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#2721952 - 10/10/08 03:18 PM Does McCain REALLY want to win this election?
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Anybody else see this on FOX? They had video of McCain at a townhall meeting in Minnesota. Evidently, one of the folks in the crowd was being critical of Obama. McCain told them that Obama is a "decent man"...."you don't have to be scared of him being President". I may not have the quote exact there...but there was no mistaking that McCain evidently thinks that he and Obama just have some disagreement on some fundamental things.

Now...McCain doesn't have to get into the rah-rah stuff with these folks....but he went way overboard in being nice.

I've said it before. John McCain is the second coming of Bob Dole. He's Bob Dole #2.

It completely disgusts me that this is what we ended up with for a candidate to run against Obama. I truly believe that ANY of the other candidates who ran could do a better job in this race than McCain is doing. He is not trying to win. He is trying not to lose.

What a disgrace.

He really doesn't deserve the job if this is the best he can do.
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#2721958 - 10/10/08 03:20 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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Maybe it's the ED medicine.

Seriously, I agree, it's really frustrating watching this campaign. Like I said before, it's like watching a wreck in slow motion. All they have to do is attack the issues, they've been saying it all along. Throw in his anti-American ties and it should be a no-brainer. I don't get it either.

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#2721963 - 10/10/08 03:24 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: TheBassKing]
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In my opinion, stick a fork in him......he's done.

It's going to take a miracle....and I mean a miracle for him to pull this out.

I feel bad for Palin that she has hitched her wagon to this turkey. If I were her, I'd give serious consideration to pulling out, packing my gear and head back to Alaska.

Heck...I may even move there myself. I want to get as far away from these pinheads as I can.
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#2721971 - 10/10/08 03:27 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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Really, all they've done is hurt her. The talking points they give her make her look stupid at times. They filled her too full of what to say instead of letting her be her. The times she has been herself, she's done well. To mean it seems he picked her because she's green and he knew she wouldn't buck him and just say what he wants her to say. It ain't working that's for sure.

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#2721988 - 10/10/08 03:33 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: TheBassKing]
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#2722012 - 10/10/08 03:46 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: TheBassKing]
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I agree that McCain is to passive and doesn't really want this thing (POTUS). I saw the same thing on FOX. The reporter said you could hear a pin drop in the place after he said that.


I do think we may have a set-iup for Palin in 2012 if the country survives Obama and his socialism, tax assault, allowing takeover of the country by enemies from within and foriegn.

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#2722024 - 10/10/08 03:49 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: RayBob]
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No, he's only trying to get in Sarah's p...s
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#2722045 - 10/10/08 03:55 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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Originally Posted By: badkarma
In my opinion, stick a fork in him......he's done.

It's going to take a miracle....and I mean a miracle for him to pull this out.

I feel bad for Palin that she has hitched her wagon to this turkey. If I were her, I'd give serious consideration to pulling out, packing my gear and head back to Alaska.

Heck...I may even move there myself. I want to get as far away from these pinheads as I can.


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#2722050 - 10/10/08 03:57 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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You guys ready to wave the white flag?


Edited by barndoor (10/10/08 03:57 PM)
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#2722055 - 10/10/08 03:59 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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Originally Posted By: Bigbob_FTW
would you want to be president right now? whip


Good point! laugh hammer
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#2722067 - 10/10/08 04:04 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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Originally Posted By: badkarma
In my opinion, stick a fork in him......he's done.

It's going to take a miracle....and I mean a miracle for him to pull this out.

I feel bad for Palin that she has hitched her wagon to this turkey. If I were her, I'd give serious consideration to pulling out, packing my gear and head back to Alaska.

Heck...I may even move there myself. I want to get as far away from these pinheads as I can.


If she did that she would be the target of a witch hunt!

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#2722072 - 10/10/08 04:05 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: RayBob]
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Originally Posted By: RayBob
I agree that McCain is to passive and doesn't really want this thing (POTUS). I saw the same thing on FOX. The reporter said you could hear a pin drop in the place after he said that.


I do think we may have a set-iup for Palin in 2012 if the country survives Obama and his socialism, tax assault, allowing takeover of the country by enemies from within and foriegn.


I really, really have my doubts that the republic will survive. I don't mean that the USA will stop existing as a country, but that it will be so fundamentally changed that I am genuinely concerned that we will never recover the freedoms we will lose during an Obama administration.

Think about it. He will almost assuredly have a super-majority in the Congress....filibuster proof. Which means the Dems will ram through ANYTHING they want........fairness doctrine, gun-control/confiscation, etc. ,etc.

And what's worse......Supreme Court justices that will thwart any challenge to the junk that the Democratic Congress and Obama push through.

The nationalization of the financial industry over the past few weeks is just the beginning. We are being taken over by Marxists and a shot has not been fired.

