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#2416125 - 07/01/08 12:03 PM big engines small boats
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hey all just wondering why the bass boats you guys use have such big engines on them?? just curious...
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#2416262 - 07/01/08 12:37 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: mouldybits]
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LOL...It has to do with wanting to get to 'their' spot on the water before someone else in a tournament...I have a large engine on my ski boat, because we ski...I personally think it's a waste of gas, but hey I don't fish in tournaments...YET...
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#2416274 - 07/01/08 12:42 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: LoneStarSon]
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all that got me thinking it was that here on a similar sized boat a 110hp tops would push em fine but like you say if its tournament then i guess its different,they're all fuddy duddys here and not many places you can go more than 15mph lol
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#2416292 - 07/01/08 12:49 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: mouldybits]
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it's called the need for speed

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#2416354 - 07/01/08 01:02 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Manchu]
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'more power' an all that ??
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#2416981 - 07/01/08 03:43 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: mouldybits]
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same reasoning for having to have the new tundra and 400ftlbs with 380hp (what ever it is, i dont care) when back in 1994 a 351 with 200 hp and 300 ftlbs would pull anything you could imagine... gotta pull it faster then the guy next to you
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#2417865 - 07/01/08 08:45 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: cocodrie]
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Because they are rated for it.

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#2418310 - 07/02/08 05:07 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: gclark]
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We are in a hurry to get to a place and not catch fish.
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#2418350 - 07/02/08 05:23 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: sandjohnny]
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something else to think about.

a bigger engine on a boat, will also get better gas mileage cause it doesn't have to work as hard to accelerate the boat!
you can always back off the throttle to save fuel.

like my ole bullet. it will run 70 at 3/4 throttle and just cruise!! big fuel saving.
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#2418377 - 07/02/08 05:32 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: steve@scp]
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Hey Steve, I was wondering...I have 1978 Chaparral Ski Boat it's about 21 feet long...It has the Mercruiser 228 on it...I have a prop that was manufactured in 1986 (3 blades), new when I put it on last year, on it now...It's either the 19 or 21 pitch, whichever one is for power...Is there something else out there?

Oh yeah, if you haven't figured it out, we keep things forever in my family...
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#2418987 - 07/02/08 08:40 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: LoneStarSon]
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Here is the real reason for BIG engines. IF (I said"if") your fishing bass tournaments or fishing for money and prizes, for every minute you drive, it is that much time that the lure is not in the water. I have yet to have a fish come out of the water, into my boat, look for a lure, hook himself, and allow me to put him in the livewell to be weighed later. Here is a prime example. Too tournament fish you must be making one cast per minute, at least. The law of averages states that for every 60 cast or one hour, you should catch a fish. If we have a 30 mile run and your boat goes 30mph, my boat goes 60mph, we fish the same area, I will beat you by 1 fish. I have been beaten by 1/100th of a pound. The guy that beat me took home a check for $1000.oo, I got a reel fill pack of Stren fishing line, that I promptly disposed of on IH35.........
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#2419227 - 07/02/08 09:48 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Mike Halfmann the boatmann]
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Mike, my wife told me this morning someone threw out something that looked like a fishing line spool out their window last month and it broke her windshield. Can I send you the bill?
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#2419268 - 07/02/08 10:01 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: bassman1]
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Not to mention that you can stay out longer when a storm is approaching because it will not take as long to get back to shelter.

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#2419291 - 07/02/08 10:07 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Stump jumper]
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so heres another one, why are the boats so low??
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#2419294 - 07/02/08 10:08 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Stump jumper]
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Hey! nanny-nanny. that tournament took place several years ago. So now you got to go after those gravel trucks for that windshield.
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#2421491 - 07/02/08 08:11 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Mike Halfmann the boatmann]
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For every 1 boat where the owner does frequently tourney fish, there are probably 9 boats with the big motors that don't. I know a few that have big motors but don't tourney fish and they tell me it is just a matter of time management. They are busy guys who have limited time to fish. The big motor means more time will be in the spots they actually want to fish.

I can see their point. My 17 1/2' tracker with a 50hp will only run 35mph wide open and cruises at about 30mph. One of my buddies bassboats can easily run at 60mph. It takes him half as long to get where he is wanting to fish as it would for me. On small lakes like grapevine, it really doesn't save much time. On bigger lakes like texoma, it can make a big difference. Some fishermen are willing to spend extra on gas and initial motor cost to spend less time running on water and more time fishing. My last bass boat was alot faster than my current one but I traded down to a smaller motor so I burn less fuel which just means I can go alot more often now smile
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#2421611 - 07/02/08 09:06 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: oldrock]
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i do not agree with the whole go fast to a fishing spot, its like saying you're gonna go 130mph to a Best Buy 30 miles away and i'm going to the Wal Mart 5 miles on a bike and we're in serch of a DVD player... the end results are the same, we both find DVD players

fishing at the coast, i've experienced many well equiped boats go fast and make a lot of noise but produce no end results.

mouldy - its the same question on why some people buy so many rods and reels, maybe its because they can, more power to them though. i am however quite glad no bass boats are seen fishing salt water... the air boats are bad enough as it is, they have big engines and no speed, haha.



