just think what would happen if a war broke out and we were unable to get oil form the middle east/

Dude quit drinking the coolaid, you've obviously started believing everything that opec has been trying to brainwash you with....

The oil wells are capped because the railroad's in the US control how much oil can be transported hence how much can be pumped. I don't know what they decissions are based on, but I know that a number of those capped wells can easily produce oil.

This country has easily enough oil reserves to sustain us for 50 to 100 years, all we need to do is get the lobbists out of the legislators pockets and our dependancies are reduced in a matter of a couple of years.

That did happen back in 73 when Syria and Egypt attacked Israel. It was called the Ramadan war. The arab nations would not sell any oil to any nation that supported Israel. This included the United States. So we did have some very long lines at the gas stations.

If we don't get the babbling idiot out of office soon it's going to. Think about it, we have babbling bush talking about freezing the assets and puting sanctions against Iran. Iran produces 1/4 of the worlds oil, that means either 1/4 of the world is going to ignore the sanctions or they are going to push the price of oil up for the other 3/4ths of the world.

Smart economics from the good ol Texas home boy, push our country into a recession, then jump up and down on the nails in the coffin to make sure it sticks with us for a long time to come.

OH, while destroying the US Economy let's strap it's military so that we are more vulnerable to attack, let's give all our jobs to the countries that hate us most, and let's give all our national budget to bribing the leaders of a country that no sooner than the gravy train pulls out will go back to plotting to kill us again.... Oh since the bribes works so good in Iraq, lets call it an Economic Stimulous Package and try it on our own soil....

So what would you suggest to do about Iran. Go ahead and let them have nukes so they can start shooting long range nukes at the United states. And even be able to hit just about any city they want to in the USA. Is that when you will want to stop them. And please don't try and tell me Iran wouldn't hesitate trying to hit us either as our two countries are enimies if you recall.

No catfish, I suggest we bomb the [censored] out of them then come along and bribe their citizens with new infrastructures 10 times better than we have, then when we get them all modern and such we give them more of our jobs. To pay for all this why not take the few working people left in this country and tax them until it's cheaper to stop working.

That's worked great for the past 8 years why break whats already broken.

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Btw, the 50-100 years your talking about is our lifetime or our kids' lifetime. Way to go genius!

Again, we are all ready post peak in this country. Do you think we like importing 2/3 of our oil from Canada and Mexico(which is also post peak)? Do you think we like importing oil from any Arab or Muslim country?

Hey genious, have you looked at how much technology has progressed in the past 50-100 years?????

You really have drowned in the coolaide, you really have. 50-100 years is more than enough for technology to progress and for the dependancies on oil to be reduced if not eliminated so why the hell should we be spending $4-10 per gallon when the oil is there for the taking and technology will make it obsolete long before it's gone...

Think with your brain instead of being an idiot and listening to the propoganda spread by opec trying to convince us there is a need to pay to build billion dollar mansions today instead of using what is available to us now.

I could care less if there is oil available for my great grandkids, they won't need it, they will have moved on to the next resources that technology will find and exploit.

well, it eventually had to happen!!!



i'm in!!!

Hey trout bum, first beer is on me.

Wonder if we could design a motor that could run on grain alcohol. When you run low, just pour some cheap moonshine in it!! lol

Zeek, already have designed one, it's called a Wankel Engine. Pretty much any liquid that burns will make it go.

I guess i'm really confused over this deal,I live in a country where the people has the say-so(or do we).It seem to me that both party dont want to here what we have to say.It seems to me they dont want to hear what the american people want,they have there minds made up on everything already,it dont mater what you think or I think,What do we do during an election year when one canidate is bad and the other is worse.They dont listen to us anymore,it's just a fight between the two of them.

Did you even read the article I posted? EROI has NOTHING to do with shale oil any more, the puzzle has been solved and it can now be extracted efficiently. You need to read current info in more places. They have even recently genetically engineered a microbe that eats organic waste (wood chips, plant stalks etc) and excretes crude oil. There was an article on Fox news about it last week.

There are many capped wells, and you are correct that it was not cost effective to extract the oil from them when oil was $14 a barrel. At $50 -$60 a barrel or higher it is profitable.

Between the shale oil reserves and the untapped oil off the coast we have enough oil to last this country for a very very long time.

raider;

The coolaid's already been drank, no convincing anyone after they'd drank it....

Headed down the path that were on, we definately need every last barrel of oil we can get, be it from shale, ANWAR, or the mid east. We should be prepared to take it, because noone is gonna hand it to us and we'll need as long as possible to rid ourselves of this wasteful and enironmentally damaging habit.

I don't personally care for coolaid, I prefer beer. But conventional oil has to stay above a certain price level for it to be profitable to extract and refine shale rock into oil then into gasoline which can be mindlessly burned in MT's gas tank.

I don't even drink enough beer to think we're gonna fall off a cliff. What we do need to do, while mindlessly consuming ever greater amounts of a single nonrenwable energy source, is to invest like there's no tommorrow in new techologies, and re-vamped urban/suburban infrastucture.

You cool-aid drinkers should feel lucky as hell to live in this country which allows us to burn and waste at the expense of someone else you won't ever know. And you should feel obligated do something about it rather the sit on you interet bums and drink the kiddi coolaid. If not for yourselves, then for your kids.

As a side note, off shore/deep water finds peak out a lot faster than the conventional stuff we peaked out on in 1971.

Kube;

First off the Supply of oil has not peaked, it's the refineries productions that have peaked. There is plenty of oil it just cannot be processed fast enough.

Also have you noticed these things called computers, and electronics, they generally are refered to as Technology Devices...

Your panic driven talk of running out of oil does not account for technology which will slow the demand for oil over the same timeframe you are claiming we will run out.

Each year more and more hybrids hit the market and they get cheaper, we are starting to see alternative fuel vehicles hit the market like Honda's new Hydrogen Fuel Cell, in the next 10-20 years these vehicles will be the norm and gas driven vehicles will be phased out....

NEVER underestimate man's enginuity for overcoming necessity.

You guys are giving me tired head. I just hope nobody thinks Ethanol is the answer. It would require every parcel of land in U.S. to grow corn. And that would only get us through about a year. Besides, the price of corn tortilla chips has gone up enought hadn't it!! Oooooh, and I loves me some chips and salsa!!

Don't forget what is probably the biggest problem with Ethanol. It takes 3 gallons of water to make one gallon of Ethanol. Not counting what it takes to grow the corn.

I see people WHINING about $4 a gal a gas but I see people go to Starbucks and spend $5 for 16 OZ.
If you are one if those that do this then I suggest you have have nothing to whine about !!!!

invest heavily in alternative energy and technology not alternative fuels. nuclear energy is safe,there is plenty of wind,coastal tidal energy. Technology is there for solar and electrical power sources. Hydrogen batteries were used to land on the moon. All available for years but buried by government through oil and automotive lobbiest.

Good thing 2/3rds of the earth is covered with water....