any rod will work almost. But is it suited for carp/buffs over catfish, prolly not.

Check the Bank Fishing Systems (BFS) website. They have some very affordable rods that are specificaly designed for carp and buffs. I just got in 3 of the 12 foot extreme distance carp rods. They look great, can't wait to get on the water with them.

I made the mistake of getting fiberglass rods like the one you linked. They are durable, but heavy. BFS rods are carbon blank and much less heavy.

Curt , I've used a lot of fiberglass rods and the weight has never bothered me.

And I'm looking for something with stainless steel eyes to use with braid.

Youth is a wonderful thing.

Whether braid will hurt ceramic eyes is a matter of much discussion. I have used braid for years and have never had a problem with damage to ceramic eyes.

why even use braid? 90% of us use 12# mono on our carp reels.

Ok I guess I won't use braid and I'll just get this one.

http://catalog.catfishconnection.com/itemdetail.php?itemnumber=UCCA1180

not if you plan on using spin cast reels

Who said any thing about spincasting reels ?

If you want a cheap shorter carp style rod get a 9' ugly stick lite, but I can almost bet you will be upgrading to proper carp rods within a year. Save yourself the trouble and expense and just get carp rod(s) now......... Black Phantoms are $25 , hard to beat that price

lol..I think the best rod for fishing carp is a ....CARP ROD

I forgot to say this will also double as a channel cat rod.

wasent there a post on this same discussion.

king kat rod cabelas, 20 bucks, great deal great rod, cant go wrong, or black phantom rods 12ft 2.25tc rod, just because it is for carp doesent mean you cant use it for kittys, we all catch kittys while carp fishing, you cant avoid it. most of us use mono cause it gives a little, braid works too, i use it on my king cat for chumming, hasent cut a eye yet and im casting more than 6 ounces.

Ok I'll try the KK's.

You use Braid on your king cat for WHAT?!?!?

ill be getting some Black Phantoms as soon as i can, im looking into switching into full euro mode guys

hahaha , I hope he mistyped.

Get the 10' king kats. Even if you upgrade you will still be able to use it for a spod rod.

Doesn't that hurt?

I'll be getting the casting model which is 9'.

When i get my phantoms one day, i already have my 10ft king kat! Courtesy of Curt407, thanks man!

i use the rod for throwing method balls out or throwing a spod out, and for a marker rod, i used the braid on it only. when your useing it for a marker rod the braid help in feeling the bottom out for weeds,rocks,drop offsm ect,....

just got a 12 ft black phantom, very nice for the price

Look into the Schlöngenhüffer line of rods, I believe they come from Germany.

last week on the TFF someone said:

"I have had no less then three people pull up and park against my hitch when parked backwards in the stalls at walmart. "


It is getting ugly around here.........

fixed. lol

as much as it was quoted, it really isn't

haha yeah lol whats done is done

lol

That is why I always hit preview and proof read everything I post so things like this don't happen lol.

I didn't even bother reading the 4 pages...just get a carp rod why spend money on something that is not meant to do something when you can spend your money on something that is...

What about the Cabela's predator rods ? They seem to be the only casting euro style rods I could find.

Just about any long flimsy rod is good. The important piece is the reel. You must have a nice smooth drag and I don't recommend putting any more than about 6 lbs of pressure on the fish or you will rip the hook out a lot.

The predator rod are ok and used by many. I've heard they break so be ready to take em back for a replacement.

Take it easy with em and watch out when you are casting a method feeder. All around a good starter rod imo.

I'd still get the king cat salt striker combo...

I did that a while back. It's fun to "tackle" something new!!
ROFL. Could not stop myself.

They also make the KARPFENFLUHTE a musical instrument known as the carp caller

I'll probably get the king kats first and upgrade to the predators later on unless I find some other euro rods that come in casting models.

I'm still trying to figure out why almost none of the euro rods come in casting models , are they shunned or heavily disliked in europe or something ?

are you upgrading your equipment ? what were you using before you decided to get new rods ?

A 6'6 pflueger rod(now 5'6 , damn door) with pflueger Criterion mounted on it and a 6'0 ugly stik with a shakespeare reel on it(I'm pretty sure it's a alpha with ugly stik painted on it.).

And both of those were gifts , see I'd stopped fishing about 2 years ago(family needed money so I sold all my rods and reels).

And recently got back into fishing when I got those rods and reels as gifts , if I had an actual choice I wouldn't of got those rods and reels.

I'm not sure if I want just any "long flimsy rod" , I want something that won't easily break and will take abuse.

The ugly stick lite would fit your rod that would take abuse. I think that they make them in a longer 9ft type version. I have several 7 ft lites and really like them, especially at the barges.

I used the spinning rods even with bait casting reels. Have had no probelms to date. Mounted bait casting reels on my new 12 ft Euros. Haven't had them out yet.

Really ? I've never tried that but I'm sure that would cut down on your casting distance.

I can't tell. I do not use spinning reels. The world casting record was set with a bait caster I think. Also, the wider eyes on the spinning rods allow the line to cast with less resistance.

I can bomb them out there far enough with this set up.

it don't matter what rod & reel you have ... if all you're gonna do is talk about it ... any rod & reel you have on hand would work better than not going fishing at all ... i have caught carp as long as i have been fishing ... back in the 60's & 70's, let me tell ya i didn't have anything special in the way of equipment

Well said

I go back to the day of the Zebco 33 and 5 1/2 foot rods and caught double digit carp with them. All that matters is desire and opportunity.

Agreed.

I have been carping almost three years now and I still only use about 50% "Euro" gear and the rest is still my old bass setups. I am thinking about replacing my bass rods though as they are medium heavy rods with very fast action tips. I have to keep my drag set pretty light to not have hook pulls close in.

But any gear you have will do. You just have to be aware of the limitations of your setup (i.e. compensate a lighter drag for a stiffer rod, etc.). But don't let that discourage you from fishing for carp. You don't NEED carp gear, it just makes things easier.

Plus you feel cooler (or "stupider," depending on whether you catch).

Too true!

LOL, the most exciting carp I have caught in the last couple of years was caught on a tiny treble hook using bread. The rod was an old 5 ft piece of junk and the reel was a zebco 33 with a drag that didn't work. I had to run back and forth away from and toward the water vs using a drag in order to keep it from breaking off. That rod was supposed to catch a bluegill but somehow a carp found it.

do you use trebles now?

are using trebles no longer in vogue?

we don't like the use of trebles because they can become a death rig if it catches all three sides and the line breaks and the fish has to die a slow death cuz it can't eat. plus you will catch more fish using single hooks.

This might sound to the uninitiated like pro-carp propaganda, but it is TRUE!

I learned this the hard way when starting out. I was losing a lot of fish to hook pulls (like about 25%) using trebles with dough bait and couldn't figure out why.

I decided to give single hooks a try after reading about their benefits online and that number of hook pulls went down drastically and I never went back.

I think that trebles, in addition to being dangerous to small-mouthed fish, are just too "busy" in that they don't give good enough range of motion when initially hooking the fish, especially carp where the initial hook penetration is very important due to their soft fleshy mouths.

yeah we need to vilify those that still use the dreaded treble

No need to vilify those who use treble hook, any more than it is to vilify those with liberal political ideas....

Good point. It's almost like one hook on a treble hook can't penetrate deeply because the opposite hooks are also trying to penetrate, so instead of a good hookset you often wind up with two or three of the hooks on a treble hook being hooked just a little bit. (How many times did I use "hook" in that sentence? )

I think I'll take Curt's advice and get a black phantom and put a baitcaster on it.