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#2278329 - 05/19/08 05:43 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
AlpooplA Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 100
Originally Posted By: Golden Ghost
what species of gar?


Don't really know. I haven't seen them enough to be able to recognize them apart yet.
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#2278330 - 05/19/08 05:45 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: AlpooplA]
El Guahpo Offline
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Nice gator gar GG!
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#2278669 - 05/19/08 07:19 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: El Guahpo]
Bubbadass1 Offline
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thumb way to go Golden Gar Ghost awesome fish/pic
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#2278749 - 05/19/08 07:40 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
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Nice, GG.
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#2279203 - 05/19/08 09:24 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Smile-n-Nod]
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Thanks Guys!
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#2279243 - 05/19/08 09:32 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
Relic Offline
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Looks like your new nickname is going to be Golden Gar.
Great fish.

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#2279258 - 05/19/08 09:34 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Relic]
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why not Gator Gar?
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#2279504 - 05/19/08 10:16 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
Relic Offline
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Sounds good to me.

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#2279539 - 05/19/08 10:26 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Relic]
Bubbadass1 Offline
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so Dustin....if ya don't mind me asking what was your bait of choice? i know a while back your were gathering info on gar fishing smile
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#2279649 - 05/19/08 10:54 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Bubbadass1]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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No secret..... My bait of choice is cut Mullet. A mullet about a foot long cut in half is my fav size to use. But I got a ton of bites on cut hardhead catfish too (saltwater catfish).

GG
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#2279775 - 05/19/08 11:33 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
AlpooplA Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
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Originally Posted By: Golden Ghost
No secret..... My bait of choice is cut Mullet. A mullet about a foot long cut in half is my fav size to use. But I got a ton of bites on cut hardhead catfish too (saltwater catfish).

GG


Thanks!!! I would love to catch and release one of these beauties.

Are they picky eaters, or will 6" of most any cut fish work? What about raw meat kitchen leftovers/cutaways?

Can I also ask what setup you used? If using bobber, how deep below is the bait?
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#2279812 - 05/19/08 11:40 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: AlpooplA]
AlpooplA Offline
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Registered: 04/24/08
Posts: 100
Originally Posted By: AlpooplA


...We saw hundreds of these Gar flopping and rolling around.


We blanked out trying to fish that day for bass, crappie, and carp. can the presence of large numbers of gar clear out fish from an entire area?
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#2279836 - 05/19/08 11:46 AM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: AlpooplA]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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My set up....

Your going to need large cut baits for the big one's, most people use carp, and buffalo, But I caught these on cut Skip jack (ladyfish), mullet, hardhead catfish, and bowfin.

For rigging, I use a slip float rig (see picture below).
Its just a 6ft 170lb wire leader, a 7/0 mustad J-hook, 1oz running lead, and a running float.
Your going to need to know how to tie a float stop knot.
Set the stop knot at *twice* the depth of the water your fishing, as the float is just for showing the fishes position while it's running.


Ok, now that you have your bait, and rigs ready, when you find the spot your going to fish, cast, or boat your bait out to the shallows. Set your reel to clicker, for free spool and wait for the fish to run!
When it runs, it will start moving off with the float in trail. once the gar stops running, then start moving again, set the hook, as he has swallowed the bait. Now get ready for a fish few fish can provide!

How I land the gar is by putting a rope around the gar *Under his pectoral fins* and lift in to the boat.
Then *Get out of the way* because his is going to thrash. after his done thrashing, this toothy critter is very docile for the most part.

Now remember, they swallow the bait, so you can not get your hook back, so just cut the wire leader as close to his mouth as you can. Then be sure to take pics, and release him safely, if you don't plan to eat them. wink


Gar will bite! Keep your limbs out of the way of the gar!


GG
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#2280073 - 05/19/08 12:33 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
Bubbadass1 Offline
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Registered: 07/12/07
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Loc: garland tx/ray hubbard
nice detail..thanks Dustin smile
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#2280746 - 05/19/08 03:09 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Bubbadass1]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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No Problem...
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#2281061 - 05/19/08 04:51 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
jeff@1 Offline
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Registered: 10/02/06
Posts: 836
Loc: lewisville-fishin at the 'vine
Originally Posted By: Golden Ghost
My set up....

Your going to need large cut baits for the big one's, most people use carp, and buffalo, But I caught these on cut Skip jack (ladyfish), mullet, hardhead catfish, and bowfin.

For rigging, I use a slip float rig (see picture below).
Its just a 6ft 170lb wire leader, a 7/0 mustad J-hook, 1oz running lead, and a running float.
Your going to need to know how to tie a float stop knot.
Set the stop knot at *twice* the depth of the water your fishing, as the float is just for showing the fishes position while it's running.


Ok, now that you have your bait, and rigs ready, when you find the spot your going to fish, cast, or boat your bait out to the shallows. Set your reel to clicker, for free spool and wait for the fish to run!
When it runs, it will start moving off with the float in trail. once the gar stops running, then start moving again, set the hook, as he has swallowed the bait. Now get ready for a fish few fish can provide!

How I land the gar is by putting a rope around the gar *Under his pectoral fins* and lift in to the boat.
Then *Get out of the way* because his is going to thrash. after his done thrashing, this toothy critter is very docile for the most part.

Now remember, they swallow the bait, so you can not get your hook back, so just cut the wire leader as close to his mouth as you can. Then be sure to take pics, and release him safely, if you don't plan to eat them. wink


Gar will bite! Keep your limbs out of the way of the gar!


GG



AKA - the GG rig
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#2281103 - 05/19/08 05:06 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: jeff@1]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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lol... Yeah.

I can't really take credit for the rig due to the fact I got it by watching in-fisherman when Mr. Kirkland was on.

GG
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#2281129 - 05/19/08 05:13 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
Big Ted Offline
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Registered: 02/11/07
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Loc: San Antonio
Quote:
no sir, the drum was 50-60lbs, where as the gar was about 30.



Um, that is what I said. Are you getting at what I am telling you?
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#2281204 - 05/19/08 05:35 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Big Ted]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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Oh Ok... I miss read your post.
Sorry.
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#2281234 - 05/19/08 05:47 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
fishlady Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Athens
You just have to know how to handle them. I still have all my fingers...

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#2281248 - 05/19/08 05:50 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: fishlady]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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Registered: 02/22/07
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Loc: Texas.....duh
Nice gator gar! How do yall catch them in that big enclosure?
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#2281263 - 05/19/08 05:54 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: Snaggletooth]
fishlady Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: Athens
It was brought to us. We were nursing it back to health. We used 2 nets to corral it and then just picked it up. I've handled several large gator gar and have been just fine. You just have to know what you're doing. wink
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#2281619 - 05/19/08 07:15 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: fishlady]
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Very cool!
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#2281640 - 05/19/08 07:18 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: fishlady]
buffaloman chris Offline
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Registered: 04/15/07
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Loc: mexia tx
are you sure krista it shows three fingers in that pic by the mouth lol
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#2281646 - 05/19/08 07:19 PM Re: Woo Hoo!!!! New PB Alligator Gar!!! [Re: buffaloman chris]
Snaggletooth Online   content
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lol...it does!
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