Just saw this on a different forum and I thought that I would post a link to it. This blue cat was caught in mississippi.
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_120615.asp

That thing is insane.

WOW

Holy Sheite thats a bigun. I'm not too sure I would have wanted that thing in my boat either . He might have been mad.

Awesome blue! Sure wish he would have had it weighed and measured.

Thats for a huge fish. I really suspect to see the world record be shattered in the near future and this might have been it with out a good frame of reference it hard to say. With the EPA restrictions that have been in place for many years now I think we starting to see the countries major river start to produce they way they did man years ago. I have seen very old photos of monster blues that are much larger than anything I have ever seen in recent times.

I'm not an expert on Blue Cats - but does the head look flat on the 2nd picture? It almost reminds me of the Giant Mekong Catfish that reaches great weights. HUGE FISH!

Wow, ignoring its size that is a BEAUTIFUL fish! I just want to pet it or something, like a dolphin lol.

dats a beeg won uf dem beeg ole dang catfish

Over on wwww.catfish1.com website, Tony Farrar did the following measurements based on the size of the can in the background. Does anyone have the measurements on SPLASH....?

what a beast!

Here is another picture of the same fish. Any guess what this beast would have weighted? [img][/img]

prolly weighed around 45 to 50 lbs ... it's a photoshop blow up ya'll. it's easy to see the edit lines on there where they used the lasso in photoshop to cut it out of the original photo and blew it up and then pasted it back on there ... there's several editing mistakes they didn't cover up as one of the guy's fingertips was cut off when they edited it and stuff like that. the pixel distortion is evident also as the pixels of the fish's head are very large compared to the background pixels. that's what happens when you blow up a photo and then paste it back on the original is you get some distortion and you can see the distortion when you zoom in on the photo with photoshop.

I was going to state it's not a fake until I saw the feathered edges around the fin:


Plus....c'mon..the guy's dressed to fish, he has a ton of gear, rope, etc. Obviously if he caught a fish that big, he would have done everything possible to bring the fish in.

I was hoping the gene pool of the glory day Blues wasn't completely killed off. errr...

WHAT A FISH ....

I don't believe that would give a good measurement due to the fact the can is so much further back in the pic, I would guess about 3ft or more, the measurements would be longer on the cat which is alot closer. It sure looked real, I didn't realize what you could do with photoshop.

THE PAPER SAYS IT IS A REAL FISH ,NOT BLOWN UP .. WHO ???

Maybe it was photoshopped & faked, but my gut says this is legit - besides, he's not trying to get the catch certified as a record or anything like that.

Gorgeous catfish - I hope to meet one like that someday.

If this was a CPR fish, I was just wondering why he had to put a rope thru his gills If he was going to let it go. Wouldn't that do some damage to his gills. Not a very good lesson for a catch and release fish if you ask me. I will take Tiny's word on the photo as i don't know anything about changing one. Just know how to take the photo. Ok, just my 2 cents.

Probable World Record Catfish????
How can anyone say this is a world record when the fish was not certified. I not sure but Cabel's has a reward of $100,000.00 for a world record. You can't tell me he turned it back knowing it could be a new WORLD RECORD and worth big bucks.If the fish was real again I said if, its sad it was not certified.
Have call BS on this one.

If you blow it up in photoshop you can see the pixels of the fish are 4 times the size of the background pixels and you can see in the edit on one of the pictures that the guy or gal that did the photoshopping cropped part of the dude's finger off .. I'll show ya what I mean as you can only get that kind of effect from a photoshopping blow up and past on using the lasso

here's the mistakes they made by photoshopping it ... here's where they cropped off part of the finger with the photoshop lasso


here is the original photo I took the top pic from and if you look at his index finger you can see that there is something wrong with the finger or it looks like it's pointed. This is a common error you get from faking a photo.


