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#1848482 - 01/02/08 06:35 AM
Bowling for an Argument
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 04/22/07
Posts: 2431
Loc: Rockwall
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Mich & Florida played the best bowl game so far, but what was it for? Nothing, but the right to say they won a bowl game. We now have a few more meaningless bowls until the actual bowl game that counts. Hawaii did a great job tanking against Georgia as did Ill against USC. Now, USC & Georgia have the ammo they need to contest a shared title. What happens if LSU wins? Now, you'll have a bunch of BCS teams with two losses and valid arguments for a piece of the title. But who has a better argument? Lets see....OU beat Mizzou, Mizzou destroyed Arkansas, Arkansas beat LSU late in the year, LSU also lost to Kentucky, Kentucky lost to Georgia, Georgia got beat by Tenn, Tenn beat both Kentucky and Arkansas, but lost to LSU. Out west, USC beat Cal, Cal beat the same Tenn team that beat Kent & Arkansas, but Tenn lost to LSU, the same LSU team that got beat by Arkansas late in the year. OU got beat by TT, who lost to Mizzou, but then OU beats Mizzou in the title game, right after Mizzou beats Kansas to claim the #1 spot in the nation. So where does VA Tech & OSU fall? Well, VA Tech got beat by LSU, the same LSU team that got beat by Arkansas late in the year. Michigans win over Florida made OSU's win over Michigan look more impressive, until USC demolished ILL, the same Ill team that beat OSU in the seond to the last game of the season. What does all of this mean? Absolutely nothing, because the Bowls aren't set up to pit the best teams against eachother, it's set up as part of tradition, or whatever. It's a hoax, smoke and mirrors and as it's turning out, a joke. The who's who of college football say that the regular season IS the playoff. Really? Than why are OSU and LSU playing? The world may never know 
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#1848496 - 01/02/08 06:43 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: JV4 NITRO]
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: west tawakoni
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i hope lsu embrasses osu just to add more craziness to the whole system
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#1848502 - 01/02/08 06:47 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: kodys'papa]
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Registered: 06/01/05
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Loc: Flower Mound
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My only question is how many times is "Katerina" and/or the "storm of the century" going to be mentioned? Poor New Orleans if only the rest of the country were not against them.......
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#1848537 - 01/02/08 07:13 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: a777pilot]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 4222
Loc: NE Tex
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LSU lost twice, both in triple overtime, so lets not lead people to think they were beat in the original 60 minutes, it took 3 over times to beat them.
There really don't deserve to be a champion. Theres not one Championship caliber defense playing this year.
If USC defense is so great, then why did they lose twice?
So solid defenses, but not championship caliber. Georgia can't be consider for piece of title, they couldn't even get into the conference championship, so earning a piece through the back door doesn't fly.
Who did OSU beat that was so impressive this year?????
We have a season, that anyone in the top 25 could have beaten anyone on any given day, but twice in a row would be questionable.
Football is not like basketball, where 64 teams are selected and you have 4 #1 seeds from each region.
Baskettball has a resume of 25-30 games, where RPI's mean something and is used to select the field.
The only way to find 8 teams or 16 is to look at resumes from all 119 Div I colleges.
The only way to decipher Conference strengths is to sample inter play between conferences.
That is never going to happen as long as the BCS uses current formula for selecting rankings.
Ask USC what they think of the Big Ten today and OSU!!!!
Hawaii failed to help Boise State out last night. One non BCS bowl winner wasn't enough for the BCS to take the lesser conf. serious. Hawaii didn't help that cause last night.
Don't look for teams like Utah and Hawaii who go undefeated to ever be taken serously in the title game unless they beat some Bcs conference teams to strengthen their schedules.
And why should any BCS team risk playing them, it only knocks them out of possible championship game with a loss.
Why play anyone better outside of your conference, BCS doesn't penalize you for beating cream puffs.
