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#2469000 - 07/18/08 08:56 PM
Tawakoni is dangerous!
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Green Horn
Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 7
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Hello, pretty new to Texas from Southern California. I hope I'm not beating a dead horse here, but is it me or is lake Tawakoni just flat dangerous to boat on?
My mom was out from California, I convinced her to come out on the boat. She is paranoid and affraid to wreck or drown I told her it's nothing. So I decide to try something new (sick of Ray Hubbard, I live next to it) so I take her out to Tawakoni... I'm cruising on the north north side of the 276 bridge probably about 40mph or so out in the middle several hundred yards from shore and I see something fly by out of the corner of my eye. I look back and it was a huge 6+ inch stump sticking out of the water. I turn forward I look to the left and I see another one... So I instantly pulled back on the trottle and turned around.
When I do my turn I notice another stump right in front of me... like as if I would have slammed into it if I didn't stop and turn. It freaked me out... So I cautiously took off to the other side of the bridge, again open waters, and just felt uneasy. Then look off ahead and I see light colored waters... or something, (probably being paranoid) so I turn around and go right back to the ramp and pull my boat out and headed to Lavon. Figured I'm not ready for that lake. Is it just that poorly maintained and unmarked or what? Every lake I've been to throughout my life if you're out in open water and there is a hazard it's marked long before you get to it.
So does anyone have any tips on boating (fishing too) in this lake or should I just avoid it like the plague and it's nasty Quinland surroundings?
Any info on this would be appreciated.
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#2469008 - 07/18/08 09:17 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: dizplacement]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 873
Loc: Garland
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I don't have much experiance on the north side of 276 but on the south side the timber runs down the middle of the lake so you have to run close to the shore to stay halfway safe. Best thing to do is get a map and take a look at it and watch out for the sandbars and long points that run out into the lake.
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#2469142 - 07/19/08 01:33 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: crankmaster]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 2084
Loc: East Texas
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theres a lot of timber out in the middle on t-wok, like previous post said, best to get good map
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#2469209 - 07/19/08 04:07 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: badassbaits]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 04/10/05
Posts: 24
Loc: Crandall, Tx.
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Tawakoni is a very damgerous lake, but one tht can be learner and enjoyed. Just because it looks clear, doesn't mean that there aren't any obstructions. That goes for most of the lakes in this area. They are mostly formed in areas that are very wooded, when first created they have many stick ups that can be seen. With the thunderstoms bringing straight line winds and tornados these stickups eventually get snaped off right at the top of the water. TFF is a good place to ask about a lake you are wanting to try for the first time, the guys are very open and full of good information that could save your lower unit, boat or even your life.
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#2469507 - 07/19/08 07:34 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: placidpeninsula]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 695
Loc: Nacogdoches
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California is a lot different than Texas when it comes to lake construction. Every lake I fish is full of timber and I like it that way. I do not want to see skiiers or lake flies no where around me. If you do not know a lake it is better to get a map or a guide to show you around.
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#2470834 - 07/19/08 06:32 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: DMFORJC]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 2539
Loc: Bedford TX
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Lots of lakes here have forrests in the middle deep areas. Like they said, research a map before running in a new lake. Lewisville has some real hazzardous areas as well. You should see Fork.  Be careful.
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#2470855 - 07/19/08 06:39 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: bamaboy]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 2084
Loc: East Texas
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man, you shoulda seen some of these lakes a couple years ago, they were real low and trees that hadn't seen daylight since they were impounded were exposed, kinda scary to see some of that stuff 2 foot below where you been runnin wot for years.
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#2470862 - 07/19/08 06:40 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: bamaboy]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 1186
Loc: Princeton, TX
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Years ago, first time I was ever on Tawakoni, it was low. Absolutely freaked at the first sandbar I saw in an area where you'd never expect one. Also the first lake I ever saw Pelicans on. Aboslutely freaked while watching my flasher go from 50 ft. to what looked like 0 ft. multiple times. ( Yes flasher....it was a long time ago.) Absolutely freaked when I got down to the dam, an area that on most lakes you can usually count on being clear, and found a frigging forest!
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#2471129 - 07/19/08 09:39 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: anthonyhicks101]
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Green Horn
Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 7
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Yea, like I said, I pulled my boat out within 10-15 minutes. Maybe I wasn't being paranoid with that light strip, probably was a sand bar. I've heard about Fork, couple years ago heard about like 17 bass boats sinking during a tournament or something to that effect. Grapevine and Lavon are the 2 lakes I've mainly been out on. I they aren't nearly as scarey as Hubbard and Tawakoni. Thanks for the heads up guys, I guess I'll have to do my homework. 
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#2471150 - 07/19/08 10:03 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: dizplacement]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 05/14/05
Posts: 5072
Loc: marshall, texas
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Ya might take your boat to Travis. It's pretty deep and structure free. Good place to go joy riding without getting the boat holed.
