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#2623421 - 09/07/08 02:45 PM
Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/You say what you will.. I'm not convinced and this could be a problem. Sure he'll say he mispoke.. He mispeaks alot.. I've never mispoke that. That's a pretty "oops" mispeak. "Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come." Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, "Christian faith." "My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time." Asked to comment on the accidental misstatement illustrating the difficulty of the issue, Obama spokesman Bill Burton offered this comment: "I'm not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times."
Edited by Wylie Crappieman (09/07/08 02:46 PM)
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#2623439 - 09/07/08 02:51 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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If it walks like a muslim and it talks like a muslim...
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#2623450 - 09/07/08 02:53 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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You'll never convince me that he's not a muslim. How did he come up so fast out of nowhere, scares me with his ties to the preacher, and the real estate mongo, just a few things for starters
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#2623455 - 09/07/08 02:55 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Babel]
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well i myself have spent my whole life as a Musli...er..uh...Christian....yeah Christian.....thats the ticket!
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#2623460 - 09/07/08 02:56 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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You'll never convince me that he's not a muslim. How did he come up so fast out of nowhere, scares me with his ties to the preacher, and the real estate mongo, just a few things for starters while Resko and Wright bother me, Ayers scares me even more!
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#2623497 - 09/07/08 03:06 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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For me Ayers should make it obvious to anyone.. How people don't see all the red flags and not be able to make the right choice, blows me away. It is irresponsible to even entertain the election of this guy. Give me just one real reason to consider him... What does he bring to the table? It's like, you see the train coming, and you are just sitting on the tracks. MOVE!!! For me to ever mistakenly say "my muslim faith" would be like me forgetting that I don't kiss men. Or John McCain forgetting that he WAS a POW! What a dunce!!! EVERYONE LOOK AT THE DUNCE!!! you don't want to be a DUNCE do you? PALEEAASE!!!
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#2624382 - 09/07/08 08:24 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Wylie Crappieman]
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It's insane all the corruption that has followed this man. But, we had that with the Clinton Crime Family and that sucker got elected twice. All though I don't remember Willy associating with terrorist....except that one time he could have gotten one but let him go. Thank you for that one by the way.
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#2624391 - 09/07/08 08:30 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: TheBassKing]
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This is ridiculous and undermines the entire Right position and then, by proxy, undermines the entire Republican/and-much-more-Conservative position. I'm on-board with with you Wylie 99.9 percent of the time. Just not with this.
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#2624392 - 09/07/08 08:32 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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#2624416 - 09/07/08 09:12 PM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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This is ridiculous and undermines the entire Right position and then, by proxy, undermines the entire Republican/and-much-more-Conservative position. 
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#2624520 - 09/08/08 02:49 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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I do have a problem with him personalizing it with "my" muslim faith. He could have just as easily said the muslim faith which would have shown he feels no personal connection to it.
I have enough problem with his Christian faith by his choice of continuing his membership in Rev. Wright's church. You do have to choice to change churches or to basically fire a pastor who is not teaching what the membership feels is the gospel.
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#2624525 - 09/08/08 02:57 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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1st of all, I took nothing out of context. in no way did he mean to say what he did. Nor do I think he meant to say it. You can make all the excuses you want, and justify it all you want. The fact remains he said what he did, and only after Step, corrected him, did he quickly say "my christian faith". How does any of that undermine anything. Someone said it was rediculous for me not to be convinced that he isn't muslim. I am not convinced, and he has done nothing to firm it for me. He leaves family in a hut, and talks about what he is gonna do for me? Can't convince me that he is for me at all. This continues to come up and I can tell you, it hasn't been "vetted" well enough for me. He said what he said. Allison, stop trying to tell people how the world works. Stop trying to tell me what Obama means. If you are even slightly leaning toward voting for this guy, then you have very little chance of convincing me of your rationale. Not that you are trying to. But, if it turns out that this man is a Muslim and he is elected, then it is too late.
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#2624616 - 09/08/08 04:20 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Allison1]
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if Palins daughter and Mccains houses are fair game then why shouldnt this be.
Frankly none of it should, however i beleive obamas "faith" to be contrived, regardless of what faith it is. I believe his true feelings about things are very dark and well disguised.
But the simple slip of the tongue in this case is just that, a slip of the tongue. This alone holds no merit, but in combination with many other things does lend itself to a greater belief about Obama is presenting himself to be someone he is not!
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#2624723 - 09/08/08 05:08 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Allison1]
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You don't comprehend very well.
