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#2464428 - 07/17/08 12:10 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: SA Triton 20X2]
gclark Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/14/06
Posts: 2720
Loc: Lewisville, TX
Originally Posted By: SA Triton 20X2
Don't get mad, get even!!! Here is how!!

Before your next fishing trip, add these items to take with you. A small camera and the number for the Game Warden and Sheriff’s office.

So you use the camera to take photos of the boat to get the TX numbers and the person coming to close or anything else they are doing. THEN call the local law and report a violation of the “SPORTSMAN ACT OF 1983”!!!!

What the "SPORTSMAN ACT OF 1983" states that no one can interfere with someone legal taking game. It is a $300.00 fine. The photos will help back up your side and help getting the TX numbers. Also here are some TP&W laws on boating that can be used as well:

Operation of Your Boat
It is unlawful for any person to:

1. Operate so as to cause a hazardous wake or wash.
2. Operate in a circular course around fishermen or swimmers.
3. Operate any vessel or manipulate any water skis, aquaplane or similar device, in a willful or wanton disregard of the rights or safety of others and at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger or be likely to endanger any person or property. (Violation of this provision shall be punishable, upon conviction, by a fine of not less than $200 nor more than $2,000 or by confinement in jail not to exceed 180 days or both.)

PWC
1. operate PWC within 50 feet of another PWC, motorboat, vessel, platform, person, object, or shore except at headway speed (headway speed-slow, idle speed, or speed only fast enough to maintain steerage)without creating a swell or wake; and
operate a PWC and jump the wake of another vessel recklessly or unnecessarily close


Best post yet. Get educated and get even. I have the GM on my cell, and I always carry a digital camera. I can even take video with it. You would be surprised at how fast they will disappear when they see a camera pointing at them.

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#2465564 - 07/17/08 05:58 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: gclark]
fishinnb Offline
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Registered: 05/25/07
Posts: 250
Loc: new braunfels
three years ago we were fishing up the river at canyon. there were about three other bass boats too, when a guy in a ski boat comes roaring in. he wasn't pulling anyone, but he did about 5 doughnuts clearly trying to piss off the fisherman. on the 6th turn he hit a stump and his boat went from 35mph to 0.

one by one we all pulled up our trolling motors and cruised. he was not hurt, we could hear him cussin like a drunk sailor.
i will go out of my way to help ANYONE on the water, but not that guy.

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#2466130 - 07/17/08 10:45 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: Stickchunker]
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they hate us just as much, dont believe me-ask em
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#2466151 - 07/17/08 11:34 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: Stickchunker]
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#2466184 - 07/18/08 01:35 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: gclark]
ripnlips Offline
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Registered: 06/15/08
Posts: 162
Loc: Denton Texas
A 1oz slab through there windshield will stop there [censored]

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#2467239 - 07/18/08 09:28 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: ripnlips]
21v Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 2
I’m a wake boarder. My crew does not drink, and we get up early morning/late evening to ride. As a wake boarder I want smooth water and a safe deep long line to run. What that means is we gravitate towards the shores and dams that create a wind break and is generally straight.

Any good wake boat driver will generally “run a line” which is basically operating the boat in the same general direction every time, back and forth keeping the boat as straight as possible.

Just as I have read that fisherman don’t understand why we can’t go out to the middle of the lake to ride, I don’t understand why fisherman don’t stick to the coves with the trees in em. On Lewisville there are so many places I just cannot take my boat because it’s too dangerous to operate at 22Mph in. There are sticks and stumps and plenty of “fish habitats”. Why are the fishermen not there? I hear stories about people getting fined by the Army Corp of Engineer for cutting down stumps and trees because it destroys fish habitats, yet fisherman I see are never where the stumps are. You will NEVER find me operating my boat in an underwater forest. My boat is too expensive and easily damaged by anything I hit underwater. If you want to avoid us, go there, we can’t get back in there with yall.

