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#2566994 - 08/19/08 08:44 PM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
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Kelly you and Dave quit all this Pizz'n and Moan'N ..OK? hammer
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#2567010 - 08/19/08 09:07 PM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
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Thanks for the edit Bazz, but at least I saw enough to know where I stand.
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#2567013 - 08/19/08 09:10 PM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
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sorry Charlie... aint that the ole sayin? sucks this site has a leach or 2... TFF's almost been bled dry...
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#2567030 - 08/19/08 09:29 PM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: K.D.]
senko9S Offline
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Originally Posted By: K.D.
Thanks for the edit Bazz, but at least I saw enough to know where I stand.

holdin hands is good in a pond hopper i guess... what the heck sides are you ytring to take? don't you you know youre calling friends out on the spot??? hammer it explains internet sense.... btw, hows your tube holdin up?
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#2567075 - 08/19/08 10:17 PM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: senko9S]
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I aint taken any sides here because I'd share a boat with both of you any time.. Yall just need to Kiss and Make up! nuts
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#2567156 - 08/20/08 02:48 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
RayBob Offline
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I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now!


And it wass my understanding that moving a bait with the electric motor was legal on the upper level pro circuits.



For the record (whatever that is)I use the technique frequently but look for the right wind more than using the trolling mtr.. But I ain't at the same skill level as y'all. It is an excellent strategy for younger kids too, which I have. The technique is tailor made for some of the big flats/long points on Rayburn. Thanks for the article Bazz!

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#2567211 - 08/20/08 03:41 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: RayBob]
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We use the strolling, dragging technique quite a lot actually.
If I'm going with a lite wind I prefer to call it a DRIFT..
I will set up drifts over ledges, humps or points to quickly search out the hot spots..
Now if I'm going into the wind that would be classified as strolling or dragging... David, it is very legal and a good way to cover ground effectively, I always keep several buoy's handy to pitch out when a strike is detected or a fish is boated.. You can blame RMAX for teaching me that, he's real good at it.. That's how he won the McDonald's two years ago...
By the way Senko's it's real nice to see your back on line brother... Kay and I need a trip to Falcon if your up to it?

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#2567360 - 08/20/08 05:14 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: K.D.]
TexasMood Offline
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Originally Posted By: K.D.


Strolling as I understand it is making a cast with a crankbait then using the trolling motor to move the boat further away from the cast. Your reel is in freespool until you stop the boat then you crank the bait. You can triple or even further increase the distance of your retrieve this way.


You're right KD, this is strolling. Jay Yelas introduced me to this technique. He has caught some big ones doing this. You can also greatly increase the depth of your deep diving crankbait by increasing the distance of your retrieve....
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#2567396 - 08/20/08 05:29 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
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No, K.D. is correct. Strolling is casting something like a DD22 alond a ledge or some similar structure, and then using your trolling motor to move out further with your reel in freespool. I saw the pros using this techique on fork during the PAA tournament and some times they would have a bass on 100 or more yards out. It just gives you the opportunity to make longer retrieves and keep your bait in the strike zone three or four times longer. Perfectly legal technique

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#2567506 - 08/20/08 06:15 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: yamaha runner]
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I have read in several places that strolling is simply using a trolling motor (not combustion motor)to drag ANY lure. I have seen a rule against it in the Wednesday night tourneys at Joe Pool, but nowhere else. Not that I fish tourneys like some of yall tourney fishermen.
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#2567536 - 08/20/08 06:24 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: water_surge]
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Strolling is using the trolling motor to drag or move ANY bait with the trolling motor. FLW has made it a point in all their tournaments to state this is a NO NO and you will be DQ'd for doing it.

I made a rule in the WTTT trail that you can not "Stroll" hard baits such as crankbaits or spinnerbaits. But, you can stroll a plastic worm. With the power these trolling motors have now, you can actually go the same speed as the big motor in idle speed. So, this would account to trolling. Trolling motors used for strolling are kept at a low speed and are basicly used to keep the boat pointed in the right direction when drifting with the wind. This is a big "grey" area, as you could say anyone was strolling when they use the trolling motor to turn the boat while drifting a plastic bait in the wind. So, to keep from everyone filing a protest on what they considered to be a questionable use of the trolling motor, I allow strolling of plastics.

