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#3640973 - 06/30/09 01:05 PM Replacing emergency brake
scott01 TFF Celebrity Registered: 06/07/02 Posts: 6360 Loc: Bedford	How difficult is it to replace the emergency brakes on a 2002 Chevy Silverado? I took the truck in for inspection today and they passed it although my emergency brake doesn't hold properly. I tried it on the boat ramp and it's pretty much useless. I can change regular brakes with no problem so I was wondering how much more is involved to do the emergency brake. What all has to come off beside the rear wheels? Also, if anyone has had theirs done at a shop, what sort of cost would I be looking at? Still trying to decide if I want to do it myself or pay.
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#3643244 - 06/30/09 10:05 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: scott01]
lureklr Outdoorsman Registered: 06/25/09 Posts: 117 Loc: cypress tx	you have an adjustment in them sounds like you have disc brakes well disc over drum lay under the truck (with it off) have some one push the e brake and find the cable there should be a adjustment in itjust make it tighter no too tight or when your on the ramp it could pop loose so make the pedal tight and you will be good if that doo not work let me know _________________________ if work is so easy then im going fishin
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#3643847 - 07/01/09 06:28 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: lureklr]
Markk Extreme Angler Registered: 03/12/07 Posts: 1812 Loc: Flower Mound, tx	Those suburbans had a very badly designed emergency brake. There was a good thread on this on TFF some time ago but have not found it. There is a new part for those emergency brakes. Dont think they called it a recall. _________________________ Old Skeeters never die...they just catch more fish! 1993 ZX175
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#3644231 - 07/01/09 08:52 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: Markk]
cuevl Pro Angler Registered: 09/07/07 Posts: 811	I'd be interested to know about the e-brake problems, I have an 02 Silverado.
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#3644702 - 07/01/09 10:29 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: cuevl]
Markk Extreme Angler Registered: 03/12/07 Posts: 1812 Loc: Flower Mound, tx	There was a good thread here on TFF about a year back but Ive gone back and looked through all my posts. Its gone. I recall there was talk about a redesigned part (probably standard if you buy the parts today). Also a lot of complaints about the design period. Probably get a lot of info off general GM forums as well. _________________________ Old Skeeters never die...they just catch more fish! 1993 ZX175
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#3644924 - 07/01/09 11:16 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: Markk]
scott01 TFF Celebrity Registered: 06/07/02 Posts: 6360 Loc: Bedford	Thanks, I will check it out this weekend and have the wife push the pedal down to see if I can adjust it. If it doesn't adjust, I will just take it apart and replace the assembly.
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#3644932 - 07/01/09 11:18 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: Markk]
BigPoppa Pro Angler Registered: 05/31/06 Posts: 525 Loc: Plano, TX	You will probably have to replace the rear rotors. The parking brake is a drum brake inside the hat of the rear rotors. The problem is, if you don't use your parking brake frequently the shoe gets out of line and then wears a groove into the drum surface. Its hard to explain but because of the groove, you can't get the rotor over the parking brake shoe and then have enough adjustment to get the parking brake to hold. I was never able to find anyone that could turn the inside of the rotor. New rotors were only about $35 each if I recall. I ended up replacing the parking brake shoes, rotors and new pads since I got new rotors. Once you fix it just remember to set your parking brake every night. It recenters the shoe in the drum and will greatly lessen the chance this will happen again.
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#3645284 - 07/01/09 12:42 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: BigPoppa]
scott01 TFF Celebrity Registered: 06/07/02 Posts: 6360 Loc: Bedford	Thanks for the info
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#3646013 - 07/01/09 03:18 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: scott01]
cuevl Pro Angler Registered: 09/07/07 Posts: 811	My 02 has disc breaks all the way around
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#3646115 - 07/01/09 03:36 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: cuevl]
scott01 TFF Celebrity Registered: 06/07/02 Posts: 6360 Loc: Bedford	They do hav disc brakes all the waya round but the parking brake is a separate unit. From the reports above, it looks like a drum type brake on the inside of the rear rotor (disc rotor). I'll have to tear it apart to see.