If I had a place I could go where I could get smooth water and not mess with other people I would. I would pay money to access a designated lane to ride my boat in that had no wake tires on either side to dampen the effects of my wake on the lake and your boat. Buy unfortunately there is nothing like that.

I think the main thing to understand is that I personally do not want to rock your boat. I would prefer it if we could all share the same little slice of water and keep it smooth far all.

But this whole casting a line at people is dangerous and illegal. If you have an issue with how I’m driving, come over and talk to me. Or take my TX numbers down and report me, but do not cast lines (or do anything dangerous and stupid) at me or my riders.

Just as much as yall get annoyed with being rocked I have plenty of a-hole fisherman stories to tell.

I’ve been running a line at the damn at 6:00am, and been the only boat out there and have had fisherman come park their skeeter right where I’m riding. Then when I come back around for another pass, and I go around them they get pissed when their boat gets rocked. So they proceed to follow my boat getting within 20 feet of my rider and swoop back in forth. Same boat then speeds up past me and just stops his boat in front of mine. Soon as I stopped, they took off and left. So we proceed to ride again. Well then theyy come back and do the same nonsense 20 minutes later. I’ve been flicked off, cast at, yelled at, had boats drive right at my riders before. Last night we were cast at by a fisherman behind the no wake tires at Stewarts Cove. Its nonsense

We aren’t showing off for you, we just want to go around you. If you don’t want to get rocked back and forth by the wake, then go somewhere else. If you stay to one end or the other of where I’m operating I will turn short and give you room. I don’t want to bother you but I’m not going to leave. I will run the line and pass you legally, understand that… I have so few choices on where to ride and get smooth water that I dont know of any other way.

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#2467320 - 07/18/08 09:58 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: 21v]
Huckleberry Offline
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Registered: 10/10/07
Posts: 6119
Loc: Lake Slimestone
You will find bass fisherman in the areas you speak of (no visible habitat) in the summer months seeking "humps".....shallow rises in the deeper areas of the lake most often found in the middle of the lake or near the dam areas. Sometimes the fish are way more concentrated and easier found on these humps then they are in a 5 to 50 acre field of scatered standing timber.

I grew up on the east coast of Florida and surf so I know exactly what your talking about therefore you guys don't bother me. Hell if the truth be known, stirring up the water helps the fishing....for me anyway.

As far as bass boats fishing in the areas your running....that will never stop as long as there are tournaments going on. If they know there's fish on a hump that your running back and forth on, well your sht out of luck!
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#2467485 - 07/18/08 10:45 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: Huckleberry]
21v Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 2
Honestly I dont mind the bass boats, they mind me. At least yall typically speed to the fishing spot and just sit and troll and keep the water smooth. I have issues with most the other types of boaters because they screw up the water.

Nothing worse then having a perfectly smmooth cove and 1 boat is there churning it all to [censored] because they think turning in circles is cool.

At least if you wanted to you could go find a stumpy cove to fish in by yourself or other fisherman, us wakeboarders (the ones who are serious about it) have to just deal with the other crappy boats wherever we go. Hence we get up before the sun comes up, or stay till its about to go down to get 30 minutes of smoothness.

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#2467717 - 07/18/08 11:42 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: 21v]
responsible_boater Offline
Green Horn

Registered: 07/18/08
Posts: 1
Well said 21v. I am a wakeboarder/fisherman and I share many of the same frustrations you guys are having. I get very upset when I see a drunk idiot or a careless tuber. We need to understand that this is how lakes are now days and we must unfortunately adapt.

The bottom line is we all need to get along. Casting at people is not a solution. This is only going to cause more hate.

If you have a legitimate issue with another vessel, try talking to them. If that doesent work do like others have said and get their TX numbers, take pictures or whatever but when you start casting at someone where there is the potential to harm someone, you have crossed the line.