also on that second pic there appears to be a line on top of the fish's head where it meets the background water ... that's because of the lasso can't follow the line of whatever you're lasso'n perfectly and it creates a stair step effect of the distorted pixels where they meet the unaltered pixels in the background ... I'll show you in this photo as you can see on the bottom where the fish's head is that the pixels are 4x distorted compared to the water pixels on top left which are much finer pixels. and I've outlined the stair stepping effect that's created by the photoshop lasso so that you can see it easier. and that stair stepping is what produced that line on top of the fish's head.


also on other photos like the one where the fin is a lot smaller below the water on the closeup shot because they couldn't alter that and make it look right so they used the fish's original fin and just blew up the head above it ... to where on the other photo where you see the fin above the water and the picture taken from further away the fin is twice as big above the water as it is below the water in the closeup shot. like on this photo where the fin is below the water .. I'll post this pic again so you can pay particular attention to the fin


now look at the fin when it's pasted beside the fin above the water. It's actually a lot smaller where it should have been a lot bigger in the closeup and even bigger than that due to the water's magnifying effect as things under the water appear to be 10% to 20% bigger and this fin is actually a lot smaller because it's not blown up like the one above the water is.


The reason I know this is cause I've worked with photoshop quite a lot in editing photos like this just playing around but I've never lied about a fish like they're doin. I've made a few fake pics that appear to be eating a man and what not but the guy is smiling and posing for a photo ... he wouldn't have been smiling if a fish was about to clamp down on his whole body hahaha. but these photos are totally bogus as you can see when they're blown up.

You're the man Tiny. I analyzed the photo and came to the same conclusions. Good catch Tiny!

Good work Tiny.

I thought something looked bogus, I had asked in another thread about this if anyone had "Snope'd" it yet hehe.

probably too soon for snopes to get it but they jumped on that one where they was saying lucas van der geest's wels cat photo was a new world record blue from arkansas ... maybe they'll find out about this one pretty soon. but it's clearly a bunch of altered photos as those pixels should be identical and the feathering that someone else pointed out along with the stair stepping ... there's no way to make a photo look real that's not real just because of the pixels and what not. if no one else had photoshop so they could zoom in on it then they could probably get away with it but it's a very common program ... one that I've worked with quite a bit making joke deals like animated gifs posting some of my friend's heads on a barbie figurine and altering them in different positions and using a gif animator so that it makes them dance hahaha. or this one of the famous fish below the dam that scared divers that I made .. the name of the pic was fakepic2.jpg so I wasn't trying to deceive anyone hahaha. it's 240 lbs in this photo hahaha.


this fish was reeled in by a friend of mine below keystone dam as I was letting them reel in all my fish but was only about 22 lbs

Tiny, great work.

Once again, you're showing what an asset you are to this forum.

Thanks Tiny! I have to 2nd what FTWorthBret Said "you are an asset to this forum". I am looking to book a trip w/ you soon - I shot you a PM.

I posted what Tiny posted here over on http://www.Catfish1.com about the same catfish pictures - but they didn't like it & deleted the post. Makes me now wonder about catfish1 and why they would support this guys claims!

hard to believe

if catfish1.com is the brotherhood of catfish (paul louderback) then it prolly ain't got much to do wiff them supportin' the claims on the big fish but the fact it was tiny what posted the post ... some of us hooked up with that site back when it first kicked off but soon found out that louderback & some of his leadership weren't nuttin but a buncha buttheads & rejected tiny & some more folks for no obvious reason

if catfish1 is louderbacks carp i wouldn't give ya 2 cents fer the whole thang

If the folks at Catfish 1 felt that Tiny's claims were not true, which I doubt, they would have issued an explanation and substantiated the claims to this new world record CAR kitty. However, too many of you, including Tiny, have pointed out inconsistencies in both the photos and other irregularities (using the rope around the gills) that cast doubt on this catch.

My observation is,this problem could have been solved by landing the fish and laying a tape lengthwise, girth, head, etc. If the fish could not have been landed then a tape across the head, and those parts that were or were exposed.

But what do I know abot catfishing? Nothing...