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#3646621 - 07/01/09 05:42 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: scott01]
lureklr Outdoorsman Registered: 06/25/09 Posts: 117 Loc: cypress tx	is same unit the drum is the inside of the disc and they dont come off easy well they can be a pain hit the drum part of the disc with a hammer not the disc but the drum all the way around and it should come off _________________________ if work is so easy then im going fishin
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#3649860 - 07/02/09 03:02 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: lureklr]
30ft jon boat Pro Angler Registered: 09/04/07 Posts: 854 Loc: lost	i worked for a gm dealer for 7 years..heres the deal from mid 99 till mid 06they had a 1 piece e-brake on the rear disc the piece that holds the shoe to the backing plate was not large enough and let the shoe pivot forward wearing it to metal in 03 gm came up with a new designed retainer it works great..the bolts on the caliper have lock tight on them and are hard as he11 to get loose once the caliper is loose the drum can be a chore but trust me you can get it off persistance is the key..as far as the large groove the shoe made install the rotor on the axle backwards that will hold it take a grinding bit put it in a drill and grind the drum lip flush KEEP IN MIND THIS IS AN E-BRAKE THE VEHICLE WILL NOT BE MOVEING WHEN YOU APPLY IT SO YOU DONT NEED A SMOOTH SURFACE..just a surface that will make contact...be carefull when pulling the shoe the adjuster will fall out..good luck
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#3649953 - 07/02/09 03:19 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: 30ft jon boat]
scott01 TFF Celebrity Registered: 06/07/02 Posts: 6360 Loc: Bedford	Thanks for the advice and it sounds like I might have to bite the bullet and take it in for repair. I thought it might be any easy fix but would hate to start on it and find out I can't get this thing apart, plus I'm a little skeptical when it comes to grinding on things. Any idea what a dealership would charge to repair (hours labor)?
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#3654531 - 07/03/09 11:28 PM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: scott01]
lureklr Outdoorsman Registered: 06/25/09 Posts: 117 Loc: cypress tx	yeah your first born child. please do not take it to a dealer find a shop with a good rep it will save you some cash _________________________ if work is so easy then im going fishin
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#3655008 - 07/04/09 07:36 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: 30ft jon boat]
joebass2 Extreme Angler Registered: 12/11/04 Posts: 2240 Loc: Lewisville, texas	Originally Posted By: ROOKIE 07 i worked for a gm dealer for 7 years..heres the deal from mid 99 till mid 06they had a 1 piece e-brake on the rear disc the piece that holds the shoe to the backing plate was not large enough and let the shoe pivot forward wearing it to metal in 03 gm came up with a new designed retainer it works great..the bolts on the caliper have lock tight on them and are hard as he11 to get loose once the caliper is loose the drum can be a chore but trust me you can get it off persistance is the key..as far as the large groove the shoe made install the rotor on the axle backwards that will hold it take a grinding bit put it in a drill and grind the drum lip flush KEEP IN MIND THIS IS AN E-BRAKE THE VEHICLE WILL NOT BE MOVEING WHEN YOU APPLY IT SO YOU DONT NEED A SMOOTH SURFACE..just a surface that will make contact...be carefull when pulling the shoe the adjuster will fall out..good luck Good explanation and info. I have a 2001 Tahoe that had the same problem. Luckily, ours went bad at about 30K miles and was replaced under warranty. No problem since.
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#3663923 - 07/07/09 11:29 AM Re: Replacing emergency brake [Re: 30ft jon boat]
PaulGrapevine TFF Celebrity Registered: 04/02/08 Posts: 5905 Loc: Grapevine, Texas	That is the best explanation I have ever gotten for what is wrong. I have an 01 Silverado with a manual transmission. I set my break everytime I get out of the truck. I had mine in 3 time under warranty and 2 times after warranty. They finally got it right. They told me that there was a problem where the pad would come out of adjustment. I guess they finally developed a fix. I have noticed that they always pop the clutch at the inspection place and make sure my brake will hold. They told me once that most of the GM trucks E brakes don't hold and they have to fail them. _________________________ Sig under construction
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