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#3933639 - 09/14/09 07:10 PM Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it???
Parkenstein Offline
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Registered: 07/14/03
Posts: 1037
Loc: Prosper, TX
Not sure what kind of snake this is. Opened the garage door and there it was.


Compared to an actual copperhead that was in our swimming pool a few years back.



Edited by Parkenstein (09/14/09 10:07 PM)
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#3933651 - 09/14/09 07:14 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: Parkenstein]
Kentucky Online   content
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Loc: Sachse, Tx
These pictures seem to be before the death blows were struck ?
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#3933655 - 09/14/09 07:15 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: Parkenstein]
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Registered: 11/10/08
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Im going with Copperhead. One that is really red and black where it should be brown and dark brown.
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#3933674 - 09/14/09 07:20 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: mo-sin]
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Registered: 08/30/09
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Loc: Fort Worth, TX
that doesn't look like a copperhead to me but i can't think of what it might be
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#3933706 - 09/14/09 07:27 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: Parker S.]
rb7764 Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 1990
Loc: Frisco, TX, USA
The pupils in the eyes are round, so I think this is a water snake.

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#3933778 - 09/14/09 07:40 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: rb7764]
headsRtails Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
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Loc: Lake Palestine, TX
My first thought is copperhead...it is alittle off color.
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#3933786 - 09/14/09 07:42 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: headsRtails]
mev002 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
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Loc: Midland, TX
no idea, but really cool lookin snake.

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#3933806 - 09/14/09 07:46 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: Parkenstein]
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The coloration is fascinating...

It's definately a pit viper and one to be avoided, IMHO.

If not a Copperhead, then what?



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#3933815 - 09/14/09 07:47 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: rb7764]
David Lee Offline
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No rattles so it aint a rattlesnake. Must be a copperhead. Kill it.eeks
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#3933974 - 09/14/09 08:15 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: B_vandy]
bikeman Offline
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Registered: 08/11/09
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Loc: Aledo Texas
Any chance its a hybrid? I have been hunting snakes my whole life
( for profit) and have never seen anuthing like this?
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#3933994 - 09/14/09 08:19 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: bikeman]
Parker S. Offline
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where is the snakemaster when you need him? i grew up dealing with copperheads and i've never come across one with that kind of color.
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#3934032 - 09/14/09 08:26 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: bikeman]
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Loc: East Texas
Originally Posted By: bikeman
Any chance its a hybrid?

apparently there are , cottonmouth x copperhead = cottonhead
there are pics here (but none that look like your snake )
http://exoticanimalforums1.freeforums.org/copperhead-x-cottonmouth-hybrids-t1137.html
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#3934033 - 09/14/09 08:26 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: Parker S.]
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Loc: Prosper, TX
Unfortunately this snake's head met up with a 2" ball attached to a trailer hitch. Too bad, good looking snake.

The colors are pretty amazing.
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#3934058 - 09/14/09 08:32 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: David Lee]
jkmccoy Offline
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Registered: 06/19/05
Posts: 136
Loc: San Angelo, TX
The color pattern is unusually bright, but that is a juvenile broad-banded water snake (Nerodia fasciata confluens. Here's a picture with similar coloration (although yours is brighter) - broad-banded watersnake picture

This is definitely NOT a copperhead (Agkistrodon contortrix)or a water moccasin (Agkistrodon piscivorus). The head scalation is not correct. Head shape is not correct. Pupil of eye is round. Scales are too weakly keeled. A copperhead or water moccasin this size would have a bright yellow or green tail. Tail shape is not a widely useful character for snake identification.

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#3934252 - 09/14/09 09:04 PM Re: Baby Copperhead? Baby Water Snake? What kind is it??? [Re: jkmccoy]
JDB3 Offline
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Registered: 03/31/09
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Loc: Flower Mound TEXAS
you do realize, where there is one...........

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