Edited by cocodrie (07/03/08 03:42 PM)
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#2421670 - 07/02/08 09:41 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: cocodrie]
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because it's just more fun!!

it's all about the TOYS!!

either that, or they're compensating for something........what could it be??????
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#2421933 - 07/03/08 04:04 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: jtexas]
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thumb Tha fun and tha toys.......... At my age tha "sumthin' don't matter near as much as it use too. violin

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#2421951 - 07/03/08 04:15 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: TLW]
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well i can honestly say i dont know of any boats that look like yours here, and i dont know why, cos from what i've seen they seem to handle well and are well equipped only thing being here though is we couldnt afford to run engines of that size no way, ok maybe if you're commercial or a millionaire but not for joe public. what sort of money are one of those setups? (ie the boat engine and electronics)
cheers
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#2422993 - 07/03/08 09:32 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: mouldybits]
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For a new 21' with a 250 fully setup 40-55,000 depending on the brands
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#2423190 - 07/03/08 10:29 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: cocodrie]
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Originally Posted By: cocodrie
blah blah, i dont buy it, its like saying you're gonna go 130 in your viper to a Best Buy 30 miles away and i'm going to the Wal Mart 5 miles away on my bike and we're in serch of a DVD player... the end results are the same, we both find DVD players

fishing at the coast, guys and guides laugh at me and my 1650 alumacraft going out on a choppy 20knot windy day, but no one laughs when i come back with more fish then them. goes to show just because they run 23ft boats with 250hp engines doesn't mean they will find the fish or know how to fish in that matter.

mouldy - its the same question on why bassholes feel the need to buy so many rods and reels and use braid on 90% of them just to catch a 2 lb bass when i catch keeper reds and specks in oyster shell all day long with 12lb mono. whens the last time a basser had his treble hook smashed in the crushers of a drum and still managed to solo net the thing, oh and it weighing at 7lbs and 28 inches. i'm glad more of them don't fish salt water... who knows what they would find excuses to make everything easy


Sounds like sour grapes. Why is it every time someone starts talking about big fast bass boats, there will be someone who has to bash the good folks that own such a rig to the point of junior high school name calling? The fact is you can't always just cruise to a nearby fishing hole that will produce. If a guy wants 100 rods and reels, who are you or anyone else to comment negatively about it? You choose your way and Bass anglers choose their way. We all know the rig and the tackle do not make an angler, but they add to it. The reason for big motors on bass boats is the same reason someone would want an 8 cylinder in their truck over a 6 cylinder, more power and more speed. I have a big motor but I do not bash people who fish out of a flat bottom boat with a 25 HP on it. Why do people who have less always bash people who have the nice tourney rigs? This thread topic was about the size of motors on bass boats, not the fishing ability of anglers with big motors. Someone always seems to go back to the abilities of the angler. Who cares how good of an angler they are. The topic was about motors. One thing about Bass anglers driving hot rod rigs, they don't put others down because of what kind of boat they have or the way they choose to fish. A class act in my book. Boasting about self proclaimed superior abilities is 0 class.

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#2423286 - 07/03/08 11:03 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: mouldybits]
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Originally Posted By: mouldybits
so heres another one, why are the boats so low??



Built for performance, less wind resistance, and they don't need to be a deep V. They are for fishing on inland lakes and do not require to be deep. Plus, they look cool. That last comment was said jokingly but it holds some truth. And before someone bashes it, why did you buy the car or truck that you did? I am sure the looks had a big part in the decision making.

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#2423300 - 07/03/08 11:09 AM Re: big engines small boats [Re: cocodrie]
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Originally Posted By: cocodrie
blah blah, i dont buy it, its like saying you're gonna go 130 in your viper to a Best Buy 30 miles away and i'm going to the Wal Mart 5 miles away on my bike and we're in serch of a DVD player... the end results are the same, we both find DVD players

fishing at the coast, guys and guides laugh at me and my 1650 alumacraft going out on a choppy 20knot windy day, but no one laughs when i come back with more fish then them. goes to show just because they run 23ft boats with 250hp engines doesn't mean they will find the fish or know how to fish in that matter.

mouldy - its the same question on why bassholes feel the need to buy so many rods and reels and use braid on 90% of them just to catch a 2 lb bass when i catch keeper reds and specks in oyster shell all day long with 12lb mono. whens the last time a basser had his treble hook smashed in the crushers of a drum and still managed to solo net the thing, oh and it weighing at 7lbs and 28 inches. i'm glad more of them don't fish salt water... who knows what they would find excuses to make everything easy


Coco,

I own both, the Viper and the Bullet / 300 Merc bass rig. What does that make me??? By the way, if you are going to bash others on an open forum and display your company's name you may want to think twice. Some of the folks on here may actually be looking for the goods or services you could provide.

I will tell you this. I would drive my Viper 130 right past you to do business with one of your direct competitors just because of the idiotic remarks you have made.

Have fun in your pie pan in the wind,


Ken

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#2423452 - 07/03/08 12:06 PM Re: big engines small boats [Re: Ken A.]
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