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#1844360 - 12/31/07 12:04 PM Any Cattle Guys in here?
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Curious if any of us TFFers have any knowledge on the cattle industry. Thinking about adding a few pure bred Angus to my wife's grandfathers herd...anybody dabble?
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#1844370 - 12/31/07 12:07 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Chad Miller]
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Here they make great steaks....
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#1844372 - 12/31/07 12:08 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Tejasbasshunter]
Chad Miller Offline
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....and an okie states the obvious...lol
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#1844374 - 12/31/07 12:08 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Chad Miller]
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#1844382 - 12/31/07 12:10 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Huckleberry]
Chad Miller Offline
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wow...strike two. At this rate, I'll be the knowledge king shortly after I've been dead 40 years.

Any serious input?
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#1844391 - 12/31/07 12:12 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Chad Miller]
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Cross-breeding is best for Angus. They can have a weak back.
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#1844396 - 12/31/07 12:14 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: jignpig]
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well, at the moment, he has a Herford Bull, along with a couple other herfords and brangus, producing black baldies.
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#1844397 - 12/31/07 12:14 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: jignpig]
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 Originally Posted By: jignpig
Cross-breeding is best for Angus. They can have a weak back.


What?? Angus have the best calving track record of any breed.
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#1844401 - 12/31/07 12:16 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Chad Miller]
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 Originally Posted By: Chad Miller
well, at the moment, he has a Herford Bull, along with a couple other herfords and brangus, producing black baldies.


Can't go wrong with Herefords or Angus. I had a Hereford/Angus cross steer I raised in FFA.
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#1844403 - 12/31/07 12:17 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Tritonman]
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Just passing along what my grandaddy taught me. We bred red angus and herefords.
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#1844410 - 12/31/07 12:19 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Tritonman]
Chad Miller Offline
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thanks for your input, T-Man. Trying to find a price range that I would expect to pay for either open Angus or bred Angus cows to add...I know the "prices" can vary depending on what bloodline, breeders, etc....just like deer.

Just didn't know a decent "average" to expect. Hoping to find more knowledge here.
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#1844416 - 12/31/07 12:22 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: jignpig]
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An Angus Herford cross is very good.
My family had Herfords, my Mother-in-law still raises registered polled Herfords, and my uncle has reg black angus.
we crossed them a while back - were a good cross and had some good white faces come out. For some reason the meat houses still like a white face on the cattle.
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#1844421 - 12/31/07 12:25 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Wish2BFishN]
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 Originally Posted By: Wish2BFishN
An Angus Herford cross is very good.
My family had Herfords, my Mother-in-law still raises registered polled Herfords, and my uncle has reg black angus.
we crossed them a while back - were a good cross and had some good white faces come out. For some reason the meat houses still like a white face on the cattle.


racists ;\)
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#1844428 - 12/31/07 12:29 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: TheFirstNameThat]
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racists ;\)


NAH - the cattle were mainly black with a pretty white face.
The best have a black ring around the eye.
I don't claim to understand the preference - just see it happen.
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#1844429 - 12/31/07 12:29 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Wish2BFishN]
Chad Miller Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Wish2BFishN
An Angus Herford cross is very good.
My family had Herfords, my Mother-in-law still raises registered polled Herfords, and my uncle has reg black angus.
we crossed them a while back - were a good cross and had some good white faces come out. For some reason the meat houses still like a white face on the cattle.



Yes...we've found that the black baldies are bringing a better price at the auction as well. I may/may not have the opportunity to snag some awesome genetics in the near future, and am planning on starting small. Just to have a calf or two to sell a year, possibly have one cut for meat.
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#1844525 - 12/31/07 01:21 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Tritonman]
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 Originally Posted By: Tritonman
 Originally Posted By: jignpig
Cross-breeding is best for Angus. They can have a weak back.


What?? Angus have the best calving track record of any breed.




might want to check the Longhorn.....

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#1844529 - 12/31/07 01:23 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Tritonman]
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 Originally Posted By: Tritonman
 Originally Posted By: jignpig
Cross-breeding is best for Angus. They can have a weak back.


What?? Angus have the best calving track record of any breed.



Mainly 'cause they have small calves. Cross 'em wrong (like with a Charolais) and you'll have troubles for sure.
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#1844545 - 12/31/07 01:30 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: jignpig]
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If this was about sheep Ratmo would be an excellent source of information.
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#1844552 - 12/31/07 01:33 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Wish2BFishN]
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 Originally Posted By: Wish2BFishN
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racists ;\)


NAH - the cattle were mainly black with a pretty white face.
The best have a black ring around the eye.
I don't claim to understand the preference - just see it happen.

That's the way I like my women.
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#1844554 - 12/31/07 01:34 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Huckleberry]
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What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?






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#1844600 - 12/31/07 01:55 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: fastguy]
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better hope it rains
dont want to be buying feed
last year money was made, and plenty of hay on hand for this year

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#1844609 - 12/31/07 01:57 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: fastguy]
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 Originally Posted By: fastguy
What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?






Nothing she has been told twice already.
Now that thar jus aint rite
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#1844989 - 12/31/07 03:28 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: Chad Miller]
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Loc: Houston
 Originally Posted By: Chad Miller
Curious if any of us TFFers have any knowledge on the cattle industry. Thinking about adding a few pure bred Angus to my wife's grandfathers herd...anybody dabble?


I am really to far away to help. I am a graduate of Graham School for Cattlemen out of Garnet, Kansas. We raise Charlois.I am a certified pregnancy tester, AI inseminator, and a graduate of their herd managment school. If you would like more info PM me and we will talk.
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#1844994 - 12/31/07 03:31 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: bassman1]
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Lovely.....Do you still have to go shoulder deep to do your testing bassman?
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#1845036 - 12/31/07 03:43 PM Re: Any Cattle Guys in here? [Re: TheFirstNameThat]
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All I know is my grandfather liked herford cows crossed with angus bulls. He had to quit ranching when I was young so I did not get to learn much about cattle.
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