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 Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/16/09 05:06 PM
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kevin
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a dead snake is a good snake
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/16/09 10:42 PM
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racing75
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Copperhead with fall foilage 
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: jkmccoy]
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09/17/09 02:40 AM
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woody03
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The color pattern is unusually bright, but that is a juvenile broad-banded water snake ( Nerodia fasciata confluens. Here's a picture with similar coloration (although yours is brighter) - broad-banded watersnake picture This is definitely NOT a copperhead ( Agkistrodon contortrix)or a water moccasin ( Agkistrodon piscivorus). The head scalation is not correct. Head shape is not correct. Pupil of eye is round. Scales are too weakly keeled. A copperhead or water moccasin this size would have a bright yellow or green tail. Tail shape is not a widely useful character for snake identification. Cheers, Kelly McCoy West Texas I disagree. I beleive the head on the snake in the first picture is of the shape you would generally relate to a venomous snake. (in my opinion)
Last edited by woody03; 09/17/09 02:42 AM.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/18/09 12:21 AM
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Kid Chuckles
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It's a copperheadedrattlemochosin they live near that guys house mostly. Have you ever seen a snake spin out. If one gets near me i drop a pile of slick S#$% that even a snake will spin out in can't catch me that way. And if it gets near again you can smell it before it gets to close.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: Kid Chuckles]
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09/18/09 01:39 AM
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Pope1
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Many non-venomous snakes flatten their heads when in a defensive pose. Triangular head or not, McCoy had it the first time. http://www.texassnakes.net/BroadBanded.htm
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: B_Rod]
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09/21/09 02:49 PM
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never really cared what kind of snake it is. if you can see the snake you are way to close
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: jkmccoy]
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09/21/09 09:40 PM
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The color pattern is unusually bright, but that is a juvenile broad-banded water snake ( Nerodia fasciata confluens. Here's a picture with similar coloration (although yours is brighter) - broad-banded watersnake picture This is definitely NOT a copperhead ( Agkistrodon contortrix)or a water moccasin ( Agkistrodon piscivorus). The head scalation is not correct. Head shape is not correct. Pupil of eye is round. Scales are too weakly keeled. A copperhead or water moccasin this size would have a bright yellow or green tail. Tail shape is not a widely useful character for snake identification. Cheers, Kelly McCoy West Texas what he said
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/25/09 04:30 AM
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Triangle shaped head, thick body and blunt tail are pit viper family traits. X 10000 good thing you killed that sucker!
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/25/09 04:40 AM
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Kelly McCoy stated it and I'll add to it. Round Pupils = Non Venomous. I've found a bunch of these before and sometimes they're dark and sometimes they're really bright and vivid.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: B_Rod]
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09/26/09 04:27 AM
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Clay S.
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It does not have a diamond shaped head so defanatley not a copperhead..
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: Clay S.]
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09/26/09 03:21 PM
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Dragonuv
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It's pretty disheartening that so many are so quick to say "kill it". Even it was venomous, unless it poised a direct threat, there is no need to kill it. It makes no sense to me to kill an animal just because it has the "ability" to cause us harm. All you have to do to remain safe...is be smarter than the animal. If it can't be avoided or safely moved, that is one thing, but to just kill something because it exists on the same ground as you is simply sad. I was bitten by a copperhead when I was young, and even though I have seen a thousand of them since, I don't kill them or even harbor disdain towards them.
If you feel you must hurt something...go bang your head against a brick wall...maybe you will accidentally knock some sense into yourself and see that the needless killing of anything only serves to display what type of person you are.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/17/15 02:20 PM
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keri888
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This type of snake is a broadbanded water snake.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: Parkenstein]
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09/17/15 02:23 PM
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Brandon123
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Definitely...NOT a copperhead.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
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09/17/15 02:29 PM
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Whatever it is, it is , that is about the most unique coloring I have ever seen.
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Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
[Re: Parkenstein]
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09/17/15 02:37 PM
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That snake has been dead for six years.
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