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#2041921 - 03/05/08 07:11 PM Back problems during a Tourny
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Man that standing for 8+ hours is starting to take its toll. Just a tightness in lower back. Then I Can't really fish effectively sitting like Bill Dance. So a stand like alot of others do. I'm open to any ideas tips or trick. Having wife rub lower back while I fish probably a no go.

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#2041951 - 03/05/08 07:17 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Soft Tap]
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Get a few girlfriends to do the rubbin. They can take turns if it gets to bad. Quit fishin? NOT

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#2042011 - 03/05/08 07:24 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Soft Tap]
Dan Gleason Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Soft Tap
Man that standing for 8+ hours is starting to take its toll. Just a tightness in lower back. Then I Can't really fish effectively sitting like Bill Dance. So a stand like alot of others do. I'm open to any ideas tips or trick. Having wife rub lower back while I fish probably a no go.


Hydrocodone works for me
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#2042042 - 03/05/08 07:28 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Trickster]
Guide Ray Vereen Offline
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Have you tried using a butt seat that you can raise/lean on instead of sitting. I've been raising the seat so that when I lean on it, it is in the small of my back. Although, the girlfriend ideas sounds good.

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#2042051 - 03/05/08 07:29 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Dan Gleason]
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Check an office supply place for one of those anti-fatigue mats that they put in for cashiers that stand around all day and cut it to fit the front deck where you stand. That is what many of the boat manufacturers are putting under the carpet on the front deck on the new boats. Take a pain reliever before you get on the water, and get a power pedestal with a leaning seat to lean back against to take some strain off. Just some ideas.
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#2042064 - 03/05/08 07:30 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Steve_FBC]
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How about exercising the stomach muscles? It's the only real solution to lower back pain. The stronger the abs are the better the posture.

And no, I'm not a good example! \:D \:D \:D
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#2042118 - 03/05/08 07:37 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: K.D.]
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Cabela's has a back brace. It is listed with the Gore-Tex rainwear. Their Guide Series. They give it away with a set. Try liquid gel caps ibuprophen.
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#2042146 - 03/05/08 07:42 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Big Red 12]
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at lunchtime, take 800 mg of Ibuprofen( 4 of the 200mg tablets). it works for me.
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#2042191 - 03/05/08 07:51 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: SkeeterRonnie]
MTGMAN Offline
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What are you talking about Kelly ?? Your a perfect example. I've seen you before on those 20 minute abs commercials.

I think Steve pretty much hit it on the head with the addition to crunches as part of your daily regimen.
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#2042215 - 03/05/08 07:54 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: MTGMAN]
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putting in a trolling motor recessed pedal tray did more for mine than anything...
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#2042228 - 03/05/08 07:57 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Dan Gleason]
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Hydrocodone works for me [/quote]


I second that.
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#2042477 - 03/05/08 08:54 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: 2fastr1]
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icy hot back pads are good

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#2042491 - 03/05/08 08:58 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: basspromaster]
kevin01 Offline
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I have two herniated discs and the only thing that has helped besides the epidural steroid shots was meloxocam, Good stuff and its not addictive.
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#2042492 - 03/05/08 08:58 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: basspromaster]
kevin01 Offline
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I have two herniated discs and the only thing that has helped besides the epidural steroid shots was meloxocam, Good stuff and its not addictive.


Edited by kevin01 (03/05/08 08:58 PM)
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#2042809 - 03/06/08 04:46 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Soft Tap]
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 Originally Posted By: Soft Tap
Man that standing for 8+ hours is starting to take its toll. Just a tightness in lower back. Then I Can't really fish effectively sitting like Bill Dance. So a stand like alot of others do. I'm open to any ideas tips or trick. Having wife rub lower back while I fish probably a no go.


Its not the standing. Its that Pro Craft you have.

The only real info I have for you is get really good shock absorbing shoes. Like jogging shoes.

