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#1847891 - 01/01/08 06:41 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 1040
Loc: Midland, TX
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the cost of rearming them stinks man! im sticking with the old style one for a while myself danny
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#1847913 - 01/01/08 06:49 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Bit Man]
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Registered: 05/24/02
Posts: 169
Loc: San Marcos, TX
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If your friend didn't have another wearable pfd in his boat then he would have had to have to be wearing the inflatable PFD for it to be legal. I have several and in my honest opinion unless it is a manual type inflatable it is still too bulky and too high maintenance to be very usefull.
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#1847962 - 01/01/08 07:08 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: leethefishking]
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Registered: 01/24/06
Posts: 203
Loc: frisco tx
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They do suck to rearm because the cartridge is like 15 or so. Plus you definately want to check the regulations on them so you don't get in trouble. I like the regular type 3 for sure.
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#1847983 - 01/01/08 07:15 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: cman]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 1206
Loc: Azle, TX EML
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I was told if its the only kind in boat it must be worn at all times. If you have the old style stowed you can take it off. I dont know if this is correct.
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#1848037 - 01/01/08 07:28 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: bassackwards dav]
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Registered: 08/02/04
Posts: 346
Loc: Tyler, TX
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I would say that the biggest con is that you are putting a lot of trust in the fact that the guy that armed it from the factory had a "good" day and wasn't slacking. With the old style, you know it will float. I have been debating on getting a couple of them, but I keep thinking about that.
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#1848041 - 01/01/08 07:29 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: bassackwards dav]
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 19350
Loc: Crandall, TX
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I was told if its the only kind in boat it must be worn at all times. If you have the old style stowed you can take it off. I dont know if this is correct. I've seen that on here before and I don't know if it is a fact. I see the BASS guys wearing the Mustangs and take them off to fish.????? Help?????
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#1848052 - 01/01/08 07:37 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Big Red 12]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 06/10/04
Posts: 3330
Loc: garland,tx
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I believe for them to be legal, you must be wearing them at all times!!! I read this on another forum.
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#1848062 - 01/01/08 07:43 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 4190
Loc: Ft. Worth
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Ok...What would you say the Pros and Cons are to using the suspender style PFD's? A guy in my club told me that he got a ticket on Eagle Mt. one night b/c he wasn't wearing his while fishing. He said the warden advised him that he had to keep it on at all times. Is that true? I've seen the pros on TV take'em off as soon as they shut the motor off.
Suggestions...opinions....? Best brand/cost? They are only considered a floation device while they are worn. If you don't have enough "old" style PFDs in your boat for everyone in the boat then you can and probably will get a ticket. Type V PFD I have one in my boat, but haven't used it yet. I armed it, and put it in one of my compartments thinking I'd put it in something water tight later. When I finally got around to doing that it had already inflated due to getting wet from rain. Luckily mine came with another cartridge.
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#1848075 - 01/01/08 07:50 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 158
Loc: Ft. worth
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I wear mine when using. if it is to cold or rainy, use old reliable. One thing that it has me doing is wearing it while fishing, which I dont do with the old kind.
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#1848129 - 01/01/08 08:26 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: nitroslim]
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Registered: 05/04/02
Posts: 9313
Loc: DFW, TX
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What about when you wear one that's rated as a Type II? I still haven't heard anything definitive, so I still carry extra regular foam PFD's in the boat.
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#1848166 - 01/01/08 08:46 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: K.D.]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 1904
Loc: San Angelo, TX
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I bought one a while back after someone died because he fell out of his boat. I started worrying what if I am alone fall out of the boat and hit my head on the way out. A regular PFD is too bulky to fish with so I bought an auto inflatable one but I always carry two regular PFDs encase of premature inflation.
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#1848194 - 01/01/08 09:08 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: txbazzman]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 12/28/02
Posts: 3880
Loc: Sachse, TX, USA
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If something happens and you happen to get thrown out of your boat, I like the padding and protection that the old floatation type give me. I just can't see myself ever wearing an inflatable one for that one reason alone.
Good luck!
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#1848332 - 01/02/08 04:08 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: FishingPhysicist]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 1688
Loc: Tarrant County, Texas
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I've worn the auto inflate style of SOSPenders since they came out in 2000. I wear mine every time on the water, rain or shine. It goes on the second I step in the boat and comes off when I'm back on the trailer. It is very comfortable, even in hot weather and it will float me if/when I get in the lake. I test mine every year in May or June by jumping in - it always has inflated as it is designed to do. Yes, it requires maintenance but the rearm kit on a SOSpender is less than $20 - once a year. As mine is on all the time I don't worry about if it's legal. Like any pfd it will ONLY work it it is worn.
