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#2570721 - 08/21/08 04:11 AM
Computer nerds------Vista Question?
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I want a new computer. Can't afford it but I want it.
I have hear nothing but bad news about Vista. Wondering if Microsoft has patched it enough to make it civilized.
My concern is that it does not support some of the programs that I run.
I know there are other choices; Mac, unix, or xp. But I dont know if Mac will support at least one program I use all the time.
Any comments on Vista?
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#2570726 - 08/21/08 04:14 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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My mom has it on her laptop and it seems to be fine...I prefer XP...
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#2570734 - 08/21/08 04:18 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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Keep the old computer. Dump the dialup and spend your money on a faster connection.
What is the program you need for Windows?
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#2570770 - 08/21/08 04:40 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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Got everything I need for windows
For yahoo chat I use Ytunnellpro to control the porn ads.
I understand that Vista wont support it.
Heard unix has lot lest attacks from viruses and a free download but dont know what will work of not work on it.
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#2570799 - 08/21/08 04:49 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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Keep the old computer. Dump the dialup and spend your money on a faster connection.
What is the program you need for Windows? A faster pc will not seep up your internet, It will only speed up things running on the PC itself. I am not a Vista user but with XP you can run a program in a previous OS or in 16 or 32 bit mode and I would thing that Vista would have the same option.
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#2570809 - 08/21/08 04:57 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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But I dont know if Mac will support at least one program I use all the time. What is the program that you use all the time? TFP
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#2570815 - 08/21/08 05:01 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: FishingPhysicist]
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I do two things on a computer yahoo chat and TFF
Yahoo companion program is Ytunnellpro.com which give me more control of the content of yahoo.
It is not compatible on Vista.
I also play music on Yahoo Chat which Vista does not support.
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#2570840 - 08/21/08 05:13 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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If you just chat and come here, what you really need is a faster connection. Check out pandora.com for music over the Internet.
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#2570967 - 08/21/08 06:04 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: Streater]
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Registered: 04/22/02
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I have a laptop with Vista, it has 4gb RAM....it runs ok, don't like it, but it runs. I dual booted it with Linux, so, when I'm not feeling like running Micro$oft, I use Linux.
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#2571086 - 08/21/08 06:57 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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I do two things on a computer yahoo chat and TFF
Yahoo companion program is Ytunnellpro.com which give me more control of the content of yahoo.
It is not compatible on Vista.
I also play music on Yahoo Chat which Vista does not support. You can play music on Yahoo chat. Vista does support it. I'm listening to country on it right now. Vista supports alot more than you think it does. I have not had many problems with it. The only thing I could not get to work was a few games for my kid and the Lowrance demo. Lowrance is upgrading there system and it will work soon with Vista.
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#2571088 - 08/21/08 06:58 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: _nvatexan_]
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Registered: 11/18/03
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor
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#2571159 - 08/21/08 07:25 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: barndoor]
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Registered: 04/22/02
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor That's funny, XP is still not bug proof.
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#2571227 - 08/21/08 07:47 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: FishingPhysicist]
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Registered: 03/16/04
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vista runs just fine.
i've had it installed on my computer since 2 months before it was released. I have rebooted my computer 1 time.
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#2571262 - 08/21/08 08:01 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: barndoor]
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Registered: 11/09/04
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor I think Dell is was the last company that gave you the option of getting XP on a new pc and now they have went to Vista as well. Just make sure that what ever you get and you want to go to XP that you can get the drivers for it.
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#2571279 - 08/21/08 08:05 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: _nvatexan_]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 11/18/03
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor That's funny, XP is still not bug proof. I don't recall saying it was bug proof.
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#2571372 - 08/21/08 08:29 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: C-Man]
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Registered: 03/11/05
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor I think Dell is was the last company that gave you the option of getting XP on a new pc and now they have went to Vista as well. Just make sure that what ever you get and you want to go to XP that you can get the drivers for it. if you look on sites like cdw you can still find computers with xp.
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#2571446 - 08/21/08 08:54 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: barndoor]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 04/22/02
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Vista still have alot of bugs in it. This is the reason why we are still running XP at our company. Give it 1-2 years and Vista will be bug proof.
barndoor That's funny, XP is still not bug proof. I don't recall saying it was bug proof. The way it was said, makes it sound like XP is bug proof and Vista will be as well. Chill.
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#2571456 - 08/21/08 08:57 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: bjfowle]
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 1556
Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
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I've had Vista since March on a new HP with 4GB ram and a quad core processor and no problems. As much as I hated the security control (yes I know I can over-ride it), it hasn't given me any reason to. I was also able to re-load a few Win 2000 programs and they ran fine. So, I am fine with it. I let the Windows Defender run and update it regularly and also run Kaspersky anti-virus. You don't even know it is there. I use all Microsoft Office applications, Engineering CAD and some Music software and no problems........so far...............
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#2571550 - 08/21/08 09:23 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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Have xp on two desk tops and vista on my lap top love vista and have had zero problems, can't wait to get all my computers on vista. I think the problems with vista now is people don't want anything different. Love vista handling of pictures much better than xp.
