ok guys, heres the story, i bought a boat from a guy and I went to take it out the first time and the darn thing will not start...When i looked at the boat the guy started it first try and it ran for atleast 5 minutes...I don't know much of anything about motors but i assumed it ran well after that...I have been looking at it with my dad, and i am noticing gas coming out of the carburator...a good amount of drips..is this normal? what can I do? I am guessing the engine to be 80's or 90's...thanks guys this is my first boat and I was super excited just to get to the lake ready to fish and no go on the engine :\

Sounds like it is flooding. You may need to rebuild the carbs, or at least take them apart and clean them.

Probally need the carbs rebuilt...Sounds like a needle and seat sticking...Or float could be cracked allowing it to fill up with gas.....Give me a call or pm...

hey spanky...i think your a tad bit too far, im down in san antone...after reading online what you guys are saying is actually what i was thinking! gotta love the internet...how much does it usually cost for a carb rebuild? Could this task be done by a novice? Thanks guys for your swift replies, im trying to get on the water soon!!! just earlier it "kinda" started for a couple seconds then dies...

one more thing in addition to the above... Does just regular ol 2cycle engine oil work? like the kind you add to a weed-eater? I sure hope so because that is whatI added today, at a 50:1 ratio..... I don't think that was the problem because i tried using my dads gastank from his boat and it wouldn't start either...

are u choking it while starting???? Or giving it a lil throttle whike cranking it.... I know my merc did the same thing i was choking it and loading it up with gas and not giving it any air so it wouldn't start..

well will...we have tried both ways...it was smelling like gas after a few cranks so we stopped loading it up with gas...we tried choke/no choke...letting it sit, then trying aggain in an hour...never givin it throttle with the shifter, but there is a lever the guy said to pull up to start (im assuming it's the fast idle lever) that we pull up...we even tried NOT using that lever aswell...hope that helps

check the kill switch

stick steering...that's what my dad was thinking...where is thekill switch???? just FYI guys...today was a new day...i said "why the hell not try" first turn of the key...no choke, no fast idle..started up and ran good...while it was running we sprayed a little carb cleaner and wd40 in the carb...seemed to be running good!!! just like it did when i bought it!! Thanks guys for your help! I will definetely come back if anything pops up...hopefully after the spurs game today i can take her for a actual lake test

Don't spray carb cleaner in it. You are diluting the oil/gas. You do that too much, and you'll cause massive ring failure. Same with WD-40. WD-40 is a degreaser.

If the engine isn't running right, get it fixed. Most mechanics charge an hour per carb, plus kits.

I'm not trying to be abrasive, contrary. I'm trying to keep you from having to do a rebuild.

Just remember, spraying Carb Cleaner in a 2 stroke is not a good thing.

what about starting fluid? I still think the carb isn't running "right" we can get it started, but sometimes have to spray starting fluid in the carb...Should I avoid that too???

Yes, avoid starting fluid. You've got a problem & like Michael said get it fixed now before it cost you more later.

ok, thanks guys...do you all think the carb needs to be rebuilt? I can get it started and it will stay running...I did notice that I was giving it gas in forward letting it run bout mid throttle for a min or two, then upon returing to nuetral it starts to sound like it's going to die, or it dies... This all go along with what yall sayin? the carb rebuild thing... THANKS A BUNCH GUYS!!!!!

If you can get to it ,try tapping on the carb with something. a stuck float can be freed up sometimes.

how would i know if it's the float that is stuck? how would i know the float got "un-stuck"?? Sorry these questions are pretty lame, but this is my first boat and I have very very limited knowledge with motors and such...thanks for your patience guys

this is what she is running like today...she actually stays started...i really don't think i need a full rebuild do you guys think? in the video, notice the "hiccups" at 9seconds, :18-:25 seconds, and :41-:45...when it did die, it actually started right back up afterwards, which is wasn't doing before...

You need to get the motor looked at...If you keep running it and have a cylinder leaning out your asking for trouble..Probally needs new fuel pump carb job... Also put a better filter on the motor...Looks like the water pump could be weak....What kinda gas tank metal or plastic?Pump some gas in a jar and let it sit a while ...See if you see any water in gas...You had stated that gas was runing out one of the carbs...Somebody needs to look at carbs..

I guess i would mix up some sea foam with the gas, bout 2 ounces per gallon and run that in there to see if it fixes it or not and then get it checked out if that dont fix things.

matt

spanky, today i didn't notice any gas leaking out of the carbs...I am going to get it looked at this week sometime...trying to find a good reputible mechanic...it's a plastic tank BTW..i checked the filter thats before the gas gets to the carb, it was clean, and the filter in the gas line iinstalled is clear too...just so you know the gas im using is comeing from my dads boat tank and it ran his boat fine last outing...I am pretty much down to paying out the arse and getting her fixed i think...i've exhausted all my options!!!

EDIT: doesn't the water pump make the pee-stream? the engine does have a pee stream, a good stream...

another thing...i have looked this thing over and over again, i CANNOT find a serial number at all...I am trying to find out what year the motor is exactly...thanks

a carb rebuild is cheap insurance id do it

The color scheme on your motor says its anywhere from a 78 to 82 model. The hiccup you hear on the video is a lean running condition. It will acutally backfire through the intake when the mix is too lean. I'm not sure the carb is lean however, as you are running it on a hose. They don't have enough back pressure on the exhaust on a hose as opposed to being in the water. It may not lean "spit" in the water. As for the flooding situation, pump the primer bulb and look for fuel leaking out the vent hole in the top of the carb body. If fuel runs out you have a flooding conditon. Suzukis usually flood due to the needle and seat being dirty. It has a steel needle and a brass seat and cleaning will usually take care of it.The carb is easy to fix.

now the problem is trying to find a carb rebuild kit for that year of engine :\ ...i can get it done for $140 doest that sound right?

so does that mean this motor is stolen, and now I am using a stolen motor on my boat? there is no suzuki serial plate where it should be... :\ ...im starting to regret this purchase more and more... could anyone tell me if this carb kit wouuld work for my engine either way because the shops around here say they have to know he exact year, but this kit online says it fits ALL dt40's...what im thinking is it's just a universal kit and you probably only use 2-3 or those gaskets??? someone please help me end this nightmare

link to kit ----> http://store.brownspoint.com/detail.asp?product_id=13910-94400

the way I remember it, suzuki had two kits for the inline style motors. Most of the time when I have done carb work on suzukis the kits were not even needed. tap the bowl loose with a screwdriver handle befor you pull it off and you will save that gasket. the base gasket rarely tears when the carb is pulled.and the needle & seat gasket can be re-used. Clean all the parts good with mercury power tune and check to be sure the float level is correct. the pilot jet in the top of the carb is the most spot for idle problems and the main jet for high speed. the main jet is located at the bottom of the pickup tube. Good luck.