I am sure that working out the abs would help a bunch. But prolly not many of us fixin to get started on that.
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#2042833 - 03/06/08 04:57 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: THE202ZX]
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Lose weight if your overweight.

Work out and get in shape.

Install a flat foot

Use a butt seat to lean against.
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#2042845 - 03/06/08 05:00 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: THE202ZX]
DEETS Offline
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Registered: 06/21/05
Posts: 167
Loc: AZLE, TEXAS
Recessed trolling motor control. This may sound dumb but a have a pair of running shoes that I only wear fishing. They have lots of cushion and I don't wear them everyday so they aren't broken down. It has made a difference for me.

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#2042989 - 03/06/08 05:49 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: DEETS]
Chris Tilton Moderator Offline
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Urkel quit that whining you are in the best shape of any of us out there! ;-)

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#2043028 - 03/06/08 06:00 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Chris Tilton]
Eric Gandy Offline
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Chasing possums through the brush helps sometimes.

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#2043073 - 03/06/08 06:16 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Eric Gandy]
MV Offline
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KD and RedRangers advice. Stretching your back and ham strings will help alot.Start the advil the night before.

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#2043189 - 03/06/08 06:46 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: K.D.]
CDavid Offline
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 Originally Posted By: K.D.
How about exercising the stomach muscles? It's the only real solution to lower back pain. The stronger the abs are the better the posture.

And no, I'm not a good example! \:D \:D \:D


This is the key 100 crunches a day keep back pain away
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#2043192 - 03/06/08 06:48 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: MV]
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Get one of those electronic back massage things. I use one for my neck and lower back...
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#2043345 - 03/06/08 07:24 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: John175 ®]
SkeeterRonnie Offline
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 Originally Posted By: John175 ®
Get one of those electronic back massage things. I use one for my neck and lower back...
LMAO!! suuuure ya do!
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#2043531 - 03/06/08 08:18 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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I have the same trouble and have for years. What I find works well for me is:

1. stay away from coffee and caffeine while fishing...it tightens your muscles believe it or not.

2. Sit down and stretch by placing your head between your knees once in a while...like when retying or changing lures.

3. Do some stretching like toe touches before you even get in the boat to loosen up those muscles a bit.


I've got pretty good abs for my age and always have, but I have that low back ache when I stand like you do.
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#2043608 - 03/06/08 08:36 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: jignpig]
evolution44 Offline
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I've got about 4-5 levels of DDD - and really need fusions at multiple levels as well. I struggle w/back pain and will until I get cut on. Two things that have helped me have been going through about 10 minutes of stretching my back muscles out prior to starting the day, and secondly, wearing good shoes. You really can't go wrong w/anything made by New Balance...

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#2043693 - 03/06/08 08:59 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: MTGMAN]
ScottABA Offline
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Take (4) vicodins and (4) soma's! You will be amazed how many colorful fish you will see! Also, lots of fun when you watch the "Three Stooges"!!
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#2043719 - 03/06/08 09:08 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: ScottABA]
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Loc: Colorado City
I have had back problems off and on till I finally realized after I retired that I had to keep in shape to fish. Not talking about football days shape but I walk on a treadmill and at the lake just about every afternoon with teh wife and also we bought a stairstepper made by AirGometer DP for Life. I do it about four times a week and ride the stationary bike to keep my casting arms in shape...Seems if the legs are muscled then my back problems don't show up...Also the new boat has the recessed trolling motor and it helps....Never tried crunches but that might help they would be similar to the thearpy they gave me the last time it went out. As mentioned above stretch a bunch.
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#2043966 - 03/06/08 10:19 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: jignpig]
mark111 Offline
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Hydrocodone and Tramadol helps but does'nt get rid of it.I'm scheduled for an epidural injection.I have DDD in L-3,4,5 and S-1.

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#2044405 - 03/06/08 12:12 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: THE202ZX]
Soft Tap Offline
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 Originally Posted By: THE202ZX
 Originally Posted By: Soft Tap
Man that standing for 8+ hours is starting to take its toll. Just a tightness in lower back. Then I Can't really fish effectively sitting like Bill Dance. So a stand like alot of others do. I'm open to any ideas tips or trick. Having wife rub lower back while I fish probably a no go.


