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#2425874 - 07/04/08 10:16 AM ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro!
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I know there is a BUNCH of guy and gals that play or want to

learn or even learn more! This will be the class!

All questions with responses will be handled here.

Sign up and we will get all the "Teachers" on board.

Please let me know what you what style, desire, skill level

and type of music you like. Thats a start. cheers
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#2425988 - 07/04/08 11:29 AM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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#2426037 - 07/04/08 12:02 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: kingdad101]
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#2426041 - 07/04/08 12:05 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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One thing that i have learned, if you can IMAGINE TBTS learning

anything is for me TUNING is the MOST important thing. You will

learn more stuff FASTER when you learn how to tune. Its very

"tricky" on your ears. You need to get a GOOD electronic tuner

i use a small one with a microphone built in. It costs under

$100 but you cant do much with the cheapos.
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#2426205 - 07/04/08 01:15 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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I would love to learn how to play guitar
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#2426210 - 07/04/08 01:17 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: FattyMcButterpants]
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I don't think i'm musically inclined enough to play the guitar. I tried taking piano lessons and was ok at it, but not as good as I would have liked. I think playing the guitar would be better.

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#2426214 - 07/04/08 01:19 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: jcarring99]
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#2426236 - 07/04/08 01:24 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Originally Posted By: TBendTexasSide
I know there is a BUNCH of guy and gals that play or want to

learn or even learn more! This will be the class!

All questions with responses will be handled here.

Sign up and we will get all the "Teachers" on board.

Please let me know what you what style, desire, skill level

and type of music you like. Thats a start. cheers


I play, but I'm sure I play a much more conservative style than what you are used to, therefore I don't think you would be able to teach me anything about your VERY liberal style. rolfmao
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#2426381 - 07/04/08 02:40 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: PhilR]
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I tried to play but my fingers get stuck in place and then POP they go where I want them to and then get stuck again... Its a losing battle me and the guitar..
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#2426458 - 07/04/08 03:36 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: cocodrie]
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#2426474 - 07/04/08 03:48 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: M3talH3ad]
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Lesson 2: Learn scale patterns.

example: Do re mi fa so la ti do is C major scale.

It is all Whole notes the only one.

Almost all "kiddie" songs are in C.

Twinkle twinkle little star....

Learn the order Sharps.

It starts to make sense over time.
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#2426480 - 07/04/08 03:53 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Music is MATH. "Chords" are made of 1st, 3rd, and 5th Scales.

chords go "together" in progressions. 1....4....5....1

kinda like family pecking order?
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#2426504 - 07/04/08 04:11 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Oh, you mean like Led Zeppelin.

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#2426506 - 07/04/08 04:13 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Well, sometimes they do change up and play complicated stuff...

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#2426507 - 07/04/08 04:13 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Kinda like that! cheers
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#2426509 - 07/04/08 04:14 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Just jackin' with ya.
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#2426512 - 07/04/08 04:14 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Originally Posted By: TBendTexasSide
Kinda like that! cheers


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#2426513 - 07/04/08 04:16 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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I have NEVER used tabs.

I dont like them, but many folks do.

Tabs show you the string "numbers" to play.

I think you can be a way better player by ear. To each his own.

An example, of TABS.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
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#2426517 - 07/04/08 04:17 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Listen for the lead in this, and t ell me what you think Holdsworth is doing:

lead line
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#2426522 - 07/04/08 04:19 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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This is the best I have seen on the web...

scales, chords, etc.
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#2426524 - 07/04/08 04:21 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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#2426527 - 07/04/08 04:24 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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It sounded pretty Pink Floyd ish.

Is that a Strat?

A little bit of Reverb and slight echo.

What was that?
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#2426532 - 07/04/08 04:28 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Thanks for the Chords charts. I save it to "Favorites"!
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#2426543 - 07/04/08 04:35 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: TBendTexasSide]
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Originally Posted By: TBendTexasSide
It sounded pretty Pink Floyd ish.

Is that a Strat?

A little bit of Reverb and slight echo.

What was that?


Actually, I think he's playing a guitar custom-built for him by Carvin, but don't quote me. If you have never heard Holdsworth, you'll be amazed at the textures he can create. I don't think anyone is as smooth, and he can do that with lightning speed if he wants. Holdsworth is pretty much the master in fusion circles. If you are truly open-minded when it comes to music and are adventurous, I can point you to a few cuts that'll blow your socks off. Trust me---you'll flip.

By the way, he is 50 times the guitarist that Gilmour is---and I like Gilmour.
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#2426546 - 07/04/08 04:39 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Another Holdsworth sample:

Temporary Fault
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#2426652 - 07/04/08 06:09 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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Guitar is not "taught".....it is "felt".

Some mechanics are taught, sure.....but the music must be "felt" somewhere deep inside the player for it to sound like "real guitar" when he puts it to the fretboard.

I have three pieces of advice:

1: Dont try to learn on a cheap guitar. They are too hard to play and sound like carp anyway. You'll only give up.

2. Learn your chords. ALL of them..in each position. You can NEVER play an effective riff unless you know your chords. All great players use their chords as a basis of their riffs. The ones that dont, sound like amateurs...because they ARE, no matter how long they've played.

3. Just as in playing pool....a guitar is meant to be STROKED.....not POKED. If you bang on it, you are NOT a guitar player....you are just a kid, trying to IMITATE a guitar player.
It's not how many notes you play or how fast you play them. It's WHICH notes you play....and when you play them. But most of all it's the notes you DONT play that separates you from the herd.

If you dont feel it in your chest....then dont play it. If you feel that the note HAS to be there...dont play it more than once in a riff, if possible. It doesnt always have to have balance. Letting things hang in mid air is a good thing. Leave it up to the listener's imagination.
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#2426793 - 07/04/08 08:14 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: Oldfrog]
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I know you're right, OF. I picked it up when I was about 15 and always played by ear. I was just itching to be Jimi Hendrix, and didn't give a hoot in heck about playing chords and had no interest in playing an acoustic.

When the day came that it was an acoustic or nothing (finances and college), I got pretty frustrated trying to play the few clumsy lead lines I had figured out. I had to modify my approach, and I found that chords were my friend. Then I discovered how the feel thing works. You are absolutely right---if you can't feel it, you can't play it (and sound good). A line played with moderate speed and precision sounds way better than something played sloppily and really fast. The acoustic forces you to play cleanly if you want to sound good.

I had to give up guitar playing for about twelve years because of an injury to my left hand back in '96, but have recently picked up electric again. As it turns out, one of the best things that ever happened was when I had to play an acoustic for several years before the injury. That broke a lot of bad habits. If I can get back the dexterity I had back in the old days, I might be able to play something worth hearing one of these days.
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#2427000 - 07/04/08 10:51 PM Re: ...Guitar Class! Beginner, Intermediate Pro and Super Pro! [Re: dogsdad]
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I have not played a single note of music in my life but I am musically inclined. I believe very much that you must be able to feel the emotion before you can express it to those around you. The expression could be visually, verbally, or musically.
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