#2709966 - 10/07/0811:29 AMObama just does not know?
TIM CLINE
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Obama had dealings with Resko but he did not know what type a person he was? Obama has dealing with Aiers(sp) but did not about his past or what type of person he was? Obama has sat in a in church for 20 years under Rev. Wright but did not know anything about his hatred for this country? Obama has a keating 5 scandal memeber of his camp? Obama has ties to L. Fariacan(sp) but he does not know about his hatred for this country? Obama thinks the Germans were the victims of WWII? Obama's VP thinks is patriotic to pay more taxes? Obama think our troops are air raiding villages to kill women and children? Obama has recieved more money from Fannie and Freddie mac tahn any other politican except one? Obama cheif financail advisor is the one who sank Fannie?
There are many more question. The main one is if Obama did not know anything about any of this what else does he not know and what does this say about his judgement? I do not think the American people can take the chance that Obama does not know and I do not know is not an answer as Commander and Cheif neithr is voting present. Obama needs to come clean on his past it is obvious to me he is either is lying or his judgement is even worse than "W".
That's why I know I'm voting for the friend of the working man, Billy Jack.
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That's why I know I'm voting for the friend of the working man, Billy Jack.
chuck norris versus billy jack....who wins?
Billy Jack if Chuck dresses in a redneck sheriff's uniform
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what if chuck norris and billy jack both delivered a round house kick to you at the same time. Would it create a black hole? Would you be knocked into the middle ages?
Billy Jack is a Green Beret Vietnam War veteran, hapkido master, gunslinger with 2000 years of Commanche blood flowing through his veins. He's used to vanquishing white devils!
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#2710057 - 10/07/0811:56 AMRe: Obama just does not know?
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Yea and just this morning his camp. Mgr says their stance is Obama did not know about Aiers. Wow is all I can say. Can we afford this guy as the President.
maybe we can Chuck and Billy to run on a ticket to together.
I'll run this up the flag pole at the reservation and see if anybody salutes it.
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Acorn Obama, knows nothing of all the people around him, Ayers... Rev Wright.. Penny Pritzker... Michelle Obama ..Tony Resko.. but he does know me and what I need from him?? he knows how to lower taxes, and run a war ??..he don't know Jack..someone else is pulling his strings and they hate America..
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It is very unlikely that he could qualify for a security clearance. Further, it is almost assured that he would not pass the investigation requisite to holding a commission as an officer of the United States.
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Originally Posted By: Pilothawk
It is very unlikely that he could qualify for a security clearance. Further, it is almost assured that he would not pass the investigation requisite to holding a commission as an officer of the United States.
Don't think he could be enlisted either. At least not in the Air Force.
#2710949 - 10/07/0804:06 PMRe: Obama just does not know?
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Originally Posted By: TIM CLINE
Obama has a keating 5 scandal memeber of his camp?
Might want to rethink that one. McCain WAS one of the Keating five.
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It is very unlikely that he could qualify for a security clearance. Further, it is almost assured that he would not pass the investigation requisite to holding a commission as an officer of the United States.
He has been on the Foreign Affairs Senate committee. Also the Homeland security and Homeland Affairs committee. No security clearance needed there.
Obama has a keating 5 scandal memeber of his camp?
Might want to rethink that one. McCain WAS one of the Keating five.
you might want to rethink that,John Glenn, who NOW works for Obama was a 5 er,and paid a hefty fine, McCain was only found to have used bad judgment,no fine no nothing..but I guess facts mean little to you..
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Liberal - say no more.
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BTW.. in light of committee appointments having been mentioned, Barack Obama is Chair of the Subcommittee on European Affairs. In two years, do you know how many meetings the junior senator from Illinois has called?
Someone guess.
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BTW.. in light of committee appointments having been mentioned, Barack Obama is Chair of the Subcommittee on European Affairs. In two years, do you know how many meetings the junior senator from Illinois has called?
Someone guess.
If I was married to that angry woman he is, I'd want a European Affair too..
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Yep, except that he was not present. In two years as a US Senator, he has walked the halls of the Senate some 145 days. Present? I don't think so.
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Obama has a keating 5 scandal memeber of his camp?
Might want to rethink that one. McCain WAS one of the Keating five.
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It is very unlikely that he could qualify for a security clearance. Further, it is almost assured that he would not pass the investigation requisite to holding a commission as an officer of the United States.
