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#2438157 - 07/08/08 09:30 PM Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick....
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#2438331 - 07/09/08 03:42 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: FishingPhysicist]
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#2438373 - 07/09/08 04:02 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: bella]
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Maverick??? Maybe in 2000.
Now he's driving the FlipFlop Express.
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#2438391 - 07/09/08 04:15 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Tallgrass05]
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Originally Posted By: Tallgrass05
Maverick??? Maybe in 2000.
Now he's driving the FlipFlop Express.



Naw, he's just along for the ride .... Obammy is the actual pilot of The Flip/Flop Express! Its like BHO went to the Clinton School of Flip Flop and then made it bigger and wilder. I can't think of a single issue that Obamma hasn't taken both sides of in the last 18 months. And this from a guy that has served 136 days (actual days present) in the US Senate. Spin it however you'd like but McCain is a rank amateur at flipping when compared to Obamma!


You should be quite dizzy yourself as much as you spin for the Libs! breakdance

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#2438409 - 07/09/08 04:22 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: RayBob]
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Don't get me wrong, I like McCain. Was behind him 100% in 2000.

But I gotta tell ya, the McCain of 2000 would in no way support the McCain of 2008. He is almost becoming unrecognizable on some of his stances.

They are both flopping on the deck of political posturing.

Whisper words are evolving stances, nuanced changes.... bang
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#2438416 - 07/09/08 04:26 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Hookem]
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McCain is handicapped by having a record. Obama enjoys the position of having never done anything, so the when he takes both sides of an issue he is not going against what he has stood for in the past, for he has no past.

YOU have more hours on hold waiting for your cable/satellite tv company than Obama has hours in the senate. And yet somehow many fools think him qualified for an executive position. I just don't get it.
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#2438473 - 07/09/08 05:00 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Pilothawk]
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I liked McCain in 2000. As for his flipflops:

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=593495
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#2438481 - 07/09/08 05:05 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Tallgrass05]
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Of cours Obama flip-flops. He's poll driven. Obama is nothing more than Pelosi's, Reid's and Dean's handpuppet.
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#2438490 - 07/09/08 05:10 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: John175 ®]
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Barry even flips on his name..preacher..realtor..his friends..pulling out of Iraq..we you know, EVERYTHING..
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#2438502 - 07/09/08 05:13 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: kingdad101]
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Originally Posted By: kingdad101
Barry even flips on his name..preacher..realtor..his friends..pulling out of Iraq..we you know, EVERYTHING..


Been doing any fishing king? I fished Deer creek Sunday and it was muddy and windy.

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#2438579 - 07/09/08 05:45 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Mibass]
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Obama lies and freedom dies!

B. Hussein Obams, America's would be Mugabe.
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#2438607 - 07/09/08 05:52 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: a777pilot]
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With Iraqi officials calling for a timetable of US military withdrawal, we'll see if McBush sticks to his words of 2004.

"Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we've been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don't see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people."
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#2438612 - 07/09/08 05:54 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: a777pilot]
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McCain = Bush = Clinton = Obama

They are all the same and are controlled by the same puppet master. It makes no difference which one is elected. America needs a revolution and a complete shift from the status quo.

Obama will be the next president, but it wouldn't make any difference if it was McCain.

Obama, Bush and McCain probably all meet and private and give each other high fives for making 90% of the American people THINK they have a "choice".

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#2438614 - 07/09/08 05:55 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Tallgrass05]
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In the end the government of Iraq does not want us to leave.

Wait and see.
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#2438628 - 07/09/08 05:57 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: a777pilot]
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well of course they don't because they were probably installed by our CIA instead of elected by a free people.

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#2438639 - 07/09/08 06:00 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Goat Farmer]
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Sounds like Denton County.
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#2438640 - 07/09/08 06:00 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Goat Farmer]
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What happened to Rev Wright and Michelle? Sure have been quiet lately. Did Fatty put em on the wall?
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#2438645 - 07/09/08 06:03 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Goat Farmer]
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Originally Posted By: Goat Farmer
well of course they don't because they were probably installed by our CIA instead of elected by a free people.


Black chopper..come in black chopper..do you read me? Hello.... black chopper..

As 777 said, when it comes right down to it, the "elected officials" can clearly see the little line that runs down that gunbarrel in their face the minute we leave. Then what?


Edited by Wylie Crappieman (07/09/08 06:04 AM)
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#2438652 - 07/09/08 06:04 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Tallgrass05]
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I doubt you will see him change his position on this. If the Iraqui's feel they can go it without us,great. But I believe they would still want a US prescense their for support if they got in trouble. I'm all for a calculated and honorable removal of our forces from harms way,not Obama's cut and run.

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#2438662 - 07/09/08 06:06 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Wylie Crappieman]
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Originally Posted By: Wylie Crappieman
Originally Posted By: Goat Farmer
well of course they don't because they were probably installed by our CIA instead of elected by a free people.


Black chopper..come in black chopper..do you read me? Hello.... black chopper..




Baaaaaahhhhh, back to sleep sheeple.

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#2439530 - 07/09/08 10:22 AM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Goat Farmer]
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a goat farmer calling people sheeple..where's ratmo ???
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#2440718 - 07/09/08 04:27 PM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: FishingPhysicist]
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John McCain:
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#2440770 - 07/09/08 04:39 PM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Tallgrass05]
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every election and every candidate people get aggitated or are suprised when a candidate shifts position on a issue or does something they said they wouldnt.

Its all about the votes!! no one in national politics has ever been above it, including McCain. What a candidate claims during an election is never completely followed through with after they are elected. Especially when they are about campaign slogans and general ideas with no specific plans, like Obama.
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#2440892 - 07/09/08 05:16 PM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: Hookem]
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Originally Posted By: Hookem
Don't get me wrong, I like McCain. Was behind him 100% in 2000.

But I gotta tell ya, the McCain of 2000 would in no way support the McCain of 2008. He is almost becoming unrecognizable on some of his stances.

They are both flopping on the deck of political posturing.

Whisper words are evolving stances, nuanced changes.... bang



Kind of makes you wonder what either one of these guys really stands for, doesn't it?
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#2440919 - 07/09/08 05:25 PM Re: Looks like McCain is finally getting on the stick.... [Re: badkarma]
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Originally Posted By: badkarma
Kind of makes you wonder what either one of these guys really stands for, doesn't it?



Yes.

Sad.

McCain's followers are few, and Obama's followers blind.
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