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#2252513 - 05/10/08 03:35 PM chinese jumping carp pics
PI bassfisher Offline
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i dont know the technical name for these fish, but on the mississippi river they call them chinese jumping carp, they put up a crazy fight
45# and 35#

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#2252571 - 05/10/08 04:14 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
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Nice fish! Those are Silver Carp, I believe, though actually quite unrelated to the common carp that's naturalized here in Texas. I'd have to ask Fishlady for the scientific name lol. Supposed to be good eating though, they oughta send net crews out on the river to try and get as many as they can, and have a giant fish fry hehe.
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#2252589 - 05/10/08 04:24 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Starless Dragon]
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well the commercial neters on the river have been trying to sell them at fish markets in mississippi, but not doing to good.
i fileted one up one time, way too boney, did not seem worth the meat, and i think they are plankton eaters
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#2253210 - 05/10/08 11:00 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
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Loc: San Marcos
Did you guys bowfish them?
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#2253356 - 05/11/08 05:22 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: MesquiteMan]
AL Bay Stealth Online   content
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Yeah how did you catch them?
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#2253512 - 05/11/08 06:26 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: AL Bay Stealth]
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Never knew those existed. Great pics!!! How did you catch them?
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#2253634 - 05/11/08 07:08 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Dirty Bass]
Big Ted Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Dirty Bass
Never knew those existed. Great pics!!! How did you catch them?




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#2253652 - 05/11/08 07:16 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
Big Ted Online   content
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a lot more of this needs to happen




this is what you call a "target rich environment"

These fish were stocked in pond to control weeds and filter the ponds. When the Mississippi river flooded they got loose and exploded in population

i say we need to exterminate these fish as quickly as possible
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#2254311 - 05/11/08 12:41 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Big Ted]
Jason Johonnesson Offline
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Agreed. This is a very good example of an invasive species as opposed to a naturalized species. These are definitely invasive.
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#2255248 - 05/11/08 07:39 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Jason Johonnesson]
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Thats pretty scary
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#2255575 - 05/12/08 01:13 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Barn Door Blake]
PI bassfisher Offline
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Loc: mesquite, tx
they will eat tiney jigs, we caught them right next to a wall beside a damn, very good fight i might add. all though they are not very easy to catch cause i think that they plankton eaters, not to sure though
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#2255576 - 05/12/08 01:13 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
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i have snagged some too, cause they are everywhere
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#2255816 - 05/12/08 05:21 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
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booooom c4


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#2255922 - 05/12/08 06:04 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: slayden457]
Roddy 69r Offline
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Nice!
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#2256799 - 05/12/08 10:38 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Roddy 69r]
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Loc: Waxahachie, TX
Looks like a great supply for protein feeds and fertilizer. Plenty of them there!
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#2256920 - 05/12/08 11:06 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: AL Bay Stealth]
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Registered: 11/09/06
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Loc: Mesquite TX
When I lived in MS I had them jump out and hit the boat and land in the boat. Those things are a big problem.

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#2257222 - 05/12/08 12:21 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: lure buddy]
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I bet those do fight
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#2257244 - 05/12/08 12:26 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: AsleepattheReel]
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Loc: mesquite, tx
i had one jump out and hit me in the head doing 50mph, it hurt like hell
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#2257936 - 05/12/08 03:31 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: PI bassfisher]
Big Ted Online   content
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Loc: San Antonio
there should be a bowfishing tourney there every day for these things
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#2259273 - 05/12/08 09:52 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Big Ted]
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Loc: San Marcos
Originally Posted By: Big Ted
there should be a bowfishing tourney there every day for these things


Yeah but what should you do with them? According to many over in the rough fish section, it is illegal to kill a fish if you do not intend to eat it or use it for bait. shocked If you kill as mnay of them as needs to be killed, you would not be able to eat them all.
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#2259360 - 05/13/08 03:19 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: MesquiteMan]
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Originally Posted By: MesquiteMan
Originally Posted By: Big Ted
there should be a bowfishing tourney there every day for these things


Yeah but what should you do with them? According to many over in the rough fish section, it is illegal to kill a fish if you do not intend to eat it or use it for bait. shocked If you kill as mnay of them as needs to be killed, you would not be able to eat them all.


MesquiteMan lets not start this. Big Ted is a carper and so am I and we have already posted in this thread. This is an "invasive species" and it does not exist in Texas. Lets not hijack this thread.
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#2260444 - 05/13/08 10:10 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: Jason Johonnesson]
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Loc: San Marcos
Jason,

This was a serious question. There are a number of folks that insist that the law does not diferientiate between types of fish. That was brought up in a different discussion. It either does or doesn't. My question remains...what should one do with a bunch of silvers that they have tried to erradicate from a river system if they have way more than they can eat?
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#2260516 - 05/13/08 10:32 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: MesquiteMan]
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Loc: TX, of course.
If it wan indeed serious here are your answers:

It isn't "some people in the rough section" that say it is against the law to waste edible fish, it is the State of Texas.

Furthermore, the waste of fish laws and the invasive species list are separate.

Even furthermore, the laws of Texas do not apply to the Mississippi river.



All that said, the human race has shown great ability to deal with this sort of stuff inn the past.

I have not tasted these fish, but they *can* be eaten. If nothing else, animal feed, fish sticks, etc, etc.

I suspect that we couldn't tell the difference from these fish and the cod that are ground up and pressed into weird shapes. Just a thought.
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#2260552 - 05/13/08 10:45 AM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: fwbret/txfishes]
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They are trying to use them for feed at the zoo's. Have not followed the project but it sounded good. I think that nature will find its own way of killing them off, though a HUGE BF tourney and fish fry sounds good to me! Sooner or later they will find a natural balance. Lets just hope its before we lose any other species. Invasive as hell and compete with bait fish and fry for plankton.

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#2262475 - 05/13/08 07:43 PM Re: chinese jumping carp pics [Re: SSF]
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They can kill a man.
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