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#2394418 - 06/24/08 05:42 AM Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon?
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I see the Vandaminator cranks with Fluoro, just curious on how many of you all do the same? I know it would be pricey!

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#2394431 - 06/24/08 05:46 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: mo4packer]
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I have 12 pound BPS flourocarbon on my cranking rods.
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#2394433 - 06/24/08 05:46 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: mo4packer]
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I have been cranking with fluoro for the past few months. I really like it. The line doesn't stretch so I have better hookups. Less lost fish.

I have even beet trowing topwater frogs with Fluoro without problems. Fluoro is supposed to sink and not be good for topwater but it isn't a big problem in my opinion.
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#2394467 - 06/24/08 06:00 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Crazyfish]
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floro does not stretch?
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#2394477 - 06/24/08 06:03 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: PI bassfisher]
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I have been for the last year and really like it. You can feel more. I use 12lb Vicious line.
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#2394483 - 06/24/08 06:05 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Crazyfish]
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It is all I use but I use it as a leader to the bait from 20# Suffix Braid. For me a spool of stiff Flourocarbon is a pain in the rear especialy when throwing smaller lighter baits. Also if I want to change the running characteristics of a bait or throw a C'baits into heavier cover all I have to do is change out the 6' or so leader not the entire line on the spool. Also if I want a bait to run deeper I can shorten or remove the leader and the extremely small diameter of the braid lets me do that.
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#2394491 - 06/24/08 06:09 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Limits4all]
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i just bought floro for the first time yesterday, using it tonite, due to finesse fishing, im just now geeting on board with this.

I know this is not the first time this has been asked on here, but what are the advantages and dis advantages.....and is floro hard to cast on a baitcaster, i got 12# test trilene floro
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#2394503 - 06/24/08 06:13 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: PI bassfisher]
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14# Gamma for me. You can really tell the difference in feel between mono and flouro. Feel lost with mono vibration wise. Flouro will spoil you quick on feeling vibration from a crank.
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#2394531 - 06/24/08 06:24 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Limits4all]
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Originally Posted By: Limits4all
It is all I use but I use it as a leader to the bait from 20# Suffix Braid. For me a spool of stiff Flourocarbon is a pain in the rear especialy when throwing smaller lighter baits. Also if I want to change the running characteristics of a bait or throw a C'baits into heavier cover all I have to do is change out the 6' or so leader not the entire line on the spool. Also if I want a bait to run deeper I can shorten or remove the leader and the extremely small diameter of the braid lets me do that.


What knot do you use for the braid to fluorcarbon so it comes thru the eyes on your rod. I've been doin the same thing but am in search of the strongest and smallest knot.

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#2394557 - 06/24/08 06:34 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: NYYankee7]
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#2394566 - 06/24/08 06:36 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: NYYankee7]
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I started using 12# fluoro this year for deep diving cranks and it really makes a difference in getting the bait down deep. More feel and better hook-ups. I don't think I will go back to mono for deep cranks.
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#2394612 - 06/24/08 06:47 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: North Texas Fiberglass]
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#2394614 - 06/24/08 06:48 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Fishin24-7]
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<<<<---- NEVER GOING BACK TO MONO FOR MY CRANKS. FLORO THE ONLY WAY TO GO!!!!
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#2394623 - 06/24/08 06:51 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: PI bassfisher]
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Originally Posted By: PIbassfisher
i just bought floro for the first time yesterday, using it tonite, due to finesse fishing, im just now geeting on board with this.

I know this is not the first time this has been asked on here, but what are the advantages and dis advantages.....and is floro hard to cast on a baitcaster, i got 12# test trilene floro


Read this article by Mike Bucca The Fluorocarbon Advantage
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#2394658 - 06/24/08 06:59 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Slide_R]
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Doesn't XPS 14 seem thick for cranking?

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#2394660 - 06/24/08 07:00 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: NYYankee7]
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Originally Posted By: NYYankee7
Originally Posted By: Limits4all
It is all I use but I use it as a leader to the bait from 20# Suffix Braid. For me a spool of stiff Flourocarbon is a pain in the rear especialy when throwing smaller lighter baits. Also if I want to change the running characteristics of a bait or throw a C'baits into heavier cover all I have to do is change out the 6' or so leader not the entire line on the spool. Also if I want a bait to run deeper I can shorten or remove the leader and the extremely small diameter of the braid lets me do that.


What knot do you use for the braid to fluorcarbon so it comes thru the eyes on your rod. I've been doin the same thing but am in search of the strongest and smallest knot.



Double Uni works like a champ for me, I use it on my spinning reel and bait casters.
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#2394674 - 06/24/08 07:05 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Outdoor Therapy]
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#2394698 - 06/24/08 07:12 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: bassitup]
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I don't even use Mono at all anymore. Fluoro and braid ONLY now. Fluoro has spoiled my. I flip using 2olb Triline 100% Fluoro. It is so much more sinsitive, stronger, doesn't strech and TOTALLY abrasion resisant.

I flipped the willows and heavy vegitation on T-wok this past weekend. I used fluoro more than the braid. Never had a problem.

If you try it, you won't go back to mono. I did try the co-polymer for a while last year. Didn't totally care for it.
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#2394801 - 06/24/08 07:36 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: mo4packer]
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Originally Posted By: mo4packer
Doesn't XPS 14 seem thick for cranking?