Nevertheless, my gut instinct is to follow Tiny's observation, his past postings and reports of catches seem to validate his knowledge and expertise on the subject of catfishing.

Alakabama is right about the can reference... I was thinking the same thing while looking at that particular pic. Its the same thing as a person holding a small fish way out at arms length in front of them while they are taking a pic. Not to mention that the fish's true size has been distorted as well.

Dang Tiny, I might book a Photoshop trip with you. I would love to be able to fix/adjust some pics.
Here's one of my better ones, no feathering here.



Do you think this makes my butt look big?

Albertking, I'm kinda thinkin that it was probably louderback that did the photoshopping ... he's underhanded enough to try such a stupid stunt for whatever unknown reason that could be goin through his mind. I never knew that those photos came from the brotherhood cult until later ... one of my clients is a member over there and he sent me the pics in an email and I seen right off that they were fake cause of the edit lines where the fish's head meets the water and emailed him back and told him sorry ron ... it's not real as it's been photoshopped ... then it started spreading on all the forums .... news like that travels fast for sure but this time it was a hoax ... snopes will probably get hold of it also.



alakabama ... no one would dare question the authenticity of that photo you got right there ... hahaha.

Good job tiny,

thanks, Markit.

I posted over at the catfish1 site about this thread and mentioned Tiny (thanks man way to go on this). I linked to this site but they deleted it so I used Tinys pics and put them there catfish1. Figures some may be interested to see what all is said.
Brandon

I clicked on the link and apparently it's been deleted. Looks they don't care to hear the truth.

GOOD CATCH ON THE PIC TINY .I NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE DIFFERENCE. LOOKS JUST LIKE THE FISH I CAUGHT LAST YEAR. I TOOK A PIC OF IT BUT THE FISH ATE MY CAMERA. NOW EVERYBODY THINKS I'M A LIAR! GO FIGURE...

man, it looked so real to me, an untrained eye

when you first came on and started saying it was fake, i was thinking that you were flaming it. but you backed it up with detail

nice post

Here is a post that is on the catfish1 site. It seems a person with the handle "radish" was the one purported to catch this behemoth. He is a member of "The Brotherhood of Catfishermen"

The poster is giving huge accolades to "radish", almost to the point of Sainthood!





I would like to take a minute to ask everyone if you see a post on mr. "radish" send him a "thank you" if you get a minute. He released that fish because he knew that by the time the fish was put through it would have had to go through to become a world record, it would have died. He never took the fish out of the water except to get that snapshot. he had his wife drive to the rivers edge and get the picture and as soon as he was done he released the fish. People like him are the reason our kids will someday have the opportunity to catch these big monsters. There is no doubt about it, I look up to him more than anyone else on the BOC because rather than killing the fish to get his name in the record books, he would rather see that fish swim another day. Just look at that picture, there is no doubt in my mind, that was for sure the new world record. Thanks again radish!! you are a true leader, and someone everyone on here should thank and look up to for doing that. Truely honorable

I am certified in Adobe Photoshop and have been so since 4.0, and I also hold a Digital Media Design degree and work with photoshop daily.

The faults in the picture that Tiny posted about are present in almost all digital images. The pixel issues present are seen in all digital images when zoomed to an extent, this is the an issue where colors and or contrast change. Zoom in on any image where a color change is present and depending on the megapixel size of the image you will see a transition of bulky pixels to finer ones.

I respect the fact you are trying to debunk this image, but you are using flawed logic to do so. If requested you can send me an original image of yours and I will show you the same signs of tampering you are showing in this image.

I have examined the image, and I see no signs of digital tampering. The only true method of detection would be to have the original image with exif data to examine.

No disrespect intended, just stating the facts.

Tiny: I see you took the time to go into a lot of details, but realistically most of these guys probably have little to no clue what you were talking about with regard to photoshop tricks and techniques - no disrespect whatsoever and it was an interesting read.

Nether: You are correct. The original image would need to be examined and if any tampering were made, it would be shown in the file info.

It's all good though - photoshop on!