He has been on the Foreign Affairs Senate committee. Also the Homeland security and Homeland Affairs committee. No security clearance needed there.
his past indescretions and associates would diqualify him from FBI,CIA, Local/state and Federal Police work, High level military security clearances etc...
he gets a pass because he is an "elected" official!
#2718763 - 10/09/0805:49 PMRe: Obama just does not know?
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Originally Posted By: Pilothawk
BTW.. in light of committee appointments having been mentioned, Barack Obama is Chair of the Subcommittee on European Affairs. In two years, do you know how many meetings the junior senator from Illinois has called?
Someone guess.
Yes, I know. And the reason. "The subcommittee has not met since the appointment of Senator Obama as chairman, because Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the full Foreign Relations committee, has been holding those hearings himself."
THINK now. IF it was substantial do you think that message would not have been massaged by McCain?
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You think....
One's takes over a committee and never so much as holds an organizational meeting. Nothing. Never once met.
Present.
Do we need a president who does not do his job and when faced with the tough questions, votes present. Now think...why would an elected official vote present? Do those who elect him send him to represent their views and interest, or merely to show up? Present? YGBSM.
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"The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[54][53] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[7] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[57] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[7]"
McCain has admitted what that what he did was the wrong thing to do....even though he committed no illegal acts.
Barrack Obama has yet to admit that his association with William Ayers or the years he spent sitting at the feet of a racist minister like Jeremiah Wright even indicated poor judgment. Obama has yet to acknowledge his deep involvement with ACORN and has downplayed his association with Rezko.
#2718905 - 10/09/0806:17 PMRe: Obama just does not know?
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Originally Posted By: Pilothawk
he gets a pass because he is an "elected" official!
Or because the authority making that decision is you? At the very least some investigation from other than the internet and right wing conservatives might be prudent here?
I know you don't see the truth. Only the bad side but in reality what EXACTLY do you know about Obama that would disqualify him?
Implied knowledge in this matter is not acceptable, just like in real security clearance. PS, I had a govt security clearance and went through that process. In the aviation industry believe it or not.
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I do know that he has admitted drug use marijuana up to cocaine.
That alone would have disqualified him for a security clearance when I was working at the top secret and above level.
Long term associations with admitted terrorists would not be looked upon favorably by the NSA.
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#2719081 - 10/09/0807:09 PMRe: Obama just does not know?
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Allison1
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Originally Posted By: Pilothawk
I do know that he has admitted drug use marijuana up to cocaine.
That alone would have disqualified him for a security clearance when I was working at the top secret and above level.
Long term associations with admitted terrorists would not be looked upon favorably by the NSA.
Did you know that acid use is allowable under FBI standards today? I heard that from some law enforcement guys. I think it was described as "recreational use" when younger.
Please define long term associations with terrorists. While they both worked on school reform they met at a luncheon? That sounds bad. They had 12 meetings as boardmembers for a non profit anti-poverty group. Now theres a national danger. Lastly there's the 200 dollar donation Ayers made to Obama's campaign. That has to send up warning signs.
"The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him.[54][53] McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising "poor judgment" when he met with the federal regulators on Keating's behalf.[7] The report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."[57] On his Keating Five experience, McCain has said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[7]"
McCain has admitted what that what he did was the wrong thing to do....even though he committed no illegal acts.
Barrack Obama has yet to admit that his association with William Ayers or the years he spent sitting at the feet of a racist minister like Jeremiah Wright even indicated poor judgment. Obama has yet to acknowledge his deep involvement with ACORN and has downplayed his association with Rezko.
Pay attention to the highlighted area, its is the base of Ayers Motivation for entering into the education....an attempt to create young radical revolutionists by getting them when they are still vulnerable to influence!
That is exactly what the radical education reform he and Obama were pushing in Chicago....not anything out and out apparent..start by planting tiny seeds...seeds that wont be immediately noticed...
In the 1960s and 70s, he was a leader in the notorious underground terrorist group, the “Weathermen.”
The Weathermen declared war on the United States government and they bombed over 30 establishments (leading to multiple fatalities, including police officers).
Obama’s friend Bill Ayers
“Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” William Ayers Ayers is unapologetic about his terrorist activities.
Incredibly, on Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers is quoted by The New York Times as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs … I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Obama remained friends and cohort with Ayers after that comment was made
How could a man like Obama associate with such a dangerous radical? And even defend him?
And now Obama, Ayers friend, could be sitting in the White House next year.
Statements made in 2001 Chicago Magazine reported that "just before the September 11th attacks," Richard Elrod, a city lawyer injured in the Weathermen's Chicago "Days of Rage," r