I have only had 2 models self inflate due to moisture in the storage box, never had one go off in the rain or spray. And the ones that did inflate in the storage box were my fault. The Sentinel model of the SOSpenders is designed to resist inflation due to rain or spray. The high end Mustang must be under water pressure to inflate.
That being said, I do keep 2 high performance style pfds in the boat for times when I'm running very rough conditions or very cold. I trust my inflatables, 99% of the time, but don't see the need to push the limits of common sense.
Every year we get to read a post where prayers are requested because some angler drowned while fishing. So if you'll wear an inflatable pfd while fishing but not a regular style, then you're ahead of the game. I encourage you to try on a number of styles and definitely look for the name brand, higher end models. These are more expensive for a reason; they tend to fit and function better. The Sentinel model of SOSpender is pretty hard to find so if you can't find one local, let me know and you can test mine.
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#1848344 - 01/02/08 04:30 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Blu-Ranger]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 09/21/07
Posts: 1622
Loc: San Angelo
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I've worn the auto inflate style of SOSPenders since they came out in 2000. I wear mine every time on the water, rain or shine. It goes on the second I step in the boat and comes off when I'm back on the trailer. It is very comfortable, even in hot weather and it will float me if/when I get in the lake. I test mine every year in May or June by jumping in - it always has inflated as it is designed to do. Yes, it requires maintenance but the rearm kit on a SOSpender is less than $20 - once a year. As mine is on all the time I don't worry about if it's legal. Like any pfd it will ONLY work it it is worn.
I have only had 2 models self inflate due to moisture in the storage box, never had one go off in the rain or spray. And the ones that did inflate in the storage box were my fault. The Sentinel model of the SOSpenders is designed to resist inflation due to rain or spray. The high end Mustang must be under water pressure to inflate.
That being said, I do keep 2 high performance style pfds in the boat for times when I'm running very rough conditions or very cold. I trust my inflatables, 99% of the time, but don't see the need to push the limits of common sense.
Every year we get to read a post where prayers are requested because some angler drowned while fishing. So if you'll wear an inflatable pfd while fishing but not a regular style, then you're ahead of the game. I encourage you to try on a number of styles and definitely look for the name brand, higher end models. These are more expensive for a reason; they tend to fit and function better. The Sentinel model of SOSpender is pretty hard to find so if you can't find one local, let me know and you can test mine. Well said! I wear sospender style pfd and keep a couple of the vest style pfd's on the boat at all times. I do wear the sospenders while fishing most of the time and do not find them restrictive.
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#1848371 - 01/02/08 05:02 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: throwback]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 08/24/06
Posts: 1710
Loc: San Angelo
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I have the Sospenders and wear it from the time I leave the dock until I get back. No bother summer or winter. While I would always wear a regular life jacket I tended to not zip it up especially in the summer. At least with this I keep it on and ready. For those of you that don't wear one, think about how well you could get back to and in the boat in this 40-50 degree water. You best be young and in great shape---I'm not so I wear mine.
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#1848381 - 01/02/08 05:11 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Just_Old_Fisherman]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 08/04/07
Posts: 1743
Loc: Lubbock
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Hey JOF, Where did you buy yours ?
Thanks, Nut
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#1848422 - 01/02/08 05:51 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Grapenut]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 567
Loc: Lake Conroe
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Hey JOF, Where did you buy yours ?
Thanks, Nut Academy has some on sale at about $50 each with rearming kits for about $7 each. I bought 2 vests and 4 rearming kits so I could test them out. They have both automatic and the non-automatic on sale.
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#1848466 - 01/02/08 06:19 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: irfishyir2]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: The Colony, TX
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Remember to check the expiration dates on the re-arm kits if you stock up. The way the regulation was explained to me is that you have to either wear your inflatable at all times or have enough Type 3 jackets in your boat. I wear a Stearn's and keep a couple of old style jackets stoyed away. I was checked once on Texoma and asked about life jackets, so make sure you have some on board.
