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#2428410 - 07/05/08 05:43 PM
Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 4336
Loc: Grapevine
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So Thursday afternoon my battery light came on when I left work. It went off right before I got home, so I just kept an eye on it. I went fishing at Grapevine and when I started the truck, nothing happened. I got it jumped and limped home with REALLY dim lights and lots of weird noises when I hit the turn signals or brakes. Take out the battery, go to get another one. They tested the old battery and said the battery was dead, so I figured I'd got the problem. With the new battery, it was fine. No light, no weird sound on the radio when I hit the brakes or hit the turn signals. This afternoon I go run a few errands and on the way home I notice the light is on again. I'm afraid it's the alternator. 1. Anyone have any battles with this? 2. How big of a hassle is it to change out the alternator? 3. If I need to take it to a garage, how much am I going to be out on this one?
Thanks
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#2428877 - 07/05/08 09:50 PM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: David Lee]
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Registered: 12/11/04
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Loc: Weatherford
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Easy Fix Jay.
Anyone that can use a screw driver can change an alternator out.
A couple of bolts and wire harness plug, and your done.
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#2428892 - 07/05/08 10:10 PM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: Fish Killer]
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Registered: 09/23/05
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Loc: Grapevine
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The prospect of fighting with that giant serpentine belt just kills me.
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#2429379 - 07/06/08 08:33 AM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: David Lee]
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Registered: 12/11/04
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Loc: Weatherford
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the belt takes all of about 30 seconds to remove. Just use a big enough cheeter bar. The part that is going to kill you is when you take it to Auto Zone and ask for a replacement.
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#2433314 - 07/07/08 04:00 PM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: Fish Killer]
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Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 4336
Loc: Grapevine
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OK, fixed it today and everything is gravy. Thanks for the help guys!
Now if I can figure out what I did to make the heater kick on after the AC runs for about 10 seconds, I'll be golden.
Thanks again, Jay
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#2465219 - 07/17/08 03:51 PM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: JayInGrapevine]
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Registered: 09/23/05
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OK. After a long fight with this thing, here's a warning for the future incase anyone searches for a similar problem. As stated, I initially thought it was the battery, then the alternator... I replace the alternator, put a freshly charged battery on it and it still craps out. I take that alternator out, take it and have it put on the machine and it tests fine. At this point I'm $190 into the project and decide to take it to a garage before I waste any more money on dead end solutions. As it turn out, on that 5.4 liter Triton engines, there's a separate coil for each spark plug. One of those coils had gone out and was causing the whole charging system not to work correctly. $160 later and things are working perfectly. So, next time your Triton 5.4L starts to act like it has a bad battery or alternator, have those coils checked.
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#2467064 - 07/18/08 08:32 AM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: JayInGrapevine]
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Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 7018
Loc: Copperas Cove, Tx
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One of those coils had gone out and was causing the whole charging system not to work correctly. Wow! New to me.. Glad your vehicle is up and running. Did some research and still dumb founded as to how the coil is tied in with the charging system. Was the vehicle running on 7 cylinders? I'm still lost at this one!
Edited by fool4fishing (07/18/08 08:38 AM)
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#2468448 - 07/18/08 04:39 PM
Re: Fearing the worst - 99 Expedition
[Re: DTCOOPER]
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Registered: 05/04/05
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The coil is absolutely not tied to the charging system. I don't care what anyone tells ya ! Unless the coil grounding to the engine was causing some interference.
The only connection could be this: The coil will cause a rough idle condition. This low or rough idle condition might cause alternator output to be reduced..
I have an 01 expedition. We have now replaced 7 of the 8 coil packs at various times.
Just a note- Auto Zone sells the coil packs for about 45 bucks each.. Very simple fix on all of them except # 8. Even #8 can be done in about an hour..
What you gotta watch out for is when the spark plug blows out of the hole, caused by only 3 or 4 threads into the aluminum head.. That one will cost you some money. LOL LOL, sounds all to familiar!
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