This is a great way to catch fish in deeper water on O.H. Ivie and Amistad. I was shown this technique a long time ago by a friend. When things get slow and you want to move out deep and locate some fish, this is a proven technique. It really does work great on Amistad grass.
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#2567550 - 08/20/08 06:29 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: The Hag]
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My apologies to everyone having to read this little tiff. I should have never bitten when the bait was tossed out. The comment about "sorry you're new to the term" was the right bait at the right time. hammer

sorry for the mess I left.
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#2567552 - 08/20/08 06:30 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: water_surge]
Jason Hoffman -- Lake Fork Guide Offline
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Strolling is casting your bait out and using the trolling motor to let out as much line as you can and then reeling your bait in.

Trolling is using the big motor to actually move your bait (just like the walleye fishermen do up north). Now days, you could actually use your trolling motor instead to move the bait fast enough.

Both of them are done quite a bit on Lake Fork by some of the guides although they don't talk about it on their reports for some reason. Personally, I don't care for either, but I especially dislike trolling because you're not actually having to work the bait or set the hook yourself. All you have to do is reel a fish in, and that's not really the point of fishing for me. I understand why some do it, and it's a technique that definitely catches some giant fish, but it's not for me. To each his own I guess.


Edited by Jason Hoffman -- Lake Fork Guide (08/20/08 06:31 AM)
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#2567556 - 08/20/08 06:30 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: K.D.]
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I like to frolic on the points and humps.
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#2567563 - 08/20/08 06:34 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: The Hag]
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I know rules are rules and all that, but in general, as long as you are catching fish with an artificial lure, I don't see why it matters if you are using your arm, the wind or a trolling motor. Seems silly to be so technical, the rule should be, catch fish with an artificial lure and that's that. It makes no sense that you can go 5 mph across the lake with the wind pushing you and dragging your lure, but you can't go 5 mph across the lake with a trolling motor pushing you and dragging your lure. It's silly to me.

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#2567584 - 08/20/08 06:40 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Goat Farmer]
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Someone must have been beaten by someone who was doing it and griped to a someone who led the trail that was the losers best friend that had it happen to his brother one day on a different tournament when he was beaten by a guy who was in the lead by an astronamical spread because his trolling motor was a 456# 72 volt that would run 25 mph.
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#2567681 - 08/20/08 07:17 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Huckleberry]
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
Someone must have been beaten by someone who was doing it and griped to a someone who led the trail that was the losers best friend that had it happen to his brother one day on a different tournament when he was beaten by a guy who was in the lead by an astronamical spread because his trolling motor was a 456# 72 volt that would run 25 mph.


That's the way it always works. It's fine until someone gets there panties in a bunch.

I can see having a rule against using the combustion motor, but I don't see why any trail would make it illegal to use your trolling motor to advance a bait. I don't if that's all a guy does, if that's how he fishes, who care?
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#2567695 - 08/20/08 07:20 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Huckleberry]
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
I like to frolic on the points and hump water buffalo.


Hey, me too
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#2567797 - 08/20/08 07:47 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Manchu]
Lucky Al Offline
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Registered: 08/17/04
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I agree with the goat farmer. What's the BIG DEAL? If I fish an FLW tournament (and I won't anymore, since it's too expensive and I don't have a new Ranger) I won't stroll with the TM.

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#2567825 - 08/20/08 07:55 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Lucky Al]
Tbendfishing Offline
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Registered: 07/03/08
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Loc: Toledo Bend
If in doubt, consult with the TD prior to the tournament and get his opinion, since he will be the one to determine whether you have a legal or illegal sack of fish. different tournaments , different rules.

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#2567873 - 08/20/08 08:14 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Huckleberry]
RayBob Offline
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Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
Someone must have been beaten by someone who was doing it and griped to a someone who led the trail that was the losers best friend that had it happen to his brother one day on a different tournament when he was beaten by a guy who was in the lead by an astronamical spread because his trolling motor was a 456# 72 volt that would run 25 mph.


I don't fish T's but this sounds pretty logical ... this deduction is from 52 years of studying human nature!

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#2567882 - 08/20/08 08:16 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: RayBob]
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I drag cuz I'm basically lazy
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#2567963 - 08/20/08 08:31 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Manchu]
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"strolling strolling srtolling, keep them artificial baits strolling...." or something like that.
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#2568275 - 08/20/08 09:45 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bazztex]
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My main reason for draggin, is because i dont like to fight the wind when i fish the main lake especially when its windy.

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#2568832 - 08/20/08 11:59 AM Re: Dragging...Strolling...Drifting...Whatever you call it... [Re: Bassassassin]
RangerGuy Offline
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Loc: Abilene, Texas,
Think about the man or woman who is handy capped and has to use the trolling motor to move the bait. Don't they have a right to fish the same tournament as anyone else????

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