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#2360262 - 06/12/08 01:01 PM Crane Accidents
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what happened ?

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#2360264 - 06/12/08 01:01 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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hi
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#2360266 - 06/12/08 01:01 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: SEV]
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Crane fell

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#2360269 - 06/12/08 01:02 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: SEV]
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got out of hand with the namecalling.
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#2360272 - 06/12/08 01:02 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: SEV]
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i think this is going to be found equipment error
said a concrete bucket broke off

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#2360286 - 06/12/08 01:05 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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because i called my best friend a f^g

anyhow, i am sure it is operator error and i bet the wind might have had some play in it.

as a 30 hour OSHA certified professional, it will be interesting what happens.

i hate that things get deleted when we are only having fun
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#2360388 - 06/12/08 01:34 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: riverrat1973]
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river rat
i respect you OSHA experience
i built wood roller coasters for Dinn Coaster Corp for 4 years.
along with cellular experience 8 years.
i was on hand for 4 crane accidents & 3 of them were rigging errors.
i guarantee you that in NYC the accidents will be found to be caused by not bracing the tower of the crane correctly .
i have seen 2 cranes tump over before they ever made a pick. the outriggers were jacked up. they were set up buy guys with litle experience. the prima donna operators would not even get out & look at what was about to happen to them.
i bet i have been invoved in at least 2000 crane picks

i just think that there are lots of guys who don't have a clue, involved in major responsibilities now.

i respect the Granbury flathead record more though

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#2360396 - 06/12/08 01:36 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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hope all is well.....I heard careflight was called in.
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#2360402 - 06/12/08 01:37 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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huh

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#2360425 - 06/12/08 01:41 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
butch sanders Offline
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i will say that the pix i participated in were more complex than hauling concrete in a bucket.
that left more room for human error

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#2360487 - 06/12/08 01:55 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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I have a good friend that works for that particular GC. But not on that site. When I hear some good public info I will let you know. Sad though I called him last night about the crane accident down town. He said it was a block from him.

I am sure glad our crane is gone.


Edited by THE202ZX (06/12/08 01:56 PM)
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#2360490 - 06/12/08 01:56 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: THE202ZX]
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I think crane accidents are bad
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#2360514 - 06/12/08 02:00 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: SEV]
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what happened ?

DL and I lost valuable posts. bang
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#2362010 - 06/13/08 03:53 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
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equipment failure
cable snapped - that could also be human error

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#2362077 - 06/13/08 04:34 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
equipment failure
cable snapped - that could also be human error
Polar bear error was the last report I heard.
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#2362082 - 06/13/08 04:36 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
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polar bears are smarter than the people who did this

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#2362090 - 06/13/08 04:38 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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Polar bears are stupid. They react instinctively. They are animals who's skin can be utilized as garments. They are animal and nothing more. Never saw a polar bear that could build a stadium. How many do you have working for you?
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#2362096 - 06/13/08 04:40 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
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they build massive ice structures
and they have found a polar bears iq to be around 140

too hot here or i would hire them

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#2362112 - 06/13/08 04:47 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
David Lee Offline
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Originally Posted By: John175 ®
what happened ?

DL and I lost valuable posts. bang


Big man keeps knocking us down.eeks
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#2362118 - 06/13/08 04:50 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
they build massive ice structures
and they have found a polar bears iq to be around 140
rolfmao
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#2362120 - 06/13/08 04:51 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: David Lee]
John175 ® Offline
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Originally Posted By: David Lee
Originally Posted By: John175 ®
what happened ?

DL and I lost valuable posts. bang


Big man keeps knocking us down.eeks
We'd have a solid 50k by now if they would quit kicking the ladder out from under us. bang
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#2362126 - 06/13/08 04:53 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
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Originally Posted By: John175 ®
Originally Posted By: David Lee
Originally Posted By: John175 ®
what happened ?

DL and I lost valuable posts. bang


Big man keeps knocking us down.eeks
We'd have a solid 50k by now if they would quit kicking the ladder out from under us. bang


I guess with Fatty being a MOD he likes to keep up with us.eeks
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#2362147 - 06/13/08 05:01 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: David Lee]
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Originally Posted By: David Lee
Originally Posted By: John175 ®
Originally Posted By: David Lee
[quote=John175 ®]what happened ?

DL and I lost valuable posts. bang


Big man keeps knocking us down.eeks
We'd have a solid 50k by now if they would quit kicking the ladder out from under us. bang


I guess with Fatty being a MOD he likes to keep up with us.eeks [/quote]

I've suspected his involvement. eek
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#2469191 - 07/19/08 03:43 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: John175 ®]
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http://www.star-telegram.com/state_news/story/769131.html

watch out if you are around anything but mobile cranes
maybe even those

1 guy not tightening his bolt, not making sure something really snapped shut, or just plain dumb. that is the problem here.

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#2469226 - 07/19/08 04:21 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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I was in NYC the day after that big crane accident killed 7 or 9 people. Seems that they have found some crane inspector on the take. I guess some construction companies are more concerned with deadlines than safety hmmm imangine that.
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#2469285 - 07/19/08 05:05 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: water_surge]
butch sanders Offline
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for real ?
i cannot even imagine what each party was thinking, or what they are thinking now.
if that is true those people shoul;d give everything they have to the survivors

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#2486742 - 07/24/08 02:33 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
butch sanders Offline
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_us/crane_collapse

yep another 1
we need to get some operators & riggers trained


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#2486859 - 07/24/08 03:22 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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It seems since the two in NYC all of a sudden they are happening almost every week.

Is it operator error or are the cranes getting old enough that parts are breaking because preventative maintenance has not taken place?

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#2486938 - 07/24/08 03:50 PM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
river rat
i respect you OSHA experience
i built wood roller coasters for Dinn Coaster Corp for 4 years.
along with cellular experience 8 years.
i was on hand for 4 crane accidents & 3 of them were rigging errors.
i guarantee you that in NYC the accidents will be found to be caused by not bracing the tower of the crane correctly .
i have seen 2 cranes tump over before they ever made a pick. the outriggers were jacked up. they were set up buy guys with litle experience. the prima donna operators would not even get out & look at what was about to happen to them.
i bet i have been invoved in at least 2000 crane picks

i just think that there are lots of guys who don't have a clue, involved in major responsibilities now.

i respect the Granbury flathead record more though


Are you bragging or beotching?

I have been involved in at least 2001 crane picks and 300+ helicopter picks so I must be smarter and better at it then you right?
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#2491579 - 07/26/08 05:57 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: Tejasbasshunter]
butch sanders Offline
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no not at all better
helicopter picks are easy

and setting HVAC equipment is a little different than structural picks.

you pretty comfortable with the guys out there rigging this for you?

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#2512062 - 08/02/08 04:48 AM Re: Crane Accidents [Re: butch sanders]
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