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#2470854 - 07/19/08 06:39 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: baylor_guy]
gclark Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/14/06
Posts: 2720
Loc: Lewisville, TX
Originally Posted By: baylor_guy


Looks like the consensus is to "run real close and spray em". One says it is even funny. Then they say we are dumbarsses. Doing that would most certainly be breaking the law. Who is really the dumbarsse? The predominant attitude is that of an adolescent. They or anyone else will not want to play with me in that way. My boat can catch them, and they don't want to get me to the point of chasing them down, I promise.

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#2470879 - 07/19/08 06:46 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: 21v]
gclark Offline
Extreme Angler

Registered: 09/14/06
Posts: 2720
Loc: Lewisville, TX
Originally Posted By: 21v
I’m a wake boarder. My crew does not drink, and we get up early morning/late evening to ride. As a wake boarder I want smooth water and a safe deep long line to run. What that means is we gravitate towards the shores and dams that create a wind break and is generally straight.

Any good wake boat driver will generally “run a line” which is basically operating the boat in the same general direction every time, back and forth keeping the boat as straight as possible.

One explanation of why you never see fisherman in the stumps could be you are seeing white Bass and hybrid bass fisherman. These fish are predominately fished for in open water. Other reasons could be the fish have moved out of the coves and are suspended around under water humps or other structure.

Just as I have read that fisherman don’t understand why we can’t go out to the middle of the lake to ride, I don’t understand why fisherman don’t stick to the coves with the trees in em. On Lewisville there are so many places I just cannot take my boat because it’s too dangerous to operate at 22Mph in. There are sticks and stumps and plenty of “fish habitats”. Why are the fishermen not there? I hear stories about people getting fined by the Army Corp of Engineer for cutting down stumps and trees because it destroys fish habitats, yet fisherman I see are never where the stumps are. You will NEVER find me operating my boat in an underwater forest. My boat is too expensive and easily damaged by anything I hit underwater. If you want to avoid us, go there, we can’t get back in there with yall.

If I had a place I could go where I could get smooth water and not mess with other people I would. I would pay money to access a designated lane to ride my boat in that had no wake tires on either side to dampen the effects of my wake on the lake and your boat. Buy unfortunately there is nothing like that.

I think the main thing to understand is that I personally do not want to rock your boat. I would prefer it if we could all share the same little slice of water and keep it smooth far all.

But this whole casting a line at people is dangerous and illegal. If you have an issue with how I’m driving, come over and talk to me. Or take my TX numbers down and report me, but do not cast lines (or do anything dangerous and stupid) at me or my riders.

Just as much as yall get annoyed with being rocked I have plenty of a-hole fisherman stories to tell.

I’ve been running a line at the damn at 6:00am, and been the only boat out there and have had fisherman come park their skeeter right where I’m riding. Then when I come back around for another pass, and I go around them they get pissed when their boat gets rocked. So they proceed to follow my boat getting within 20 feet of my rider and swoop back in forth. Same boat then speeds up past me and just stops his boat in front of mine. Soon as I stopped, they took off and left. So we proceed to ride again. Well then theyy come back and do the same nonsense 20 minutes later. I’ve been flicked off, cast at, yelled at, had boats drive right at my riders before. Last night we were cast at by a fisherman behind the no wake tires at Stewarts Cove. Its nonsense

We aren’t showing off for you, we just want to go around you. If you don’t want to get rocked back and forth by the wake, then go somewhere else. If you stay to one end or the other of where I’m operating I will turn short and give you room. I don’t want to bother you but I’m not going to leave. I will run the line and pass you legally, understand that… I have so few choices on where to ride and get smooth water that I dont know of any other way.