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#2471151 - 07/19/08 10:07 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: grandpa75672]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 05/14/05
Posts: 5072
Loc: marshall, texas
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Hey is you want to get freaked out, lost, scared, and awed all at the same time, you surely have to go to Caddo Lake. Ever hear of boat roads? And you do not run that lake without a detailed map. Spanish Moss hung Cypress trees, giant lilly pads, elephant ears, acres and acres of growth with marked boat roads cut through. I guarantee your first trip on Caddo will be a life time memory.
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#2471195 - 07/19/08 11:29 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: Wildone]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 1186
Loc: Princeton, TX
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That's down near the dam isn't it? Looked EXACTLY like that.
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#2471279 - 07/20/08 02:52 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: anthonyhicks101]
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TFF Guru
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 17850
Loc: Crandall, TX
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These are all marked with a good GPS system. '06 and up Navionics chip.
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#2472226 - 07/20/08 11:56 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: DMFORJC]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 2032
Loc: Garland, TX USA
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Even Hubbard has a few trees in unexpected places. A few years ago I had my aluminum boat out at Hubbard on the SE end, launched at Heath Boat ramp, and headed full speed south towards the dam. Then hit a huge stump and knocked a big hole into my stern, I had to take my shirt off and use it to plug up the hole so we could make it back to shore!
Edited by ccabal (07/20/08 11:56 AM)
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#2472406 - 07/20/08 01:25 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: ccabal]
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Green Horn
Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 7
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Wildone I still don't see the pic you posted. Do you have a link?
I was lookin at Joe Pool, I personally kind of like Lavon I've not had a problem there, it's a pretty fun lake from what I've seen sofar, saw the shad boiling the top of the waters and watching the stripers hit em, didn't have my rod with me would have loved to throw a top water out there.
One of these days I'll hit Joe Pool, but yes Ray Hubbard can be freaky too, when you are on the south side of the lake by the point at the end of Dalrock it gets pretty shallow out in the middle.
And I will also note I don't want a lake with no structure, just not at the surface of the middle of the lake haha.
Edited by dizplacement (07/20/08 01:27 PM)
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#2474940 - 07/21/08 09:45 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: Wildone]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 730
Loc: Rockwall
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You have to be careful on Lavon too but it is normally obvious where. The difference on Hubbard and Tawakoni is the areas in the middle that you would expect to be clear that are not. Hubbard has a forest in the middle too but it is not near as thick or as large as the one on Tawakoni. I only run the east and west sides of Hubbard from the Heath point and the power plant to the dam. I do not run east to west across the middle of the lake. There are some big ones just west of the Heath ramp so keep out from the bank. One summer when the water was low and clear I seen some real monsters off of Robertson. I am talking about stumps that you could easily get out and stand on.
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#2475045 - 07/21/08 10:11 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: Stump jumper]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 33
Loc: Grapevine, Texas
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This thread makes me think of an old fishing story.
I used to fish Tawakoni all of the time. Gas uses to be 1/3 the price and I did not mind an hour drive to get out there. I use to troll north of the bridge for sandbass and stripers. I used to drop markers on the humps and troll over them a couple hundred yards out from the pump station.
One day one of my buddies and I are reeling them in left and right. No other boats were in sight. This other boat goes by with his motor trimmed way to far up. He was bouncing up and down severely. He did not really seem to know what he was doing. He saw both of us hook up with fish. He made a direct line to where we were fishing, dropped an anchor right on top of my markers. He basically cut me off from trolling where I had been for about an hour. I was really irritated at first. Then I decided that he was probably newer to fishing and just wanted to catch fish.
I kept trolling like I had been and was catching fish. He was sting on top of the hump and was not catching anything; the fish were on the sides of the hump. He has the nerve to yell at me that I was spooking the fish with my outboard. I understand not to troll over a school of fish, but these were spread out over about 100 yards and were 10 feet deep. I was not going to change what I was doing because this guy encroached on my spot.
At this point I decided to mess with the guy. We kept trolling. We would have a fish hit but we would not act like it hit and start reeling it in until we got right next to this guy. It looked like he was on top of a huge school of fish when he actually not on any. After about 10 minutes of this he got even madder. He yelled some obscenities at me, flipped me off, pulled up his anchor and took off.
I just started laughing. My fishing buddy was mad. When I saw his course, I thought it was even funnier. I finally told my buddy that the reason I thought it was so funny was because he was driving through a forest. No more that 10 seconds later we heard a loud bang. He had knocked off his whole lower unit on a stump in the middle of the lake.
We had our limits about 10 minutes later. I drove towards him, just on the outside of the stumps. He would not even look in out direction. I am assuming that he got back home somehow. Main lessons from this story is to not be a four letter word and to learn the lake…..buy a map.
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#2475135 - 07/21/08 10:37 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: David Lee]
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Angler
Registered: 12/04/05
Posts: 387
Loc: Ellis county
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Just hit Joe Pool it is a good clear lake. If you stay between the bridges....