I comprehend exceptionally well. I find the POTUS a postion that doesn't lend itself to his sort of mispeak. If everytine he mispeaks, someone rushes in to sure up his meaning, then it is obvious to me, that he is not in control of his own positions. Whether he is Muslim or not isn't the point. It is that he claims feverishly not to be as if that were some handicap, and in the next minute cahole's to them. Comprende? The more he says on his own, the more obvious it becomes that it is irresponsible to vote for him. Oh, by the way, I also know what the meaning of "is" Is. He either is, or he isn't. Is he? So it depends on who's "is" you use, I suppose. To "is" or not to "is", is that the question? I personally think he has Muslim roots. I have seen over the last several years, good reason not to want one in the Whitehouse. Pay more attention to the bigger picture, and not the one that is magnified in front of your face. There are much greater ramifications than just a BJ in the Oval Office.
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#2624728 - 09/08/08 05:12 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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Did he or did he not say in his book, that when push comes to shove he would "Stand with his Muslim brothers"
At least that's what I heard--anyone care to debunk that little tidbit of written word??????
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#2624749 - 09/08/08 05:22 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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Did he or did he not say in his book, that when push comes to shove he would "Stand with his Muslim brothers"
At least that's what I heard--anyone care to debunk that little tidbit of written word?????? You are correct! Something else, when Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Louis Farrakhan, Bashar Assad, Jeremiah Wright, Vladimir Putin, William Ayers, Hu Jintao, Jacques Chirac all voice support for Obama.....theres a need for concern!!!
Edited by Deputy Angler (09/08/08 05:22 AM)
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#2624886 - 09/08/08 06:25 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Deputy Angler]
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Did he or did he not say in his book, that when push comes to shove he would "Stand with his Muslim brothers"
At least that's what I heard--anyone care to debunk that little tidbit of written word?????? You are correct! Something else, when Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Louis Farrakhan, Bashar Assad, Jeremiah Wright, Vladimir Putin, William Ayers, Hu Jintao, Jacques Chirac all voice support for Obama.....theres a need for concern!!! That's the part that sticks out for me. Name one of these people who has America's best interest at heart? Not one and they support this guy. What doesn't add up there?
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#2624954 - 09/08/08 06:52 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: John175 ®]
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his entire run for President gives you pause.. The man lies and try's to cover up his deceit--Kinna like a cat covering up his deposit. A lot of similarity here wouldn't you say..
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#2624957 - 09/08/08 06:53 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
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I want answer about that too. Why was he in Pakistan?
We know he has Indonesian citizenship and that is why he could get an Indonesian passport, but why was he in Pakistan?
Pakistan sounds like a nice place for him to meet his muslim bros.
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#2624968 - 09/08/08 06:58 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: TexasBlonde]
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I like this comment from someone who posted on that story...
"Consider B. Hussein's most recent slip along with his prior confusion about the number of states in the union. Hussein mixed up the number of muslime countries (57) with the number of states in the union (50.)
So, when he has a momentary lapse of truthfulness, and refers to his "Muslim" faith, it is simply his human need to be truthful about who he really is.
Nevertheless, let's not get too far off on a tangent. This race really boils down to a contest between a Marxist/Fascist on the Democrat side and a Fascist/Conservative on the Republican side."
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#2625183 - 09/08/08 08:06 AM
Re: Obama: "My Muslim faith"
[Re: Wylie Crappieman]
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My sweetheart and I were watching the broadcast live. There was no doubt that Obama let out the gaffe of the campaign when he said “My Muslim faith.” I reached for the TIVO to rewind the broadcast to hear it again because I was hoping that he was finally coming clean with his good friend George Stephanopoulus.
Good ole George, former Clinton Whitehouse Communication Director and Senior Clinton Political Campaign Advisor, immediately showed his true colors. Instead of being a reporter and appropriately saying, “Sir, can you elaborate on your statement, ‘My Muslim Faith?” which would have given the candidate a chance to either correct his statement or better yet confirm that he was giving George the story of the year, instead George CORRECTED Obama and said, “your Christian faith.” Since when does a journalist correct a candidate’s statement?
George is a Rhodes Scholar and was salutatorian at Columbia, the same Ivy League college where Obama attended. While we all know how well George did at Columbia, unfortunately Obama’s transcript is sealed and the Obama camp will not release it. George graduated from Columbia in 1982, the same year that Obama enrolled at Columbia shortly after returning from visiting his Muslim family and friends in Indonesia and Pakistan traveling on his Indonesian Muslim passport.
George went on to Oxford where he was awarded a master’s in theology. His father was a Greek Orthodox Priest and dean of Holy Trinity Cathedral in NY. George seems like a good guy at heart and eventually deserted Clinton shortly after his 1996 re-election. George noted in the memoir that he wrote after he left the Clinton administration his internal conflict and stated that the pressure of conveying the Clinton message caused him to break out in faces hives.
I suspect that poor George’s face is once again swollen up this week with hives… Journalist and even the Sunday talk hosts shouldn’t bail out politicians regardless which party they’re from. The American people should be able to determine if Barack Hussein Obama II is a Muslim like his daddy, step daddy and family or even if this close association is appropriate for POTUS or not...
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