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#2474399 - 07/21/08 07:07 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: gclark]
infamousfisher Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 09/10/07
Posts: 890
Loc: Carrollton, TX
Finally a topic we can all gather together and agree that most skiers, not all, are some pain in the A***es. I don't get up set when people are in the main lake areas, safely enjoying themselves. But what I don't understand is why you have to ski around people anchored up with family or fishing close to the shore areas, especially damn areas. Alot of the boats have children in them. People should have the right to enjoy their boats without all of the BS. Skiers will have the whole middle of the lake to themselves, but that's not good enough. And also the music. I will be honest, I am a hughe fan of rap music, but the levels it is played is very bad. I will admit, when I am on the highway, I crank it up. But when I get around people, I have the decency to turn it down. I say we all get those guns that shoot bean bags and have an open season on idiots.
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#2474448 - 07/21/08 07:24 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: infamousfisher]
Herbert West Offline
Angler

Registered: 06/19/08
Posts: 428
Loc: west of Houston, TX
I can honestly say that so far, this year, the skiers have not been a problem for me. In fact, the few times I had a boat blast past and throw up a large wake, it's been bass boats. In one case, a guy figured he'd had enough of fishing this stump field and fired up the engine to get on a plane as quick as possible. Other instances have been guys pulling up to meter a spot cloe to where I'm fishing, deciding it's a no-go, then gunning it for the next spot. There's a**holes in every walk of life.
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#2474988 - 07/21/08 09:56 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: responsible_boater]
bassitup Offline
Angler

Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 402
Loc: Alvord
The problem with that is when you try to have a civil conversation with someone in a wake board boat, they immmediately go on the defensive. Most of the morons i see driving these boats are little spoiled SOB'S in their daddy's boat. Most of which need a haircut and a job, by the way. There is no reasoning with a lot of them. Just one ounce lead justice.
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#2475467 - 07/21/08 12:05 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: bassitup]
Jim Wolfe Offline
Pro Angler

Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 582
Loc: Grand Prairie
How many times have you seen someone climb (or try to climb) out of a ski/wake board/pleasure craft that were so drunk they could barely stand up? Personally I lost count a loooong time ago.
Now how many times have you seen that from someone in a fishing craft? I can probably count those on one hand.
Good for those ski/wake board/pleasure craft users that do not endorse that kind of dangerous activity, unfortunately you appear to be in the minority.
How many times has a ski/wake board user admitted on their own forum to harassing folks just so they could drive them off the "smooth water" they want for themselves? Admitting to being jerks just to get their way...on a public forum...and they wonder why they get a bad rep.
Have you ever heard of a fisherman trying to chase a ski/wake board user away from an area they want to fish without first being harassed by the ski/wake board user? I never have, but have seen the reverse happen plenty of times.
I know there are plenty of folks who are ski/wake board users that do not act like that, but overall as a group they tend to be the rudest, most self centered, selfish, unsafe on the water at any speed group of folks I have ever encountered.
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#2475483 - 07/21/08 12:09 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: bassitup]
mavschicks Offline
Angler

Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 387
Loc: Kaufman Texas
thats why I bought my lake lot at Fork not to say i have not seen dummies skiing that lake but they are far and few.

Mavs

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#2481395 - 07/23/08 06:46 AM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: mavschicks]
KrappyJig Offline
Angler

Registered: 02/20/08
Posts: 267
OK OK OK LETS just end this CIVILLY.Here is the deal Lets all ( I mean everyone who has posted here) ALL go out these next two weeks and take pics and make notes upon which returning we can all compare in full view of the public and all will be settled.
The criteria for the settlement will be this: any activity that is partaken,delved into or undertaken by a MAN or WOMAN over the age of 70 is obviously a truly good use of the resources and anything that can not and does not get done by a person(s) over 70 years old is obviously a waste of time to everyone involved because the true measure of any activity is its usefulness and longevity.So everyone take pics of those who are elderly either fishing or stirring the water and we will all meet for the final decision as to who gets the total use of the water for all it is worth and the other has to sell their boats and clean the FISHERMEN'S boats ooooppppssssss I mean the winners boats from now on...

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#2487623 - 07/24/08 08:26 PM Re: I hate skiers!!! [Re: KrappyJig]
jboato Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 06/15/08
Posts: 166
Loc: Denton
Those skiers piss me off so much. I have gone out on friends boats before, but I ensure that they stay on the main lake body for skiing.
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