Once they regain power, I'm convinced that the Socialist Democratic Party will do ANYTHING to retain it. ANYTHING.

Palin running in four years will be a moot point. It will be a sham election. She'll never have a chance.
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#2722077 - 10/10/08 04:08 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: barndoor]
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Originally Posted By: barndoor
You guys ready to wave the white flag?


No...McCain is doing that quite nicely all by himself.

If you want to know what I will do.....read Atlas Shrugged.
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#2722079 - 10/10/08 04:09 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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He also said that Obama IS NOT AN ARAB!!!

Thank you John McCain. You will at least now lose with some amount of respect.
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#2722087 - 10/10/08 04:11 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: AustinMark]
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As for Palin, she'll never make it out of the Primaries. You neocons are very good at personal attacks, and there are so many that will leveled against her that she will not even be a blip on the radar.
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#2722096 - 10/10/08 04:15 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: AustinMark]
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Originally Posted By: AustinMark
He also said that Obama IS NOT AN ARAB!!!

Thank you John McCain. You will at least now lose with some amount of respect.


I didn't have a problem with that one. The woman was not speaking the truth and he was right to correct her.

But I'm not referring to that particular video.

I've never said McCain was not honorable. I'm saying that I'm not convinced he wants to win badly enough. He sure doesn't act like it.
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#2722098 - 10/10/08 04:16 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: AustinMark]
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Originally Posted By: AustinMark
As for Palin, she'll never make it out of the Primaries. You neocons are very good at personal attacks, and there are so many that will leveled against her that she will not even be a blip on the radar.


It's a moot point. The country has fundamentally changed....and not for the better.

May your chains rest lightly upon you....comrade.
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#2722130 - 10/10/08 04:32 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: badkarma]
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Originally Posted By: badkarma
Originally Posted By: AustinMark
As for Palin, she'll never make it out of the Primaries. You neocons are very good at personal attacks, and there are so many that will leveled against her that she will not even be a blip on the radar.


It's a moot point. The country has fundamentally changed....and not for the better.

May your chains rest lightly upon you....comrade.


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#2722144 - 10/10/08 04:41 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: RayBob]
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McCain wants to be a "Gentleman" not President.

He is going to get his wish.

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#2722152 - 10/10/08 04:43 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: a777pilot]
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Originally Posted By: a777pilot
McCain wants to be a "Gentleman" not President.

He is going to get his wish.


I think he wants to keep some of the respect he has gained over all these years, and does not want to throw it away on the lies of the Karl Rove machine.

I applaud you John McCain!
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#2722156 - 10/10/08 04:45 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: AustinMark]
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I do have some form of respect for McCain. You guys wish McCain would get dirty and nasty, but that is not his style. Kuddos to McCain! thumb


Edited by barndoor (10/10/08 04:46 PM)
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#2722171 - 10/10/08 04:52 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: a777pilot]
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Originally Posted By: a777pilot
McCain wants to be a "Gentleman" not President.

He is going to get his wish.


I think some of his people told him he had to have the Independents to win, so he is playing nice, while he loses his base--SAD..
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#2722172 - 10/10/08 04:52 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: a777pilot]
badkarma Online   content
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Originally Posted By: a777pilot
McCain wants to be a "Gentleman" not President.

He is going to get his wish.


Yep. Well said.
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#2722189 - 10/10/08 05:00 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: kingdad101]
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Originally Posted By: a777pilot
McCain wants to be a "Gentleman" not President.

He is going to get his wish.


I think some of his people told him he had to have the Independents to win, so he is playing nice, while he loses his base--SAD..


Well....I don't think he'll lose his base. But I think he is mistaken if he thinks he's going to win independents using this strategy. People are not attracted to weakness. They are attracted to strength. McCain, whether he intended to or not, essentially said that an Obama Presidency would not be such a bad thing. "you don't have to be scared of an Obama Presidency" I think is what he said. Well....then what earthly reason would an independent have to want to vote for him? If Obama is nothing to be scared of, then why not vote for Obama? He's younger, he looks better, he's more eloquent.

Instead, McCain condescendingly patted his supporters on the head and told them to not get excited. Indeed. He certainly isn't getting excited, is he? Yes sir. That's inspirational leadership. barf Had I been at that meeting I would have walked out at that point.

I'm sticking with Ron Paul. He doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning. But you know what? At this point, neither does McCain.
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#2722192 - 10/10/08 05:02 PM Re: Does McCain REALLY want to win this election? [Re: barndoor]
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Originally Posted By: barndoor
I do have some form of respect for McCain. You guys wish McCain would get dirty and nasty, but that is not his style. Kuddos to McCain! thumb


Please. Don't patronize us and knock off the fake sympathy. It's totally unconvincing.
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