better equipped for medical emergencies and from czechmates report, it sounds like they were closer.

Just find it odd that the guy who had a medical emergency was able to get in his car & drive home. How much of an emergency could it truly have been?
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#3953886 - 09/19/09 09:07 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: Zeek the Greek]
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We were only one and a half hours from the floaters. The guy was only sea sick just made some story up when he thought about puking for another 30 hours.
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#3953977 - 09/19/09 09:32 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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Originally Posted By: czechmate
Well we went out this weekend with the Captain John. We ended up back in Galveston after 15 hours. When the trip started the weather was a bit rough so the ride out was not the best. However we got through the rain and once we hit our first stop at around 80 miles out for the b-liners there was not a cloud in the sky we had passed the front and you could not ask for a better day of fishing. Everyone loaded the boat with tons of vermillan snapper, some kings, grouper, and other various species. It was a very productive stop. After that we headed on to boom vang floater for the night time tuna fishing.
The boat had stopped when we were about one and a half hours from the floaters, no anouncement was made why so we asked a deck and what is going on. They replied that someone on the ship was very sea sick and they were checking him out to see how serious it was. All of a sudden without any announcement from the crew or capt we were headed back to shore. So the word was that some one was realy sick and they had to take them back. If someone is that sick shouldn't the care flight or coast gaurd come get them instead of making them endour a 7 hour ride back. some people on the boat were asleep and awoke to find them selves looking at the galveston skyline,since there was never a formal announcement of what had happened untill we reached the jetty.
know if someone was so sick that 40 people had there trip terminated because of it, why was there no ambulance waiting for him when we got back. He just got up loaded his stuff in his car and drove off. The mood of all the other patrons was very sore on the way in and at the dock. Turns out because of one sea sick person we all lost out on our fishing trip. I don't want to sound selfish because if some ones life is in jepordy by all means fishing is not worth it. However they need to come up with a better system of dealing with something like this in the futur. I have enjoyed many past trips with the capt john and the crew was great on this trip. He did refund some of our money since this happened. I still don't know what to think about it all.


becuase of this, you wont ever see me on thier tuna trips. that sucks! pansy arse should toughed it out!
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#3963642 - 09/22/09 04:00 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: X-rayed Fish]
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I understand your frustration with the sick guy. I'm not sure he made the call to go back. Someone is not a pany waist because they get sea sick. I mostly am fine but once in a while I get sick. So your position is those that might get sick should never go? I too can fish sick and I can asure you taking bonnine does not cure sea sickness once it starts and will not positively prevent it. I probably agree the boat should only go in for life threatening events. However, for you hard asses that have never been sick and thus have no compassion I hope you heave your guts up sometime.

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#3969193 - 09/23/09 10:11 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: olducker]
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I have been sick before too and there is nothing I wanted more then to get off that boat. However I would lay down in the corner somewhere on the boat and let the other 40 fishermen finish there trip. What if they had someone on call back at the marina with a fast sport fish boat that could get out and pick up the sick person for some fee that would be agreed on and in the contract of all fishermen getting on these long range boats?
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#3969508 - 09/23/09 11:42 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: czechmate]
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If they could afford a boat to stick in a slip at the docks that could make it out to where the party boat is they'd put fishermen in it instead of having it sit there not making any money.

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#3972318 - 09/24/09 04:41 PM Re: Capt. John 36 hour [Re: DEERSTRANGLER™]
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They need to get some phenegrin (sp?) suppositories to carry on board. That way, they can approach the aflicted party and say "Stick this up ...."

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