Depends on your conditions, water clairity and lure size. It should be ok for all around fishing but you might want to downsize if the water is really clear. 14 Fluoro is already a smaller diameter, probably close to 10-12 lb dia. Also if you are trying to "Hyper Crank" you might have to go to 8 lb if you want to realllllly get that extra depth, but you have to have lots of nerve and a more limber rod to crank big cranks on that smaller diameter. banana
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#2394837 - 06/24/08 07:42 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Bigron119]
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Would you crank with 12 on a lake like fork? Seems like youu would have a heart attack on every fish!

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#2394875 - 06/24/08 07:51 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: mo4packer]
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Originally Posted By: mo4packer
Would you crank with 12 on a lake like fork? Seems like youu would have a heart attack on every fish!


You've got to have some REALLY Big ones to survive cranking on Fork in the Timber!!! Probably have to eat Zanex like Chicklet Candy! nuts
But,there are some places that you can get by with 12 Fluoro that don't have much timber. Underwater ledges & humps.
Here is a good link with some general deep cranking info from "THE Crankbait Man" Paul Elias.

http://bassfan.com/tips_article.asp?id=265
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#2394902 - 06/24/08 07:58 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Bigron119]
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Loc: Tyler, Tx
A better question would be who doesnt crank with flouro...
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#2394949 - 06/24/08 08:09 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: PI bassfisher]
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Originally Posted By: PIbassfisher
i just bought floro for the first time yesterday, using it tonite, due to finesse fishing, im just now geeting on board with this.

I know this is not the first time this has been asked on here, but what are the advantages and dis advantages.....and is floro hard to cast on a baitcaster, i got 12# test trilene floro



Just a quickie so we don't hijack the thread. (These are all relative to brands.)

Mono- More stretch, larger diameter. Floats. Good All around. Has Memory.
Fluorocarbon- Less stretch, smaller diameter. Sinks. Not best for spining reels. Less Memory. Some of the better ones (personal opinion) Gamma Edge, Seguar, BPS.
Braid- Least (No) Stretch, smallest diameter. Easily cut on rocks, floats with wind.Makes noise when cast (Friction!!!).

Each has a place in fishing. You just have to be willing to use each in certain situations to gain the slight advantage of the lines.

Also, not much is spoken about using the smaller diameter slick coated braids for cranking. They will work but they have casting drawbacks with lighter lures.
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#2395056 - 06/24/08 08:31 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: NYYankee7]
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I for the smaller diameter lines I prefer a blood knot and an albright knot for larger diameter. Both will work and I put a small drop of super glue on the knot and tag ends. When glue dries use nail clippers to cut tag ends flush with the knot. It will be rare that either of these knots fail before somewhere else does.
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#2395265 - 06/24/08 09:37 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: North Texas Fiberglass]
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i use the 12LB carbon-pro 100% flouro
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#2395384 - 06/24/08 10:05 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: chadcox]
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10-14 pound Seaguar with a braid knot. If I am cranking mid depth (8-14') heavy cover I'll use 20 pound fluorocarbon.
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#2396342 - 06/24/08 02:34 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Bassonly]
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12 lb Seaguar FC on my cranking stick.
Be aware that FC does stretch, but since it is denser than Mono the sensitivity more than makes up for it.
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#2396384 - 06/24/08 02:56 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Jim Wolfe]
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Florocarbon gets me two more feet
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#2396573 - 06/24/08 04:16 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: CameronTurnquist]
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12lbs BPS fluorocarbon for most crankbaits, and 17lb fluorocarbon for rattle traps.

I boated my personal best (12.97) on fork with 10lb berkley xl, in the trees in penson. The ex-guide I was with just about had a heartattack when I told him I only had 10 lb test. my reels drag and composite cranking rod did the trick.

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#2396660 - 06/24/08 04:57 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: meP2too]
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BPS 12#-14# fluor work just great for all my cranking needs.

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#2396937 - 06/24/08 06:07 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: monkester]
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100% FC / 100% of the time. Just like it and the increased depth and bites. M2C
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#2397023 - 06/24/08 06:33 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: FISH GRANDE]
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I will second Jerry! 100% FC, all the time, except for swimbaits and topwater.

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#2397111 - 06/24/08 06:52 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: James Walston]
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#2397189 - 06/24/08 07:10 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: chadcox]
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I use 12 Lb Seagar Invisx for all my crank baits
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#2397215 - 06/24/08 07:14 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: North Texas Fiberglass]
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I use McCoys Mean Green for crankbaits, with a BPS crankin stick rod. I want the softer tip since the fluoro has no stretch. I tie a palomar knot.
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#2397223 - 06/24/08 07:16 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: James Walston]
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Originally Posted By: James Walston
I will second Jerry! 100% FC, all the time, except for swimbaits and topwater.


NO JAMES, I DITTO YOU ON THAT. I DON'T ON TW. BRAID AND MONO (McCOY'S MEAN GREEN). SWIM BAITS - NO. I USE FC ON THE 6.5 DIAMONDBACK RATTLESNAKE. A SWIMMER...

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#2397263 - 06/24/08 07:25 PM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: FISH GRANDE]
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I have been really happy with Sunline
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#2398359 - 06/25/08 07:28 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Slimpickens4Me]
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I use 10# - 12# to crank with. For lipless I use 15# green Big Game.
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#2398776 - 06/25/08 09:50 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: Big Red 12]
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I have been using 12# Vicious fluorocarbon for my cranks. It has been working good for me so far.
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#2429655 - 07/06/08 11:04 AM Re: Who Cranks with Fluorocarbon? [Re: dallasdawg]
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On lakes like Fork/Ray Roberts I have used 20 lb. braid for cranks. But most of the time I like 12 lb fluoro.
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