Its not the standing. Its that Pro Craft you have.

The only real info I have for you is get really good shock absorbing shoes. Like jogging shoes.

I am sure that working out the abs would help a bunch. But prolly not many of us fixin to get started on that.


LOL Easy 202ZX you'll be needing to borrow more duck tape told hold them batteries down on the Skeeter again soon.

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#2044420 - 03/06/08 12:15 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Dan Gleason]
Domn8tor~202 Offline
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Registered: 08/22/07
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I take MOTRIN... it works and has a muscle type relaxer. I double the dose... and my bloating even has gone away.... But it does help better than the other stuff over the counter I have taken...
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#2044950 - 03/06/08 02:19 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Soft Tap]
kevin01 Offline
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Registered: 06/15/04
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Hey Mark111, I do not know if you have had those injections before, but I will forewarn you; they SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2045003 - 03/06/08 02:32 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: kingdad101]
Lucky Al Offline
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 Originally Posted By: kingdad101
putting in a trolling motor recessed pedal tray did more for mine than anything...
I just added one to my boat and so far, it seem to help. I use a butt seat and alternate between leaning, standing and sitting. Also, I use Aleve sometimes.

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#2045317 - 03/06/08 03:40 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Lucky Al]
mark111 Offline
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They tell me they'll give me vercid. Won't remember nuttin. I've heard that before.

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#2045566 - 03/06/08 04:30 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: mark111]
kevin01 Offline
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They did not put me out or give me anything and it was pretty bad. Its takes all of about 3 minutes but it was almost unbearable.
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#2045852 - 03/06/08 05:39 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: jignpig]
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exercise regularly, stretch excercises EVERY MORNING, lose weight, butt seat....good shoes.....chiropractor.....these work for me....i still get stiffness....jes part of gettin old.....LOL
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#2045856 - 03/06/08 05:39 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Soft Tap]
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Stretch the hamstrings two to three times per down while resting leg on the side of the bed or couch. Do a ten second hold and breathe.

100 crunches will strengthen back and stomach muscles.

Eat a low carb, high protein diet to lose weight.

There are some really good stretching and strengthening programs on the Sacroiliac Resources website. A physical therapist by the name of Don Tigney, I believe.

I also use an inversion table regularly to stretch everything out. When I have problems, I use it twice a day for no more than 10 minutes with a 45 degree angle or more. Check with physician first in case you have other healthy problems that might be adversely affected by this.

These are just things that have really helped me get over some of my previous back pain problems.

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#2046433 - 03/06/08 07:24 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: hawglipper]
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jignpig has some great ideas. Just don't pass out from the rush of blood to your head.
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#2046572 - 03/06/08 08:03 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: kevin01]
Z21 Cranker Offline
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 Originally Posted By: kevin01
They did not put me out or give me anything and it was pretty bad. Its takes all of about 3 minutes but it was almost unbearable.


Did it help though? I have a bulging disc at L3 and L4 and they suggested that as my next option before any surgery. Is an epidural the same as steroid injections?? I stretch every morning for about 15 minutes and I have to be very careful with how I bend over or lift things. I see a chiropractor once every 2 weeks to keep aligned. Lower back pain sucks because it affects everything you do...walking, driving, sitting, even moving your legs hurts.

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#2047671 - 03/07/08 08:00 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: Z21 Cranker]
evolution44 Offline
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Epidural injections (I got both steroids and diagnostic blocks(painkillers) did nothing for me except take $$ out of my wallet, and inflict pain. I got the vercid prior too...about 4 shots of it...didn't work

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#2047708 - 03/07/08 08:13 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: evolution44]
mark111 Offline
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Evo, thanks for telling me the injection I'm getting in a few weeks won't work,lol. I have been taking Tramadol/Hydro for 10 years and I have become immune to it. Your right about the good shoes. I am on my feet at work all the time and the wolverine boots help the best. They just are not the handiest in the boat.