Good job on the detective work Tiny!

i was about to say something in reguards to the color contrast thing on digital pics, i zoomed in on some pics of my boat to see if it was like this, i had "crop" lines where the white boat met the green trees.

You are right it takes a great sportsman but the the story straight. I have looked into this and have been into "Radish" photobucket page. I have read through every post in his thread where he announced this to the BOC. He is if not a fake for shure he seems to be lying. I do not say that lightly. I see many times people ask about more pictures and he says no many times and that he only took a few. Well check these out and tell me where they are on the BOC sight or on radish's photo bucket. Also every other fish I have seen him in a picture with has appeared to be DEAD. Even some nice 40+ catfish. His avatar holding what looks to be a dead fish with fins being visible on the right where he croped someone else holding a fish about the size of the one he is holding. Just seems weird to get a bad case of the CPR(catch photo release) when it came to this one. Here are some pics I bet you havent seen before.







Like I said its like he didnt want these getting out. Someone went to his photobucket before he removhese and saved them to their computer. (a member of catfish1 who thought something was fishy) he has asked to remain nameless so I will not say where I got these. Looks like not only did his wife make it to the rivers edge but out onto the boat to snap these too.

when you take a picture with a digital camera all the pixels are the same size .. you only get those edit lines when you crop a pic out with the lasso and blow it up and paste it back on the original and save it ... the pixels on the fish are now bigger than the background pixels ... if the image was taken and just resized all the pixels would have been the same size there ... the only way you can get pixels larger on one part of the photo than the other is by editing the photo ... in this case the fish was blown up and saved as a larger image and then lasso'd with the photoshop lasso and then pasted back onto the original photo in several places ... you also won't see things like fingers getting cropped off in an original photo ... you won't see white edit lines around the enlarged object if it's an original unedited photo and the fish's fin can't be disputed either ... in the closeup shot it showed the fish's fin as a lot smaller in the water compared to when it's fin was above water on the zoomed out shot. in the pic where the fish's fin is just under the water ... the right one ... you can see the fin is it's original size and also looks as though it's in the wrong place. in a couple of the photos you see the water is transparent and in some of the others you can't see the fish at all just below the surface of the water ... I just glanced at the photo when it was first sent to me by ron schoonover and seen right off that it was fake ... I'm not sure how anyone else can look at that photo and not see that there's just something not right about it ... clearly the water was a little transparent except in the one pic where it was totally blotted out under the surface. in all the pictures the pixels of the fish were a lot larger than the background and foreground and the dude holding the fish ... the only pixels that were larger was the fish's pixels ... that right there should send up a big flag for you expert photoshop fellers cause ya can't get that without altering the photo ... you also can't get the stair stepping white edit line without editng the photo.

this guy also harvested near 70 lb fish ... so what made this one any different than those that he ate ... you think that he feels for a 150 to 200 lb fish and passes up hundreds of thousands of dollars when he'd eat 60 and 70 lb'rs? somethings not right about that either hahaha... he's got 60 and 70 lb'rs on his photobucket account that don't have the edit lines on them from photoshopping and they're taken in his yard where he clearly harvested the fish but no need to edit those photos and they didn't have different sized pixels on the fish hahaha. wonder what a photoshopped fish tastes like ... cause I bet he ate that one too.

it's of no importance to me about all this as you can believe it's real if you want but when I zoom in on a pic and see pixels that are huge on the fish and they're still in mega pixels in the background then something is fishy ... pun intended hahaha. when you take a pic with a digital camera ... all the pixels are the same size ... when you resize the photo ... all the pixels are the same size.

now those pics look right ... his bridal rope seems to have shrunk a lot in the pics as well as that fish ... sure a nice fish there where he's holding the rope that's now a lot smaller ... fish is a lot smaller also ... clearly a big ole nice fish but ain't no world record ... clearly looks like the same fish however and same rope but rope was a lot smaller(not blown up) so that's the fish they probably blew up with photoshop.

if he wants to release the ish unharmed, then he should not have put a damn rope through his gills

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