I'd never tried flourocarbon before so I put some 14lb CXX on the other night on my favorite baitcaster. Tied a spoon to it and went outside to give it a few practice casts. It quickly turned into a rat's nest that I spent the next 5 minutes fixing.

I tried it again with the same results. I did this for about 45 minutes and never got it to cast without backlashing. The only way to keep it from backlashing was to thumb it to death. I took it off and put mono back on - went back outside and could cast it a mile.

What gives?

Forgot to say that it was a decent weighted spoon, so it's not like I was trying to throw something really light.

It took some time for me to get used to it, i adjusted brakes and tinkered with the reel before i got it right but now it feels the same as mono with the sensitivity of braid.

James

What brand of Fluoro was it? You really get what you put into it with Fluoro. Also try some of the line conditioners. They can make a world of difference.

I will never go back to fluoro again. Same problem. I know it's the NOW line but if it takes too much to use then I'll stick to braid or mono.

It was the P-Line CXX.

Its you its not the line... Try 100% berkely flouro...

Pline CXX isn't a fluorocarbon line, and it isn't available in 14lb test, so I'm a little confused.

No thank you. I think I made it clear...no fluoro for me again. I don't like the line and I think I am very adpt at casting anything. My preference.

Sorry, but P-line CXX isn't floro. It's a co-polymer.

And its one of the stiffest lines I have ever tried!

100% works better once adjusted to your specific needs on your caster. The sensitivity is like no other!

I use BPS Flourocarbon, and don't see much difference in casting it to mono. Use some line conditioner and you should be fine. Sounds like you may have been using CoPoly? Haven't used that before, so I can't speak for it.

I find that the first few casts in the morning can be touchy at times. The KVD line conditioner takes care of that. Fluoro is a good weapon to have in the arsenal. There are many applications where fluoro will put more fish in the boat for me. Fluoro just takes some getting use to.
Seaguar InvisX and Berkley 100% have worked great for me.

I just spooled up some CXX a few weeks ago and I didn't have any problems.I likes me some copoly.

Like others above have stated the P-line CXX is not true flourocarbon and is extremely stiff. It will be a nightmare for anyone that is used to using limp mono or braid. If you are going to try to use flourocarbon get a good quality limpest you can find. Seagar InvizX is one of the better on the market. With flourocarbon you can not take the cheap road when buying it as you will get what you pay for. Go to the line wall at BPS to feel and compare the different 100% flourocarbon lines. If after you give it a FAIR try and still a problem for you go to a braid main line with rod length flourocarbon leaders blood knotted to the braid.

i use flouro, mono and braid - different applicaations but same type of reels and i have no issues with any of them backlashing. i did when i first started using baitcasters a year ago but not any longer.

seaguar 100% has worked great for me and on the other rods i use floro clear. its floro coated but works great at half the price. even on a top water it works great. does not have the sink rate of 100% but yet it casts like a mono.

the seaguar 100% seems to work perfect and even use it for a weightless fluke and never backlash and still get good distance. Also i dont get the memory in the line like i did with other 100% out there.

Where did you get this extremely stiff from?

I have spooled up 15# and 10# and find it to be a limp line.They advertize it on the box that way too.

It's not a floro at all, it's a copoly.I like it so far.

I still like Gamma better though, but they (BPS) were out at the time and I picked up some CXX.

I'm using the 8# on a spinning rig and it works great.

As mentioned, use 100% fluorocarbon. Night before you fish, I do the same as with any mono. All line of these types will have memory. I hook my lure into my chain link fence and walk about 30 yds. Stretching the line to take kinks out. Only with fluorocarbon try adding KVD spray to it. It will adhere to it. Flurocarbon line afsorbs water. This will take the initial kinks out before you start. When you have made a few cast with 100% fluorocarbon line it will absorb water and become easier to cast. Hope this helped. Try Vicious or Trilene, Gamma Edge if you can afford it. Remember 100%.

I use 14lb. bps fluor. for deep crankin and can cast a dd-22 on 7'-6'' rod a mile no problems.

Ooooh well that splains it! I said I wanted to try fluoro and the guy gave me the CXX, said it was the best. Sheesh.

Will try to get my hands on some Seagur or Berkeley as per suggestions in this thread and give it a go. I'm wanting to try it on my worm rig for weightless senkos and flukes.

I really don't like floro either- I like the coplymers.

Easy there SkeeterHawk, I love P-line lines too. If you like the CXX try the newer Evolution next time you need to buy new line.

Don't feel "pregnant"! I tried that line and had major problems also. Finally went back to Gamma, Seguar, or BPS. They work better.