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#1848533 - 01/02/08 07:10 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: monkester]
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TFF Team Angler
Registered: 07/02/04
Posts: 4774
Loc: NRH, TX
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I believe for them to be legal, you must be wearing them at all times!!! I read this on another forum. Your sorta right. The way I understand it the inflatable PFD's are not considered a PFD unless you have it on. SO if a Warden comes by and checks you and you dont have it on but you have the correct number of regular lifejackets in the boat you are good. Now, if you only have the inflatable in the boat and you are not wearing it you will be ticketed. I always have 3 standard "old" style jackets in the boat and a throw cushion so if I have an inflatable and I take it off while I fish I am still legal up to 3 people. Does that help clarify?
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#1848742 - 01/02/08 09:41 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Grapenut]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 08/24/06
Posts: 1710
Loc: San Angelo
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Hey JOF, Where did you buy yours ?
Thanks, Nut Grapenut--I got mine at Field & Stream here in San Angelo. I tried another brand from Walmart first and ended up returning it. The Sospenders was much more comfortable and not as bulky. I am probably due to test and rearm, had it about 18 months and it has never gone off. I store mine in my garage workroom. High humidity for us is probably 20% except the rare days it rains.
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#1849266 - 01/02/08 01:24 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Just_Old_Fisherman]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 08/23/07
Posts: 866
Loc: Round Rock, TX
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I have the 149.99 Mustang and it is amazing. It has poured solid rain on us during a tourney and it did not go off. It goes off when submerged in 4 in of water or more. Sray does not bother it either. I wear from the time I step in the boat to the time when I step off at the ramp.
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#1849446 - 01/02/08 02:25 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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TFF Celebrity
Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 5900
Loc: Kingwood TX
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Ok...What would you say the Pros and Cons are to using the suspender style PFD's? A guy in my club told me that he got a ticket on Eagle Mt. one night b/c he wasn't wearing his while fishing. He said the warden advised him that he had to keep it on at all times. Is that true? I've seen the pros on TV take'em off as soon as they shut the motor off.
Suggestions...opinions....? Best brand/cost? I've been using the Sospenders brand for about 5 years now and the only problem I've ever had was that I took it off one day and laid it down in the floor of the boat while raining. Mistake, Mistake, Mistake. When the thing blew it scared the bejeebers out of both me and my partner. The only thinkg I wish it had was some sort of straps that went from the waist band down and through the legs to hold it in place. It does ride up a bit when running down the lake.
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#1849540 - 01/02/08 02:55 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Just_Old_Fisherman]
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Green Horn
Registered: 12/29/07
Posts: 3
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I have had a pair of suspenders for five years. I were them all the time and have only gone off accidentally one time (raining). They also worked one November when I fell in at Fork with coverall's on. I was fishing alone. I think they are cheap insurance because with the other style I have a tendency to take off.
As far as rearming I believe that that is cheap compared to drowning. Also they are no more money than I waste on worms that I never use or I spend that much on a yellow magic and I believe it is worth every penny.
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#1849655 - 01/02/08 03:43 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Empty Bag]
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Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 26
Loc: Arlington, TX
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I have a mustang auto inflate pfd and find I will put it on an wear it all the time I am fishing...I have had it discharge once probably due to water in the boat after a rain..I had it stored in the rod locker in the original bag..the fact that I will wear it all the time when fishing is the reason I bought one for my son-in-law..and now he also wears his all the time he is fishing. No matter what type or how legal if you are not wearing the PFD when you hit the water, all the money or lack of doesnt matter...if you are concerned about the dischage you can buy a manual vest...this will not activate unless you pull the cord...so you dont have to worry about moisture or humidity. The auto inflate is activated by a bobbin..the water disloves this quickly and allows a spring loaded puncture of the CO2 cartridge..so it really has to be submerged ...especially since the cartridge are protected inside the velcrowed flaps. One tip for those that own the auto-inflate I found that you can purchase extra-large..ZIPLOCK bags ( 2 feet X 1.7 feet) ...I found them at Wal Mart last year dont remember the price...but they are perfect for these PFD's you can put them in and seal them up..never had a discharge since I started using them for storage. Also these have a blow tube that you can inflate them manually by blowing into it...good idea to do that once a year just to make sure the bladder will hold air...
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#1849662 - 01/02/08 03:44 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Empty Bag]
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Outdoorsman
Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 42
Loc: amarillo
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I heard that they dont count as one of yuor life vest in the boat if you are not wearing them.Is this true?
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#1850796 - 01/03/08 05:55 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 958
Loc: Rockwall, TX USA
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You guys might want to take a look at this. This is from the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept. regulations on inflatable PFDs.
Inflatable PFDs are authorized only when used in accordance with requirements as presented on U.S. Coast Guard approval labels. Inflatable PFDs are not approved for use on personal watercraft, waterskiing, or other high speed activity.
