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#2469214 - 07/19/08 04:12 AM California is smarter than Texas
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While I was out in Cali a few weeks back, the hands free law took place (July 1). So people cannot be on the phone while driving, unless they are using a hands free device. And teens are not allowed on the phone period while driving.

I hate to say it, but I love that law. I have been back in Texas for 2 weeks and the number of dangerous or annoying situations that I have witnessed with people on the phone while driving is unreal. And here's the kicker, I work from home, so I commute way less than most of you. I know that NOT all drivers are inconsiderate, distracted, or dangerous while driving and talking on the phone, and yes, hands free devices are readily available. But seems that common sense is not in order for allot of these idiots on the phone.

Also, I don't want to start an uproar with the few woman TFFrs on here, but does it seem that most of these distracted drivers are women?
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#2469222 - 07/19/08 04:19 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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The men only have to scratch and talk on the phone while driving. Women have to put on makeup, do their hair and talk on the phone while driving. rolfmao bolt
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#2469228 - 07/19/08 04:22 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: PhilR]
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Please go into your "edit" function and fix that "smarter than Texas" comment!


Do they have a Castle Doctrine Law? Don't worry ... It'll be here soon enough!

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#2469254 - 07/19/08 04:43 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: RayBob]
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People in California also elect people like Pelosi and Feinstein to congress. I just don't think that shows a bunch of smarts.

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#2469260 - 07/19/08 04:50 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: RayBob]
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Originally Posted By: RayBob
Please go into your "edit" function and fix that "smarter than Texas" comment!


Do they have a Castle Doctrine Law? Don't worry ... It'll be here soon enough!


It can't be here soon enough.
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#2469265 - 07/19/08 04:53 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: armadillo joe]
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Originally Posted By: armadillo joe
People in California also elect people like Pelosi and Feinstein to congress. I just don't think that shows a bunch of smarts.


They also lead the nation in per capita consumption of beer



and wine



and distilled spirits !!!!

Nut
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#2469272 - 07/19/08 04:56 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: Grapenut]
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Originally Posted By: Grapenut
Originally Posted By: armadillo joe
People in California also elect people like Pelosi and Feinstein to congress. I just don't think that shows a bunch of smarts.


They also lead the nation in per capita consumption of beer



and wine



and distilled spirits !!!!

Nut


My "brothers" consume most of that beer, and the people that employ them consume the wine.
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#2469421 - 07/19/08 06:50 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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California drivers are a lot more courteous on the road than Texas drivers. There are so many more people; they have to be.
They do things like use their turn signal, allow people to merge into a lane, keep to the right if going slower than traffic etc. It makes things a lot less stressful.
I agree that cellphone use while driving can be hazardous. I believe Highland Park and University Park have the same hands-free law.

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#2469425 - 07/19/08 06:55 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: DYOLLP]
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it should be law everywhere, i have been to several accidents where the person at fault was on the cell phone and not paying attention. Whats even worse are the texters.

I have pulled over many people under suspicion of DWI, only to find out they were on the phone or texting. Some were weaving so bad they went completely into oncoming lanes!!
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#2469432 - 07/19/08 06:58 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: DYOLLP]
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Been a long time since I have been to Cali - but with any major metropolitan area, you are going to have nut jobs on the road. And yes, from what I have seen - women are the worst with chatting on their cell phones and such. I'll be behind a car going 10 miles below the speed limit wondering "what the he**" - move over and sure enough, it's a female chatting on the phone.

I only use my cell in the car if it's ABSOLUTELY necessary. Everything else can wait till I get to my destination. I'm not concerned about my driving - it's everyone else on the road.

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#2469441 - 07/19/08 07:02 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: Deputy Angler]
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The shame of it is that some people can talk on the phone and drive at the same time, but I have seen a lot of people trying to drive while yacking and it's as though they are actually not even in their vehicle at all. About 80% of the time there's someone holding up traffic and seems to be unable to accelerate when the light turns green, it's some pinhead talking on a phone.
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#2469466 - 07/19/08 07:19 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: dogsdad]
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about 75% of the time, I will pull off the road and talk, I do a lot of driving and a lot of talking in my business and, I have gotten to where, I just pull off the road into the ditch.


When I do take a call, while driving I put it on speaker and set it on my console so I dont have to keep it held up to my ear, I found that after long periods of time, my hand would fall asleep.

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#2469572 - 07/19/08 08:27 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: LegendRick]
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Well,,,
I think exactly the opposite,,,
First off if you state that Californians are smarter than Texans,
but you live in Texas, then you just confessed that you aren't smart enough to make that call.
Since they are smarter , they should be the one to judge.
Which is actually your second strike, the first being not croaking for your own pond.
Strike three comes in the form of giving up. You see I am convinced that Texans are the smrter of the two and to lend evidentiary support to this all you need do is decide who should tell you when to talk or when not to talk.
Should you be from California , and not smart enough to make the decision that in heavy traffic is not a good time to talk on a phone then the State should make the decision for you since you aren't samrt enough.
However in you live in Texas and you know that if the phone rings while you are in bumper to bumoer trafffic, paulling a trailer in, a construction zone, you dan't have to immedialtey answer it since you have caller ID and voice mail, when you get to that stretch between Sonora and Del Rio there will be plenty of time to talk.
I could even give you a fourth strike for establing the pattern that more Government intrusion equals higher intelligence, and since California wants to outlaw all types of firearms that is must be the "smart" thing to do.
Strike five = Everything California does, we must do, because they are "smart".

Just how big an old boy are you anyway!!! rolfmao

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#2469578 - 07/19/08 08:33 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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When cell phones are outlawed, I'll be happy.