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#2475197 - 07/21/08 10:55 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: DMFORJC]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 04/25/02
Posts: 597
Loc: Justin TX
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dont go to brigeport if you dont know it ,it has a hump called lower unit point(I wonder why?)that if dont know its there will eat your boat, you cant see it until the lake gets way down,anytime you go to a new lake you should have a map of it,and know how to read said map,and even then there is the possablity of floaters just below the surface that can do you serious harm,so be careful out there and keep your insurance payed up.
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#2475206 - 07/21/08 10:57 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: gander]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 1422
Loc: College Station
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I miss my home lakes in NE LA...all Mississippi River oxbows. They have tons of wood cover without having all the submerged stumps.
I once scared a friend of mine to death. He'd never been on the lakes and had never been on one that didn't have submerged stumps. It was just before dawn and I gunned the boat as soon as we got outside the cypress tree line. He was scared to death and then I told him that these lakes are old Miss. River channels and have nothing submerged in them past about 5 or 6 feet deep (other than old piers).
I miss how easy these lakes were to navigate, but I do like conroe below 1097 for the same reason. It's just that conroe is a lot like a larger scale of throwing a rock in a bath tub.
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#2475250 - 07/21/08 11:10 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: aggiegolfer]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/12/08
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Texas/Arkansas
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yeah twok is pretty scary. its not too cool when you driving down the lake and your graph goes from reading 20ft to 2 ft in a matter of seconds and you dont know wtf to do.....
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#2475344 - 07/21/08 11:37 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 4063
Loc: west tawakoni
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it is a scary place until you learn it, I learned about the trees pretty early after moving here but a sandbar not too far from wolf really freaked me out one day- glad we were just poking alone...
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#2475842 - 07/21/08 01:46 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: kodys'papa]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 08/31/01
Posts: 1151
Loc: Tyler, TX, USA
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I have never figured out why boat lanes weren't cut and marked in more of our lakes.
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#2475954 - 07/21/08 02:10 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: Razorback]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 3170
Loc: Richardson
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I have never figured out why boat lanes weren't cut and marked in more of our lakes. - When most of these lakes were built boats traveled at 5 MPH not 75 MPH.
- It is cheaper to leave standing timber and the government is all about cheap.
- Recreation is a very low priority, its mostly about flood control and water rights.
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#2477517 - 07/22/08 12:17 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: Wildone]
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Green Horn
Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 7
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Yup that is exactly where I was headed before I turned around. Scarey.
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#2478708 - 07/22/08 09:59 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: dizplacement]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 1581
Loc: Oak Point, Tx
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Has anyone ever fished Reelfoot Lake in Tennessee? It was created when the Madrid fault created a earthquake that caused the Mississppi river to flow backwards. The backwash created Reelfoot Lake. It is one of the few lakes that allow commercial crappie fishing.
The number of stumps in this lake is remarkable.
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#2481185 - 07/23/08 05:37 AM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 12/21/01
Posts: 3969
Loc: Scurry, Tx - S/E of Dallas
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When I first started fishing I used to take my dads stick steering boat out to Lavon at least 2 to 3 times a week. I would launch in Malard Cove and never leave the area. After about a year I got to know every stick in the cove. During the summer I was fishing a little area where there were a bunch of small trees about a foot under the water. It was an area about 40 feet wide and 100 feet long. I was on the outside of the area about 100 feet off of a bank. I heard a boat coming and looked up and saw a lady pulling a man who was barefoot skiing. I was frantically yelling to try to warn them of where they were going until I realized the lady was looking straight back at the man. I went from trying to warn them to jumping on the trolling motor hitting high and getting the heck out of the way. They came by me about 20 yards away and she didn't see me until she passed me. I'm sure she noticed the look on my face especially as I rocked in the waves from their boat passing so close to me. After I settled down I thought it was my duty to go tell them of the danger they just avoided and point out the area of the underwater trees but by then they were headed under the railroad bridge out to the main lake. When Bob Sandlin was down I found areas of trees that came out from points at the mouths of creeks that I had run over for years.
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#2482607 - 07/23/08 12:47 PM
Re: Tawakoni is dangerous!
[Re: DMFORJC]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/17/04
Posts: 887
Loc: Rio Grande Valley
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California is a lot different than Texas when it comes to lake construction. Every lake I fish is full of timber and I like it that way. I do not want to see skiiers or lake flies no where around me. If you do not know a lake it is better to get a map or a guide to show you around. Welcome to Texas! Yes, the lakes in Texas were constructed leaving most of the trees, whereas in California the trees and stumps were usually removed before filling the lake, with the result that the lakes there are mainly barren wash basins. Typical example: Anaheim Lake. There may be a few stickups around the edges in some California lakes but there is little cover and structure. But I am very happy with the lakes here, as you can catch bigger fish. Yes, I know that in modern history, the record bass have been caught at Lake Casitas, Castaic, etc., (mostly with live bait), but your chances of catching a double digit hog are greater here. So, yes, you do need to know the lake before you go zipping around. Get a good depthfinder with a Navionics Hot Map chip and it will show you where not to go WOT! Good luck and good fishing. BTW, I lived in SOCAL for 15 years and kissed the ground when I came back to Texas. Please catch and release the big 'uns!
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