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#2571796 - 08/21/08 10:27 AM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: SEV]
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Getting proper drivers can be an issue. You definetly have to know where to look. But most stuff operates in the same manner. The 32bit version is a bit more friendly. I personally think it is a good OS, visually stunning, and more secure. It is just really ahead of the hardware available. I didn't like how Microsoft dumped it on the users to debug it for them either. It is quickly becoming a favorite of mine.
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#2572481 - 08/21/08 01:20 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: nax]
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Registered: 12/19/06
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I actually thoroughly enjoy Vista now. I have the 32 bit Ultimate version. I started with just 2 gigs of RAM and it was still slow. I'm up to 8 gigs now and it's just fine. My performance score is 5.8. I've had it for about a year now and I actually think it has crashed LESS than my XP Pro box has in the past year (yes, it still crashes... it IS Microsoft afterall). Not to be critical or anything, but isn't 4 GB the max amount of ram that 32 bit Vista supports? You'd have to be using 64 bit Vista to notice a difference. I could be wrong, but it's something you might want to look into.
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#2572545 - 08/21/08 01:40 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: nax]
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I read in an industrial trade magazine that Microsoft is working on the next operating system called 7(?). The name has a 7 in it anyway. The supposition is that it will blow Vista away on performance. Guess its a Vista with all he bugs fixed and a lot more. Don't remember that much about the article, just something I read while sitting on the throne.
The Dell Desk Top I have is comletely adequate and rally not much wrong with it. I surely do need to upgrade to a satellite or a Broadband Air card to elevate the speed and considerably lessen my frustration.
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#2572627 - 08/21/08 01:56 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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I am using a $500 desk top with 80 gb hard drive and 512 gb memory on dial up. Got a few glitches after three years of hard use and slower than the seven year itch.
Me upgrading to a laptop is like you guys paying $300 for a fishing pole. What I have works, but I want something better.
The last brochure I got from Dell shows a laptop with a 3GB memory, 160 GM harddrive, dual core processor (dont know what that is but it sound good), cd/dvd creator and player,Vista Home Premium, SP1, bult in web cam, and a flip 30 minute video camcorder for $700.
For $1100 I can go to 3GB memory and 320 GB hard drive (also include a verizon aircard).
For $1200 It goes up to a 4GB memory and 320 Gb harddrive
I donot know hw that compares to Mac, but I am going to research them next.
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#2572840 - 08/21/08 03:16 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: Bob Davis]
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+1.
I was concerned about Vista when I bought my laptop but that is what it came with. I have not been disappointed. Other than the week and a half boot up time, it has been stable.
It is a memory hog....two Megs minimum, but I would not be concerned about using it. If you have old peripherals, you might have to download drivers....
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#2572986 - 08/21/08 04:15 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: soonerfan]
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I have several computers running XP and have had no problems. I'm not a Microsoft hater, so I'm always anxious to use their new stuff. I have two computers running Vista. I would bring one serious problem to everyone's attention. One of the two Vista machines was running great (about two months old), everything working properly, then two weeks ago my printer no longer works. You get a "print spooler failure" message, when you try to print.
There seems to be no fix for this. Microsoft is well aware of the problem, but have not made a fix.
You can "google" Vista print spooler problem" and see the discussions about it. It has nothing to do with the make of printer. It's a Vista problem. My other Vista machine works great so far.
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#2573035 - 08/21/08 04:37 PM
Re: Computer nerds------Vista Question?
[Re: grandpa75672]
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Registered: 03/28/02
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I am using a $500 desk top with 80 gb hard drive and 512 gb memory on dial up. Got a few glitches after three years of hard use and slower than the seven year itch.
Me upgrading to a laptop is like you guys paying $300 for a fishing pole. What I have works, but I want something better.
The last brochure I got from Dell shows a laptop with a 3GB memory, 160 GM harddrive, dual core processor (dont know what that is but it sound good), cd/dvd creator and player,Vista Home Premium, SP1, bult in web cam, and a flip 30 minute video camcorder for $700.
For $1100 I can go to 3GB memory and 320 GB hard drive (also include a verizon aircard).
For $1200 It goes up to a 4GB memory and 320 Gb harddrive
I donot know hw that compares to Mac, but I am going to research them next.
Go to Dell's outlet site. They have some good deals, and may even still have a few refurb machines with XP on it. These have the same warranty as a new PC. I've had a Optiplex for over 3 years with absolutely no problems, and just bought a new Inspirion 530. It was a little over $600 dollars including tax and shipping. 2.66 ghz Core2 duo 320gB HD 4GB ram 512mb Video Card dual dvd burner Vista Home Ultimate NIC card and a bunch of other bloatware that I have already deleted. I meant to tell you that you might download CCleaner and install it and run it. It'll get most PCs running a lot faster. It cleans out all of the temp files, and straightens out your registry. It could just be that you are still using POS dial up.
Edited by JDavis7873 (08/21/08 04:39 PM)
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#2573951 - 08/22/08 03:30 AM
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