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#2469580 - 07/19/08 08:34 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: FishingPhysicist]
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When cell phones are outlawed, only outlaws will have cell phones.
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#2469584 - 07/19/08 08:36 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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#2469595 - 07/19/08 08:43 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: C T]
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illegals and mexico nationals are the ones that get me. was following a guy yesterday that had mexico plates. took him to years to turn, then drove down the middle of the road. i had to go into oncoming traffic to pass him! thats just one of many experiences that ive had behind someone with mexico plates.
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#2469615 - 07/19/08 08:50 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: Dexter Wilcox*]
water_surge Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dexter Wilcox
Well,,,
I think exactly the opposite,,,
First off if you state that Californians are smarter than Texans,
but you live in Texas, then you just confessed that you aren't smart enough to make that call.
Since they are smarter , they should be the one to judge.
Which is actually your second strike, the first being not croaking for your own pond.
Strike three comes in the form of giving up. You see I am convinced that Texans are the smrter of the two and to lend evidentiary support to this all you need do is decide who should tell you when to talk or when not to talk.
Should you be from California , and not smart enough to make the decision that in heavy traffic is not a good time to talk on a phone then the State should make the decision for you since you aren't samrt enough.
However in you live in Texas and you know that if the phone rings while you are in bumper to bumoer trafffic, paulling a trailer in, a construction zone, you dan't have to immedialtey answer it since you have caller ID and voice mail, when you get to that stretch between Sonora and Del Rio there will be plenty of time to talk.
I could even give you a fourth strike for establing the pattern that more Government intrusion equals higher intelligence, and since California wants to outlaw all types of firearms that is must be the "smart" thing to do.
Strike five = Everything California does, we must do, because they are "smart".

Just how big an old boy are you anyway!!! rolfmao


rolfmao rolfmao

I would like to think that I live in the smarter of the two states, but that's just not the case. And actually, I have lived in 4 states, and each one thinks they are the smarter than the rest. And like I said, I would love for common sense to rule the land instead of the guvmt, but that is nowhere near being the case here or anywhere else that I have been to.

As far as how big a boy am I, lets just say you need to pack your lunch, cause its gonna take a while dance2


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#2469695 - 07/19/08 09:33 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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Kalifornia smarter than Texas? In a pig's eye!

I suppose that's one of the reasons that Kalifornians have been emigrating in droves the last 15 years. I think that would be the smart ones, how ever many there ever were. And if all the smart ones are jumping ship, that means Kalifornia's getting dumber by the minute. Any state that can't elect a governor any smarter than "Ahnold" (aka Blaster minus Master) has to have an average IQ in the mid-60s anyway.

Kalifornia---land of the fruits and vegetables!

banana
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#2469706 - 07/19/08 09:39 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: water_surge]
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Do you have any evidence to support you "feelings"?

http://www.people.vcu.edu/~mamcdani/Publications/McDaniel%20(2006)%20Estimating%20state%20IQ.pdf


I have the "feeling" that if all the people who think California is so great would turn in there weapons and move there, it would raise the average IQ of both states.

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#2469714 - 07/19/08 09:46 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: Dexter Wilcox*]
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Originally Posted By: Dexter Wilcox
I have the "feeling" that if all the people who think California is so great would turn in there weapons and move there, it would raise the average IQ of both states.
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#2469788 - 07/19/08 10:28 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: John175 ®]
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Originally Posted By: John175 ®
Originally Posted By: Dexter Wilcox
I have the "feeling" that if all the people who think California is so great would turn in there weapons and move there, it would raise the average IQ of both states.
flehan



Thnaks John---that little gem of Dexter's slipped right past me when I read his post. Your astute powers of observation have made my life richer! And thanks to Dexter too!

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#2469789 - 07/19/08 10:28 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: DYOLLP]
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Originally Posted By: DYOLLP
California drivers are a lot more courteous on the road than Texas drivers. There are so many more people; they have to be.
They do things like use their turn signal, allow people to merge into a lane, keep to the right if going slower than traffic etc. It makes things a lot less stressful.
I agree that cellphone use while driving can be hazardous. I believe Highland Park and University Park have the same hands-free law.


I lived in California over 20 years.

I can count on my right hand and have fingers left over the number of times I saw the type of behavior you described.

Are you sure you weren't just dreaming about California?

No one uses their turn-signal to change lanes in California......not if you actually want to change lanes. If you use your signal to do that you are guaranteed to be cut-off.
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#2469792 - 07/19/08 10:30 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: Deputy Angler]
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Originally Posted By: Deputy Angler
it should be law everywhere, i have been to several accidents where the person at fault was on the cell phone and not paying attention. Whats even worse are the texters.

I have pulled over many people under suspicion of DWI, only to find out they were on the phone or texting. Some were weaving so bad they went completely into oncoming lanes!!


Maybe it should be policed in that way......pull over the drivers that are weaving....driving too slow...obstructing traffic etc., etc.

If someone is on the phone and driving properly...what' the problem?
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#2469799 - 07/19/08 10:33 AM Re: California is smarter than Texas [Re: dogsdad]
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Originally Posted By: dogsdad
Kalifornia smarter than Texas? In a pig's eye!

I suppose that's one of the reasons that Kalifornians have been emigrating in droves the last 15 years. I think that would be the smart ones, how ever many there ever were. And if all the smart ones are jumping ship, that means Kalifornia's getting dumber by the minute. Any state that can't elect a governor any smarter than "Ahnold" (aka Blaster minus Master) has to have an average IQ in the mid-60s anyway.

Kalifornia---land of the fruits and vegetables!

banana


Thank you....I take that as a compliment.
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