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#2430300 - 07/06/08 04:22 PM Float and fly action
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Registered: 02/18/08
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Loc: Dallas
I rigged the UL rod with a peanut sized bobber, a small weight and a #12 SHWAPF (swept hackle, wingless, all purpose fly.)

The little buggers tore it up. Unfortunately a bunch of them were tiny - much smaller than I catch with a #6 or #8 jig. Guess I'll have to add a hook size scale to my niblet definition - I had fingerlings checking out the fly!

The cork was attacked several times after hitting the water. This was often followed by a good sized fish. Could have been an interesting day with dry flies.
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#2430655 - 07/06/08 06:23 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
horns Offline
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Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 421
Loc: Mesquite
fun way to fish. i use a clear bubble you can fill with water. extra distance. they do attack the bubble

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#2430712 - 07/06/08 06:40 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: horns]
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"Just add water" sounds better than guessing which weight goes with which float.

How will a BB sinker go with a 1 1/8" float? Huh?!

I tried BB shot with these 3/16" bobbers and the bobber slowly sank. I tried cutting some lead off and finally got close.

Today I got a fly-fishing shot set and better was able to tune the rig. The kit came with four sizes - 4, 6, 8 and 10. How come the 10 is smaller than the 4? Isn't that a bit backwards?

Why is the "highest" seeded team #1, which is the lowest number?
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#2430851 - 07/06/08 07:20 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
horns Offline
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i only use a 3 foot or so leader. i was in east texas and caught a bunch on copper johns. it sure beats messing with bait.getcha a clear bubble at academy. by the way, this is deadly for the trout stockings coming up in december thru march

http://www.danica.com/flytier/jwoolacott/copper_john.htm



http://www.chiff.com/a/fish-bubble.htm


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#2432384 - 07/07/08 11:07 AM Re: Float and fly action [Re: horns]
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That link to Copper John's was sure appreciated. I think a size 8 hook is okay, but it said 8/0? I have a couple of them, but think I will make a couple more up. Thanks!
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#2432603 - 07/07/08 12:21 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: kelkay]
horns Offline
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i usually use a size 14 or 16 fly

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#2433531 - 07/07/08 05:14 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: kelkay]
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You'd probably need 12 gague copper wire for a 8/0 hook.

I never could get the taper right on the copper john, even after watching a video of the guy who designed it.

The SHWAPF worked again this evening. Caught my smallest bass yet - just under 3 inches.
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#2441051 - 07/09/08 06:06 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
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As much as they have been hitting the float, I figured I'd tie a float with a hook.

I found a foam, hackle, and hair hopper I tied a while back to use as a model.

I wrapped a #10 hook with two layers of lead wire to get some casting weight. Then I tied the hopper.

Like the boat I built when I was eight, the fly sank.

I guess I'm gonna have to finish that 2wt fly rod if I want a float with a hook.
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#2445664 - 07/11/08 05:38 AM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
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Loc: Dallas
I tried my model hopper with a copper john tied below. With a small weight added, I could cast it a short distance. Unfortunately, the hopper slowly sank.

I gave it soft jerks to get it back to the surface. This brought a few strikes on the hopper, but I wasn't able to hook any of them. I did catch a few on the copper john though.

After one miss, I had an un-holy mess of line wrapped around my rod. The CJ, hopper, and weight all made their own windings around the rod and each other.

Enough untangling! I switched to a spinner-jig and caught several more fish. The best of them were an 8" greenine and a 12" bass.
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#2448351 - 07/11/08 09:20 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 858
Loc: Dallas
u fishin ponds?
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#2449042 - 07/12/08 09:18 AM Re: Float and fly action [Re: getreal]
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Loc: Dallas
Fishing a small creek. Of course, everyone knows there aren't any fish in it. ;-)
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#2472832 - 07/20/08 04:41 PM Re: Float and fly action [Re: Grashpr9]
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Registered: 02/18/08
Posts: 509
Loc: Dallas
Largemough sunfish like flies too. I caught this one on a size 10 hare's ear nymph.



Edited by Grashpr9 (07/20/08 04:51 PM)
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