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#1897055 - 01/19/08 09:23 AM Question on rear-end suspension
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Registered: 09/26/05
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Loc: Lewisville
Ok, while I know fundamentals about towing I'm not mechanically inclined ... I get lost doing anything more complicated than changing oil or putting a spare tire on. I have a 2000 Ford Explorer, 4.0 V6, automatic transmission. Have noted lately that the rear end sags pretty badly compared to a couple years ago when I hitch up the boat, and I know it's time to replace/upgrade some rear suspension, but what?

Stopped at a Midas place & they recommended 'load leveler' shocks, which are shocks with a coil spring mounted on them. What they told me is that under normal driving, the springs don't really get used - you're just riding on the shocks, but when you put a load in the truck or attach a trailer (with the tongue weight) the springs compress and absorb most of the extra weight so the truck is still (mostly) riding on the shocks. Was quoted $323 installed for these.

The Ford dealer I use (Bill Utter in Denton) suggested just replacing the shocks and springs - they said that they don't have anything like load levelers available at all.

Any thoughts? The vehicle is paid for & I'd just as soon get another 5-6 years of use from it - it tows my boat just fine. Don't mind spending money on maintenance & upkeep but I don't want to throw money away on unnecessary work or find that I had the wrong thing fixed. Thanks to all.
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#1897146 - 01/19/08 10:21 AM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: Zeek the Greek]
Green Water Offline
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Registered: 12/09/05
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Loc: Dallas/Padre
Monroe Truck Reflex's up front and Monroe Sensa-Trac Load Adjusting Shocks for the rear.


That's what I run on my Expedition and it made a huge difference over the stock POS that I had replaced.


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#1897978 - 01/19/08 06:13 PM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: Green Water]
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Registered: 10/30/04
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Your springs are worn. The "load leveler" shocks might solve your problem but they are really a temporaty solution. I would replace the springs then possibly add the assist springs. The reason the dealer doesn't install load levelers is because they are not a factory part.
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#1897983 - 01/19/08 06:16 PM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: Zeek the Greek]
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 Originally Posted By: Zeek the Greek


What they told me is that under normal driving, the springs don't really get used - you're just riding on the shocks, but when you put a load in the truck or attach a trailer (with the tongue weight) the springs compress and absorb most of the extra weight so the truck is still (mostly) riding on the shocks.


What they said isn't right. If the springs weren't there the rear end would drop. The shocks do not support loads on a standard suspension. Their function is to control the overall movement of the wheel/tire.
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#1899015 - 01/20/08 10:18 AM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: daveblank]
Zeek the Greek Offline
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Thanks guys, this helps enormously - I never completely trust the guy in the shop, as he makes more money by selling me more stuff.
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#1900177 - 01/20/08 08:36 PM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: Zeek the Greek]
mutantslinger Offline
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Registered: 11/09/07
Posts: 306
Loc: Oklahoma City
I put a set of the Monroe "overload" shocks on my '98 Grand Cherokee and it made all the difference. There is a specific name for these but I don't remember what it is. They are a shock with a coil spring outside of it. I got them at O'Reilly's for $150-$175 total. Put them on myself which was pretty easy. The ride is firmer and it handles a load better.
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#1904647 - 01/22/08 10:55 AM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: mutantslinger]
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 798
Loc: Rockwall
Shocks keep your tires in contact with the road. They control the unsprung weight (tire, rim, brakes, etc.). Springs support the body and everthing above them. I would suggest new springs or try the helper springs. Even if the helper springs do not work you can add them after getting new springs.

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#1904783 - 01/22/08 11:46 AM Re: Question on rear-end suspension [Re: Stump jumper]
JustWingem Offline
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 2257
Loc: Yantis TX
I have the Monroe sensa tract on the rear of my Expedition like South padre bum but opted for Bilstein's up front.

I believe they also have some air asist shocks as well. But like Stump jumper said if the coils springs are weak it would be a temp fix. You could also add a spring spacer.
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