Curious if any of us TFFers have any knowledge on the cattle industry. Thinking about adding a few pure bred Angus to my wife's grandfathers herd...anybody dabble?

Here they make great steaks....

....and an okie states the obvious...lol

I have a vast Knowledge of the cattle tasting industry.

wow...strike two. At this rate, I'll be the knowledge king shortly after I've been dead 40 years.

Any serious input?

Cross-breeding is best for Angus. They can have a weak back.

well, at the moment, he has a Herford Bull, along with a couple other herfords and brangus, producing black baldies.

What?? Angus have the best calving track record of any breed.

Can't go wrong with Herefords or Angus. I had a Hereford/Angus cross steer I raised in FFA.

Just passing along what my grandaddy taught me. We bred red angus and herefords.

thanks for your input, T-Man. Trying to find a price range that I would expect to pay for either open Angus or bred Angus cows to add...I know the "prices" can vary depending on what bloodline, breeders, etc....just like deer.

Just didn't know a decent "average" to expect. Hoping to find more knowledge here.

An Angus Herford cross is very good.
My family had Herfords, my Mother-in-law still raises registered polled Herfords, and my uncle has reg black angus.
we crossed them a while back - were a good cross and had some good white faces come out. For some reason the meat houses still like a white face on the cattle.

racists

NAH - the cattle were mainly black with a pretty white face.
The best have a black ring around the eye.
I don't claim to understand the preference - just see it happen.

Yes...we've found that the black baldies are bringing a better price at the auction as well. I may/may not have the opportunity to snag some awesome genetics in the near future, and am planning on starting small. Just to have a calf or two to sell a year, possibly have one cut for meat.

might want to check the Longhorn.....

Mainly 'cause they have small calves. Cross 'em wrong (like with a Charolais) and you'll have troubles for sure.

If this was about sheep Ratmo would be an excellent source of information.

That's the way I like my women.

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?






Nothing she has been told twice already.

better hope it rains
dont want to be buying feed
last year money was made, and plenty of hay on hand for this year

Now that thar jus aint rite

I am really to far away to help. I am a graduate of Graham School for Cattlemen out of Garnet, Kansas. We raise Charlois.I am a certified pregnancy tester, AI inseminator, and a graduate of their herd managment school. If you would like more info PM me and we will talk.

Lovely.....Do you still have to go shoulder deep to do your testing bassman?

All I know is my grandfather liked herford cows crossed with angus bulls. He had to quit ranching when I was young so I did not get to learn much about cattle.

if you cross a cow and a pig do you get a bacon cheeseburger?

Depends on how far along the cow is. Sometimes if they are 70+ days along or so you can go in and twist your hand side to side on the femoral arteries and they will be buzzing. That's a dead give away and you only have to go forearm deep. I am posting and holding my breath. This thread could take a serious dive at any moment...Was the question a test to check me out?

I was certified in palpation and AI right out of HS. That's back when I thought I wanted to be an Ag teacher.

...and yes I have been shoulder deep many times

......no comment

I was serious bassman.....If I wouldn't have dropped out of school, I would've probably gone into some type of wildlife management....did studyin' in your specialties....lovely films they showed us.....just lovely....let's just say, I have a good idea on how to turn a bull on, collect the baby batter, and check around for what I helped create.......vivid memories

Two things they stressed. Do only your own cows otherwise you will have all the vets in the county mad at you, and never, ever try any of this on a mare. Also, trim fingernails to the quick and file them close...Couple of other things...Use a post crossways in the area between you and the cow, and or wear a well fitting cup

I used to have some cow in me but alas I grew old and - well you know...We did have a small herd of Angus and they did good even though they didn't have the weight of most breeds...If your gonna eat em' yep go for it but unless you have a market for them you won't make much when it comes to poundage...

I've done it all also. Not much anymore. Price of cows bottomed and I made the move. Havn't actually checked one in several years. Did breed several for a friend last year, but that's about it.

Sound like a perfect wife.

Just put him in the chute and adjust the current...He's turned on for sure...Don't forget the catch cup.

what can I say......I have "the touch"

I have hereford and black baldie cows...both work great. Mine are mostly commercial cows with a few older reg herefords. I mainly produce black baldie heifers to sell.

hey Chad PM me if ya need some help. we been raising cattle for years.

Justy you have been been alive for years!!!

sorry guess i did not explain.
my family has been raising cattle for years.
the breed i like best is Red Limousin

Funny ha ha..I knew as soon as I saw your queer shoes I couldn't go thru with it. I see you succeeded with flying rainbow colors.

Grew up on a farm with Angus and Herford. For southern states it is best to go with a mix of these to breeds if you want good cattle that will bring a profit and good eating beef. Unless you want to get into special cattle keep it simple.

Heck just jump the barbwire fence and borrow 5 or 6 cows to find out what you like then return them.

For what it's worth, I always had the best results both in calving and at sale with Simbra bulls on about any breed of cow. It leaves just enough "ear" and heat tolerance to make a go in our Texas climate.

herford and angus has already been said. some nice white faces for sale out off of 77 in schulemburg.

if you take my measurements and weight, I can probably be compared to a scaled down version of a cow

Thanks for the "help" guys..lol. Been doing some research and found a few sites similar to the TFF dealing with cattle. It's been a big help...

Everybody's heads feeling better today?

Chad,

PM me with the sites you found. We are getting out of the horse business and getting back into cattle.

If any of you want a paint horse yearling cheap, let me know.

I used to kill a lot of cows. Worked in a slaughter house on the kill floor. Showed a lot of steers in High School. I like Maine Anju(sp) for show purposes. Those show steers get mighty expensive.

anyone have any experience with "top of the line" genetics for Angus?