Back lashing cannot be blamed on the line. Sure, you may have to adjust for the difference, but that's it. I don't like flouro for other reasons: breaking in the middle of a cast, breaking in the middle of a cast, breaking in the middle of a cast... you get the idea.

Although not likely, but very possible, that particular spool of line that was backlashing could have been a bad or OLD spool of line that had become brittle/coily. As a matter of fact, I used some P-Line one time and it was terrible and I know a bunch of folks love P-Line, so I must have gotten hold of a bad spool.

Try the KVD Line Conditioner. It will tame the stiffness and memory down on your flouro line like crazy. It will make it behave more like mono and it will also improve your knot strength. Works great on Braid too. Makes it hold the color and factory finish 3-4 times longer.

Actually, my experience with copoly lines is much better than with straight flouro so far, and much much cheaper.

I just bought some P-line floroclear (copolymer), but haven't spooled it yet. Since it's not 100% floro will it have the same stretch as mono, or be pretty equivalent to 100% floro?

CXX is good stuff for spinnerbaits. Takes a beating well.

gamma edge and berkley 100% are hard to beat
but i dont use flouro that much. i feel that i break off too many fish on hook sets. copoly has some stretch to it so my line doesnt bust when i cross their eyes. CXX is good stuff. but like sketerhawk said gamma co poly is better

berkley 100% with KVD line conditioner. If youre having a problem throwing that...

For me, all P-Line products seem way too stiff like wire, and since I like copoly a lot been using Silver Thread AN40 for years no problem, I use Trilene Flouro when I need that type of line

i have tried a TON of them, and usually dont like thier qualities at ALLLLL!!!! I set the hook too hard, is what I have been told. and some have casting/memory quality that compares to what I flush!!! I tried one last line and really like using it. its VISCIOUS flourocarbon and its also about half the cost of others. i am also now using thier co-poly and really like it as well. For me- this stuff works. I think you will have to try a lot of them- as flouro seems to be angler specific in how you fish.... some "swear" on brands I had the worst luck with....

This was a funny post! Hard to blame birds nests on the line man! Its like blaming a slice on the club! That said some lines are easier to learn with! But you gotta get the right line. Thats not even flouro and thst some of the thickest line on the markey anyway! Chances are if its cheap or cheaper its not flourocarbon line! CXX is about 7 bucks for 600 yards at Academy, flouro is 17 bucks for 200 yards If you want to learn to use flouro try some light test, Seaguar or 100% Trilene or even the BPS flouro and work your way from there. Im now using up to 20 pound 100% and Seaguar and I throw a lot of weight less baits on 10 and 12 pound Seaguar with no probs! Learn how to use your reels and get a decent flouro line and begin to "feel the bottom" finally Good luck in your advaneture, it wont be a cheap one, been there done that, didnt buy the T shirt!
DannyG

I haven't had any problems with fluorocarbon since figuring out that you don't tie a Palomar knot on fluorocarbon . I especially like Seaguar InVizX but I'm considering giving Vicious a try. As for casting, the line conditioners do help a lot.

Yep

I;ve tried most of the floro's on the market. Seagar's InvisX is what I like the best. It is really, really good stuff.

Don't skimp out on the cost of floro either. You'll be sorry.

viscious is 9.99 for the same amount that Invis-x is(125+ yards)... I tried that stuff too and didnt have good results. regular seguar held up better for me, but the price wasnt worth it to me.

Why can't you tie a Palamor knot with Fluorocarbon?

thats all i tie on flouro and most all other lines/lures.

So what is the prefered knot with fluoro?

You can't use a palomar knot when using FC!...Poppycock!
I have used a palomar knot since way before moving to FC, and have continued to use it with FC without any problems at all...and I mean at all...period.
But the key when using a palomar knot with FC is that if you are just a little bit sloppy in tying the palomar knot and allow the line to cross over itself when doing the overhand part of the knot then the portion of the line that goes around the eye of the hook will end up lying over itself instead of lying parallel to itself and when that happens it can and will cut itself.

Now I can already hear the howls of protest about how someone "does not tie sloppy knots but they always have problems with FC...blah,blah,blah". If that is the case with someone then I would like to hear them explain how some folks have problems with FC cutting itself and some do not (the pros use it all the time), even when using the same exact brand and test of line? The answer is that a correctly tied palomar knot will do just fine with FC and one that is not tied perfectly will not work just fine with FC.
Like it or knot (pun intended) that's just the way it is!

I have used invisx for about two years now. I tie an improve clinch knot and have never broke off a fish. I have also never noticed any difference in casting verses mono.

I know it is kind of pricey, but I don't feel the need to change line near as often as with mono.