Hey guys, found this video on youtube shows some carp getting hooked while feeding underwater. Its a pretty cool video i think, but there is one thing that im hoping some of the more experienced carpers could shed some light on. In the beginning of the video you see four different fish come and suck up the hook bait and eject it immediately, then the fifth fish comes along and finally gets hooked. How would i prevent that from happening to me, why were the fish ejecting the hook/bait without getting hooked?

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that just happens...probably more than any of us know

Very glad you found this video because it shows what I said earier
Big carp ALWAYS seem to avoid getting hooked while they are taking the free offerings without any problems
The only thing you can do about it ( in my view) is start prebaiting up over a very long period of time WITHOUT FISHING IT!!!
Its called "the baiting pyramid "gougle it up MIKE WILSON had a nice articel about it
What happens is when you bait up smaller carp and bigger carp moove in and the bigger carp just look what happens with the small ones
If you catch a small one the bigger ones get very wary about taking the hookbait and only play with it
This is going on all the time and the biggest fish of the lake almost never get caught
So prebaiting, prebaiting fish a few times and prebait again
AND HOPE THE BIG ONE MAKES A MISTAKE!!!
The more the big one can eat and dont see other carp getting hooked the more likely its going to make that mistake
But it takes hard work and a lot of fishing hours to get to that point

This is also why I use big boilies to baitup and fish with
The small carp very soon finds out that they can not get this big lump to the back of their mouths so they just leave it for the bigger carp
The bigger carp are used to crack the real big mussels in the back of their mouths and dont see a negative effect because small ones dont bolt away in panic
So it becomes more easy to catch them but ofcours you get the dumb big ones first....some big fish are just stupid
Other big fish are not...its very hard but thats why specimen hunting is so great
If it was easy it would not be so great to do

FYI these videos are made from Jerome one of the past CAG presidents. Good stuff

very interesting video, I have never seen carp actually feeding before, they for the most part seem disinterested in the bait, it looks like corn on the hook.

this video goes to show you just how important rigs and bait presentation are

you guys need to watch the Korda underwater videos as well

Ive watched korda but its difficult to understand what they are saying sometimes with those accents, lol.

I am going to say that with a split ring or some tubing he would have hooked up much sooner

if you watch on the second one he dose use some tubing and hooks up the first fish

I see what your saying with the tubing Zach, but would shortening the hook link have the same effect?

no the problem is if you watch the bait gets sucked up and it turns away from the hook point at the hook gets caught between the hook and the hair by adding a moving ring IE a anti-eject rig it keeps the hook point at an angle so its much more likely to make contact with the fishes mouth. See my really poorly drawn illustration.

You foreigners need to learn English! LOL

Very informative videos

love the drawing zack

yes i have 1-6 on the underwater sets, very very good.

+1

Is the "anti-eject rig" the same as a "blow-back rig"?

yes pretty much one has some stiff rig on the hooklength over the eye of the hook making it bend but they both use the ring

So, can someone describe in detail a good, basic-but-effective carp rig? What type of hook, hook link material and length, heatshrink or not, rings, weight, safety clip, anti-tangle tubing or leadcore, etc. as needed for a blowback rig or other rig? I'm interested in knowing the details of a solid rig that can be used in most circumstances.

NICE VID

The problem is not the rig... its the bait!
Grains of corn have all the same size and weight So carp get used to sucking them up using the same power to suck them up
If there is a hookbait of corn it behaves different so carp gets wary
Use different size bait and weight and carp dont notice the hook and rig
Thanks for responding to the baiting pyramid guys it was great

Leo,
If that was the case then why once the rig was changed but the bait remained the same he got 2 hook ups on the next 2 fish that come along, our fish here never see corn this was filmed on the potomic river where there are *millions* of carp and maybe 30 guys that fish it go watch the video again and at 1:41 you can see the rig fails and it dose this over and over again had it had a ring on it or some tubing the hook up ratio would have gone WAY up. The fish here done even seem to mind that there is a line dropped striate down in there feeding zone they could careless since they are not scared of line I don't thing they have learned to feed on corn with out getting hooked