On the norm i am on the bass section of this forum. but looking around i found this section. if anyone is interested in custom rods with quality blacks and made to your specs pm me and ill give you a mans name and number that does this. A couple of months ago i bought some more Loomis rods and a week later i found this man through a guide i used from Lake Fork. I went ahead and him make a 2 of these custom rods. i picked my length and action and got my handles the way i wanted them. picked my color of thread and so forth. He even uses an extra eye or two that really seemed to help. Put my name on the rods as well. fished them now for a bit and i use them more than the loomis or any other rod. I think they are loomis blanks or the same as. not sure on that one. but they are lighter with my handle i piced than my loomis rods. they just feel better. im not associated with this man and just have his first name and number. but he is local. just thought if some one wants a rod that is as good as the loomis and custom and a fraction of the cost then i know the man. pm if you want his info.