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#2710819 - 10/07/08 03:30 PM RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ??
papa peck Offline
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Sweden on Sept. 8 announced plans to cut the corporate tax rate from 28% to 26.3% in 2009 in a bid to improve the business climate.
HERE

Corporate tax rates in other european countries. Ireland leads the way lower, attracting businesses and jobs and lowering unemployment.

EUROPE

It is interesting that if Obama gets his way he will raise corporate taxes while all of europe is lowering their rates - realizing they need to attract business. Raising corporate taxes will drive more business and jobs overseas and who can blame them (the corporations). It seems the Europeans get it and we don't. Maybe it will take 4 years for us to see just how effective raising taxes is going to be on getting the economy back on track.

I don't know about you but I do not want to lose my job because the president raised taxes on corporations. How is that going to help anybody? Please explain.

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#2710826 - 10/07/08 03:32 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
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Papa....you need to understand the liberal mindset. They genuinely believe that they can tax their way to prosperity.

After all, in their deranged minds, taxes are only government's way of taking what always was government's. If you subscribe to the theory that the government owns everything, then taxes don't seem quite so onerous.

For a grin, try to figure out how they blame businesses and republicans for moving offshore, yet they cannot figure out the simple truth that having the second highest corporate taxes in the entire world plays a major role in driving business away. These supposedly intelligent liberals just can seem to connect the dots.


Edited by Pilothawk (10/07/08 03:34 PM)
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#2710827 - 10/07/08 03:33 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
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not only that....after the business' have gone and unemployment skyrockets he will implement his healthcare plan..which will cost BILLIONS every month....whos gonna pay for it?
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#2710830 - 10/07/08 03:33 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
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Higher corperate taxes = higher consumer prises. The consumer pays twice. That is the Dems. way.
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#2710833 - 10/07/08 03:34 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Deputy Angler]
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well he has failed to explain that
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#2710837 - 10/07/08 03:35 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: C-Man]
gregd Offline
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I trust him to only take water from the other side of the bucket. My side will be fine!!!

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#2710840 - 10/07/08 03:36 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: TexDawg]
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poles show the sheeples are blindly following him, because hes not a republican.....

this is going to be a lesson in "be careful what you wish for"

desperation and anger result in irrational decision making...its a decision they will regret!
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#2710851 - 10/07/08 03:39 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Deputy Angler]
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It is not a decision. The jaywalkers have done no thinking about it at all. They will not check into what the man has done, what he stands for, or what he proposes to accomplish.

We will long suffer for their indolence.
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#2710858 - 10/07/08 03:42 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Deputy Angler]
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Yes it don't take too much common sense to see why companies move. Libs blame republicans and unions when the taxes are one of the biggest reasons.

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#2710864 - 10/07/08 03:45 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: TexDawg]
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If they lowered corporate taxes in order to get more businesses and the jobs they bring with them - wouldn't we be better off? Instead we are going to force those jobs over to Europe.
Talk about a huge sucking sound. This is like watching a person committ suicide - in this case - a country.

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#2710885 - 10/07/08 03:50 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
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Not Europe....operations costs way too high. Think third world.

Your point is well taken. Yes, we would be better off lowering taxes and encouraging businesses to manufacture here, and employ Americans. That is not however, the democrat way. They have a well documented philosophical anti-business bent. They think business is evil, capitalism is wrong, and greed/taking advantage of workers is what business is all about.

In their perfect world, government would control businesses and thus all the revenue. Workers would not need much because all needs would be met by government. They think they are smarter than we....and they alone should determine how capital is spent.

For more, pick up a copy of the works of Karl Marx. Their plans and beliefs are all outlined there.
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#2710935 - 10/07/08 04:04 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Pilothawk]
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no, keep letting them gouge the public to build profits & create jobs.
then when they are about to go under bail them out with more taxes from middle class Americans

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#2710942 - 10/07/08 04:05 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: butch sanders]
John175 ® Offline
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
no, keep letting them gouge the public to build profits & create jobs.
then when they are about to go under bail them out with more taxes from middle class Americans
Only the rich will pay for it.
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#2710953 - 10/07/08 04:07 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: John175 ®]
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how

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#2710955 - 10/07/08 04:08 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: butch sanders]
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it just amazes me how far apart people are on the understanding of economics.
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#2710963 - 10/07/08 04:10 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: butch sanders]
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
how
Ask Obama. He has a special way of discerning between rich dollars, middle dollars and dollars from people who don't pay taxes.
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#2710967 - 10/07/08 04:12 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: John175 ®]
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i'm all ears Deputy

i guess all the bail outs that happened recently, didn't really happen

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#2710977 - 10/07/08 04:13 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: John175 ®]
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Ha...Obama thinks he can cut taxes of sheeple who don't pay taxes. That's just stupid.
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#2710992 - 10/07/08 04:15 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: butch sanders]
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
i'm all ears Deputy

i guess all the bail outs that happened recently, didn't really happen


you are correct and they were voted on by both democrats and republicans the majority of both....the Dems had oversight and ignored the problems....thats what we need.

economics 101: give business the opportunity to thrive...thereby creating JOBS, stimulating the economy, opening the market for competition and prices drop....everyone wins!
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#2711025 - 10/07/08 04:23 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Deputy Angler]
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DA...not their style. They think that if you allow business to flourish someone will get rich. They hate that. Instead they want to raise taxes on business and make all of us dependent upon government. After all, that is what they are all about.
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#2711560 - 10/07/08 06:20 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: butch sanders]
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Butch - 95% of Americans did not want the bailout and congress passed it anyway. That's no reason to shoot ourselves in the head by driving companies away. Would you raise taxes if you knew you would lose your job just so you could get back at those evil companies? I don't like a lot of things the company I work for does, but I am smart enough to know that driving them out of business is not in my best interest or the best interest of my co-workers. If you want to drive someone out of business you ought to concentrate on Congress.

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#2711630 - 10/07/08 06:37 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
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Unions, which are notoriously liberal in political thought, have done just what you suggest Papa. In the rust belt where I one lived, they would destroy the company that employed them, then whine like baying hounds at the lack of jobs. I have seen signs that stated they would rather have no job than take a reduction to make the company competitive. Company locked the gates, and moved to mexico.

Evil company? Stupid union?
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#2711636 - 10/07/08 06:39 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: Pilothawk]
papa peck Offline
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INSANITY

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#2711644 - 10/07/08 06:41 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: papa peck]
Pilothawk Offline
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speaking of insanity....what are all these so called "Green jobs" of which Obama speaks?

Anyone have any numbers on how many new so called green job slots might be available in our near future? This, to me, just sounds like a bone tossed to the looney left in the PRC.
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#2711683 - 10/07/08 06:50 PM Re: RAISE TAXES ON CORPORATIONS ?? [Re: armadillo joe]
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Originally Posted By: armadillo joe
Yes it don't take too much common sense to see why companies move. Libs blame republicans and unions when the taxes are one of the biggest reasons.


UNIONS????? The libs love unions. The libs hate any republican and anyone of faith.

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