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#2047739 - 03/07/08 08:20 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: mark111]
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you can also get your partner to come run the trolling motor for about 10 minutes, and lay flat on the back deck- make sure and throw out a c-rig and drag it along while you are laying there \:\)
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#2047880 - 03/07/08 08:53 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: SkeeterRonnie]
h2o Offline
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HERE'S MY TAKE, FINALLY AFTER FIVE YEARS OF INJECTIONS, PAIN MEDS, PT, I WILL GO UNDER THE KNIFE IN LATE JUNE, WITH A TOTAL DISC REPLACEMENT AND THEN TWO FUSIONS. 85% THAT IT WILL WORK AND I WILL ONLY BE OUT 2 WEEKS. DOC SAID THE SURGERY WILL WORK BUT WILL NOT PROMISE ME MY FISHING WILL IMPROVE. I AM GETTING A RECESSED FOOT PEDAL ALSO. ALL THE IDEAS SUCH AS THE STRETCHING, BEFORE AND AFTER FISHING, EVEN DURING HELPS, PAIN MEDS HELP BUT DO NOT RID THE PAIN, TEMPORARY SOLUTION.

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#2047967 - 03/07/08 09:11 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: h2o]
New Texan Offline
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Shoes can make all the difference. I had a situation where twice I almost couldn't get out of bed the next morning after fishing. Figured out it was simply a new pair of Reeboks I had just bought with squishy heels. I've switched to flat bottomed "skateboarder" shoes like Vans or Airwalk and never had a problem since. 10+ years.

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#2047987 - 03/07/08 09:18 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: New Texan]
MTGMAN Offline
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I keep seeing recessed foot pedal come up.....How do you "GET" a recessed foot pedal? Doesn't the boat come built from the factory with the recessed section of deck for the foot pedal to sit into? Well, most of em' anyway.
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#2048215 - 03/07/08 10:25 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: New Texan]
SkeeterRonnie Offline
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 Originally Posted By: New Texan
Shoes can make all the difference. I had a situation where twice I almost couldn't get out of bed the next morning after fishing. Figured out it was simply a new pair of Reeboks I had just bought with squishy heels. I've switched to flat bottomed "skateboarder" shoes like Vans or Airwalk and never had a problem since. 10+ years.


i didnt notice this until you said it.. but- when I wear my good sneakers my back hurts. in the summer, I wear my crocks- and it doenst hurt. or if I stand barefooted it wont hurt.. hmmm !
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#2048223 - 03/07/08 10:26 AM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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#2048606 - 03/07/08 12:15 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: mark111]
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 Originally Posted By: mark111
Evo, thanks for telling me the injection I'm getting in a few weeks won't work,lol. I have been taking Tramadol/Hydro for 10 years and I have become immune to it.


They work for some folks. Word of advice...if you're immune to hydrocodone and tramadol, let them know that...your tolerance will negate the effects the vercid (or whatever it's called) that they give you before the actual epidurals (like it did me).

Their next step was to put the epidural needles in and shoot electricity down them to "burn" the nerves.... no thanks!

I'm shooting for a multi-level disc replacement the next time anyone goes to messing w/my spine.

Good luck...and if you don't have one already...get a Champion...that helps

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#2049244 - 03/07/08 02:44 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: evolution44]
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The epidural steroids did help some, but its more of a quick fix. I have two friends that have had the discs fused and now the one above and below are bulging now. Just some other info.
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#2049866 - 03/07/08 05:30 PM Re: Back problems during a Tourny [Re: kevin01]
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I have 5 discs bad lower back I have had 7 injection 2nd MRI Tuesday go see about surgery 3- 25 -08. The best thing for me is mobic 7.5mg it help me get by.GOOD LUCK TO ALL WITH BACK PAIN IT'S NOT FUN!!!
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