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#1848728 - 01/02/08 09:36 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: Hook'emUTbass]
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Registered: 06/02/05
Posts: 374
Loc: Pinehurst, TX
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LSU lost twice, both in triple overtime, so lets not lead people to think they were beat in the original 60 minutes, it took 3 over times to beat them. It really doesn't matter if it took 8 overtimes! The fact is they lost and they had the exact same opportunities the other team had to win or lose the game. College OT games put pressure on the offense and the defense. It's not like the Pro's where the team that wins the coin toss wins almost every time. There should NEVER be a National Champion with 2 loses, but it could happen this year. A playoff is tilted to those teams that are healthy at the time, and playing their best at the time. A good example is USC....injuries during the season and now they are healthy. Who wouldn't like to see OSU, USC, LSU, OU, Mizzou, GA, maybe even Kansas get it on in a playoff? I would. Just my dos centavos.
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#1848751 - 01/02/08 09:45 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: BASSNDOOD]
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Registered: 04/22/07
Posts: 2431
Loc: Rockwall
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Who wouldn't like to see OSU, USC, LSU, OU, Mizzou, GA, maybe even Kansas get it on in a playoff? I would.
Just my dos centavos.
I know I would. I would add Va tech to that list, because they are playing some really good D and IMO, are the only team that could beat USC.
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#1848759 - 01/02/08 09:48 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: JV4 NITRO]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 3449
Loc: Forney, Texas USA
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Mich & Florida played the best bowl game so far, but what was it for? Nothing, but the right to say they won a bowl game. We now have a few more meaningless bowls until the actual bowl game that counts. Hawaii did a great job tanking against Georgia as did Ill against USC. Now, USC & Georgia have the ammo they need to contest a shared title. What happens if LSU wins? Now, you'll have a bunch of BCS teams with two losses and valid arguments for a piece of the title. But who has a better argument? Lets see....OU beat Mizzou, Mizzou destroyed Arkansas, Arkansas beat LSU late in the year, LSU also lost to Kentucky, Kentucky lost to Georgia, Georgia got beat by Tenn, Tenn beat both Kentucky and Arkansas, but lost to LSU. Out west, USC beat Cal, Cal beat the same Tenn team that beat Kent & Arkansas, but Tenn lost to LSU, the same LSU team that got beat by Arkansas late in the year. OU got beat by TT, who lost to Mizzou, but then OU beats Mizzou in the title game, right after Mizzou beats Kansas to claim the #1 spot in the nation. So where does VA Tech & OSU fall? Well, VA Tech got beat by LSU, the same LSU team that got beat by Arkansas late in the year. Michigans win over Florida made OSU's win over Michigan look more impressive, until USC demolished ILL, the same Ill team that beat OSU in the seond to the last game of the season. What does all of this mean? Absolutely nothing, because the Bowls aren't set up to pit the best teams against eachother, it's set up as part of tradition, or whatever. It's a hoax, smoke and mirrors and as it's turning out, a joke. The who's who of college football say that the regular season IS the playoff. Really? Than why are OSU and LSU playing? The world may never know Its nice to know that someone had the time and energy to assemble all those facts. I wanted to, couldn't though, 'cause today I'm just too darn lazy to do it, so thanks! Seems like EVERY year its like this. Then we wonder, rant, and curse the "system"...only to wait till next year when it will all start again!!! OH, GEAUX TIGGERS!!!!! not really a fan, just sick of THE ohio u.
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#1848894 - 01/02/08 11:01 AM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: JV4 NITRO]
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Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 923
Loc: Houston
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I agree. OSU played a very easy schedule and for that, they are in the title game. At least LSU played a tougher schedule and have a valid argument as to why they are in the Big Game. Until a playoff system is installed, there will never be a true #1 team in NCAA 1-A football. Even if they did a Plus 1 game, it doesn't solve anything. I have found myself less interested in the bowl games this year than last year and I thought I wasn't interested last year If OSU had played LSU's scheldule they would be a 3-4 loss team.
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#1849099 - 01/02/08 12:34 PM
Re: Bowling for an Argument
[Re: bassman1]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 04/22/07
Posts: 2431
Loc: Rockwall
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I agree. OSU played a very easy schedule and for that, they are in the title game. At least LSU played a tougher schedule and have a valid argument as to why they are in the Big Game. Until a playoff system is installed, there will never be a true #1 team in NCAA 1-A football. Even if they did a Plus 1 game, it doesn't solve anything. I have found myself less interested in the bowl games this year than last year and I thought I wasn't interested last year If OSU had played LSU's scheldule they would be a 3-4 loss team. True, very true 
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