I don't know why the tournament directors have let these life saving devices be legal when it states no high speed activity. I know it doesn't say what speed is high speed but I think I want something very secured to my body in case of leaving the boat at a hgigh rate of speed.
My .02 worth.
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#1851430 - 01/03/08 10:07 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Tommy Yetts]
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Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 5900
Loc: Kingwood TX
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You guys might want to take a look at this. This is from the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept. regulations on inflatable PFDs.
Inflatable PFDs are authorized only when used in accordance with requirements as presented on U.S. Coast Guard approval labels. Inflatable PFDs are not approved for use on personal watercraft, waterskiing, or other high speed activity.
I don't know why the tournament directors have let these life saving devices be legal when it states no high speed activity. I know it doesn't say what speed is high speed but I think I want something very secured to my body in case of leaving the boat at a hgigh rate of speed.
My .02 worth.
Tommy Yetts Rockwall Marine The above does not discriminate between auto and manually inflatable. It would make sense not to wear them on PWCs, while skiing, and when you were expected to take a dip, but if you're not expecting to take a dip, and you are using an auto inflatable, I see them as safer than a regular PFD, because you are more likely to wear it. Personally, I can't cast worth a hoot with a regular PFD on, but with my auto-inflatable, I can wear it with no discomfort, and do wear it most of the time, except when it's really hot.
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#1851451 - 01/03/08 10:18 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ratherBfishin]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 701
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Ok...What would you say the Pros and Cons are to using the suspender style PFD's? A guy in my club told me that he got a ticket on Eagle Mt. one night b/c he wasn't wearing his while fishing. He said the warden advised him that he had to keep it on at all times. Is that true? I've seen the pros on TV take'em off as soon as they shut the motor off.
Suggestions...opinions....? Best brand/cost? The boating rules state that you have to have an approved PFD in the boat for each person. The inflatables only count "IF YOU ARE WEARING THEM" I carry one of the old style PFD's for each passenger in my boat for legal purposes but I never wear them since I got my Mustang inflatable one. You dont HAVE to wear a PFD for boating. Its the tournaments that require it. And most tournaments allow the inflatables - Just keep one of the old styles crammed in a storage box for the game warrden.
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#1851530 - 01/03/08 10:46 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: KingwoodRanger]
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Extreme Angler
Registered: 10/19/05
Posts: 1688
Loc: Tarrant County, Texas
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I have to concede to Tommy's point about how secure an inflatable would be if I were to hit the water after being ejected from a boat at a high rate of speed. I normally haven't thought of my boat as being fast, 62mph max (light load and a good tail wind  ) but I presume that there is a risk that the pfd could be ripped away upon impact. I've wanted to test this theory but that would require me jumping out of my boat at speed.  My point of wearing a pfd 100% of the time is that in my experience I am far more likely to fall out of the boat when fishing than when running at speed. I do keep the regular vest handy for running in bad conditions.
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#1851850 - 01/03/08 12:40 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Blu-Ranger]
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Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 26
Loc: Arlington, TX
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#1851966 - 01/03/08 01:09 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: ToadThrower]
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Registered: 10/30/04
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Loc: Kingwood TX
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#1852501 - 01/03/08 03:57 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: KingwoodRanger]
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 233
Loc: Amarillo, Texas
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I've been wearing one now for five years, has never gone off even in the rain. I forget I even have them on, I've even loaded the boat and got in the truck then remember to take it off.You can fish all day even in the heat and can't tell you have one on. Some of the lakes here you have to wear some kind of vest at all times on the water.
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#1918699 - 01/27/08 09:48 AM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: bassman72]
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Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 104
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I have worn the auto model for 3 years and it has never gone off in the rain or storage compartment.
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#1919421 - 01/27/08 05:29 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: Engraver]
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Pro Angler
Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 979
Loc: dallas,tx,usa
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Tommy, I asked A Game Warden about your information, I was told that high speed activity means racing. This game warden had seen test of the PDF's during an ejection and they infact stayed on and inflated very quickly. He was impressed. But he say they must be properly fitted.
I purchased some new stardard vests at BPS and they come with straps that go around your legs.
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#1923241 - 01/28/08 10:53 PM
Re: Pro & Cons of suspender style PFD
[Re: meP2too]
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Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 247
Loc: Greenville, TX
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Do they make any of the PFD's for kids. My little girl get's way to hot in the summer. She is 10 years old, 5'2" and 100 LBS.
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