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#2389232 - 06/22/08 11:48 AM gar fishing
Ryno Offline
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Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 867
Loc: Irving, TX
Hey there,
before this summer ends I would like to take a day and fish for alligator gar on the Trinity somewhere. I've got some frozen shad in the deep freeze and a musky rod with 80lb braid...has anyone seen them surfacing yet?
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#2389524 - 06/22/08 02:32 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Ryno]
Kolban Online   content
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 334
Loc: North Richland Hills, TX
Ryno,
Me too. I'd like to target some Gar. I fish out on Eagle Mountain lake but haven't been able to catch one there yet. If you hear of anywhere that we can catch them at, please let me know. I plan on going north to my in-laws who live on the TX/OK border ... right beside the red-river and I saw bunches of them there last year but didn't have anything like the correct tackle. This year I plan on going armed for bear.

I have made up some nylon rope lures in the hopes that will catch some. If you need some company at the trinity for Gar, let me know.

Neil
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#2389702 - 06/22/08 04:03 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Kolban]
horns Offline
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Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 380
Loc: Mesquite

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#2389964 - 06/22/08 05:51 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: horns]
Golden Ghost Online   content
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Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 4405
Loc: Texas.....duh
For gator gars your going to need large cuts baits.
I have a picture of my gator gar rig of yall would like to see it. just let me know.

As for the rope lures, they wont work for Alligator gars. Just Longnose gar.

Oh, and if you don't plan to eat the gar, try not to gut hook them. smile

GG
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#2390151 - 06/22/08 06:51 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: horns]
Ryno Offline
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Registered: 04/15/04
Posts: 867
Loc: Irving, TX
Horns...I believe that is Haggar right? I've never seen any alligator gar in there...just longnose. Since the Trinity dumps in there I guess you never know though!
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#2390202 - 06/22/08 07:05 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Ryno]
Kolban Online   content
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 334
Loc: North Richland Hills, TX
I'm a newbie at Gar fishing ... I understand that there are two subspieces ... the long-nose and the aligator ... I see lots of Gar break surface and roll on the surface. For a lake like Eagle Mountain, is there a way I can tell if they are long-nose or aligator?

Neil
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#2390244 - 06/22/08 07:23 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Kolban]
Golden Ghost Online   content
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Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 4405
Loc: Texas.....duh
Originally Posted By: Kolban
I'm a newbie at Gar fishing ... I understand that there are two subspieces ... the long-nose and the aligator ... I see lots of Gar break surface and roll on the surface. For a lake like Eagle Mountain, is there a way I can tell if they are long-nose or aligator?

Neil


There are five species of gar in america as far as I know.

Alligator Gar
Longnose Gar
Spotted Gar
Shortnose Gar
Florida Gar (only found in Florida)

See here for how ID all the different Gar species. (scroll down till you see
gar)

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/landwater/water/aquaticspecies/inland.phtml

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#2390253 - 06/22/08 07:26 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Kolban]
Starless Dragon Moderator Online   content
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Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 13749
Loc: Where the fish are!
Actually, there are four species of Gar in Texas. Longnose, Shortnose, Spotted, and Alligator.

The Spotted Gar is the most common gar in texas, followed by Longnose, Alligator, and Shortnose.

As far as longnose and alligator go, it's easy. Longnose have a long, narrow mouth/snout, Alligator have a shorter, broader one. And get a hell of a lot bigger lol.

More specifically, here are links to the TPWD pages for each species to help you tell the difference:

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/spottedgar/

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/lng/

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/alg/

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/species/sng/
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#2390347 - 06/22/08 07:59 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Starless Dragon]
horns Offline
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Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 380
Loc: Mesquite
thats haggar. caught a few in a couple trips. not sure which

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#2390630 - 06/23/08 02:38 AM Re: gar fishing [Re: horns]
Husker Offline
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Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Ovilla, Texas
Ryno,
As soon as I get back from my fishing trip to Nebraska, we can hook up and try to get some gar. In addition to the Trinity, I know where there is a deep hole in Chambers Creek where I have seen gar surfacing, last time I was catfishing there, I caught some small longnose, but I saw some huge gar roll in the water, I just wasn't targeting them.

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#2391736 - 06/23/08 09:24 AM Re: gar fishing [Re: Husker]
LoneStarCarper Moderator Online   content
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Registered: 07/09/04
Posts: 4896
Loc: dallas
I am also down for a a-gar trip I have a couple of ideas as to were to find them
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#2392373 - 06/23/08 12:43 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: LoneStarCarper]
Husker Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Ovilla, Texas
I wish there was a way to find land owners names to seek permission to fish, I KNOW there are gator gar south of Rosser.

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#2413643 - 06/30/08 04:07 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: Husker]
My96z Online   content
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Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 66
Loc: Lampasas, Tx
I've got a boat if anyone knows where to go....
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#2415024 - 07/01/08 05:46 AM Re: gar fishing [Re: My96z]
rickt300 Offline
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Registered: 01/25/01
Posts: 1165
Loc: Alvarado, Tx, Johnson
There are big gar in the Trinity around where 85 crosses it on the way to 7 points also.
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#2415626 - 07/01/08 08:56 AM Re: gar fishing [Re: rickt300]
Kolban Online   content
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 334
Loc: North Richland Hills, TX
If anyone wants to form an outing hunting for the gar, count me in.

Neil
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#2416071 - 07/01/08 11:50 AM Re: gar fishing [Re: Kolban]
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Registered: 04/27/02
Posts: 1031
Loc: Joshua
Eagle Mountain: 99% Longnose 1% AGar. The few AGar that are there are rarely seen or caught and are reported to be huge. http://dfw500.com/ag.html

Actually, any Alligator Gar in the DFW trinity system would be very old and probably very big.

I also know exactly where to go to fish for them. About 2 hours south of Dallas. Get a boat big enough for me and let's go get sum Agar! smile lol..

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#2416704 - 07/01/08 02:32 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: dmunsie]
My96z Online   content
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Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 66
Loc: Lampasas, Tx
I am about 2-2.5 hours south of Dallas. Lets go Dmunsie!

I just need to get a proper rod, reel and equipment!

Jeff
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#2417174 - 07/01/08 04:41 PM Re: gar fishing [Re: My96z]
Kolban Online   content
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 334
Loc: North Richland Hills, TX
I have a boat on EM ... so if EM works ... we are all set.

Neil
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