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#1637979 - 09/30/07 09:53 AM Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help
my3sons Offline
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Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 22
Replacing worn out trailer tires is getting old and expensive. I have replace one set of tires and both bearings and have done everything I know but it didn't seem to help. I have Carlise trailer tires. The first row (outer) of the passenger side has completely worn down. The inner three rows barely show any sign of wear. The other side (driver) tire on the other hand is just the opposite. The inner row has worn down completely while the outer rows barely show any sign of wear. These tires are less than 9 months old. I checked and measure the axle this morning to see if there is gross alignment problem but did not see any. It may be time to see professional help. If anyone knows of any trailer shop around DFW, I would appreciate if you pass the info on. The trailer is a single axle towing a 19 footer CC boat.

thanks in advance.

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#1638517 - 09/30/07 02:57 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: my3sons]
retdbasser Offline
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Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 652
Loc: Garland,TX
I had the same problem with Carlisle tires, 3000 miles and 1 year and they were shot. They wore on the inside only. Went back to Goodyear Marathon Radials and haven't had a problem since. First set of Goodyears lasted 8 years with good tread left but put new on because of age. This set is on 3rd year with no sign of wear.

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#1638658 - 09/30/07 04:53 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: retdbasser]
Monte Coon Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
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Where is the best place to buy the Goodyear Marathon Radials and how much should I expect to pay?
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#1638947 - 09/30/07 07:35 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Monte Coon]
rb7764 Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 1046
Loc: Frisco, TX, USA
It certainly could be a bent axle, but I have heard similar things about carlisle tires. I use Goodyear Marathons and have had no issues. Monte, send an email to Stan Browning here on the TFF. He had the best deal by far the last time I got some.

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#1638962 - 09/30/07 07:41 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: rb7764]
Monte Coon Offline
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Thanks I should of know Stan was the man for that too he comes through on every thing else.
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#1639060 - 09/30/07 08:22 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Monte Coon]
Yellowcat Offline
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Registered: 06/11/06
Posts: 9116
Loc: Zabcikville Texas
if you have alot of air in the tires (max presure).
and not hauling a very heavy load.
the tires will wear down first on the middle becasue there would not be enough weight to make the tread "flat" when moving on the road.
just think of it this way.
if you have a truck that is light in the rear end and you have max preasure in the tires you will have a slight rise on the tire going from the edge of the tire to the middle (tread).
i really dont know what the problem would be just throwing that info out.
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#1640005 - 10/01/07 11:21 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Yellowcat]
Stump jumper Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 828
Loc: Rockwall
Carlisles will wear the edges if not inflated near the max. I catch myself running low on air and put about 50 lbs in them. I think right now the inside grove on mine are not even making contact with the road. It is important on trailers that you check the air and keep it up.

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#1640526 - 10/01/07 03:36 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Monte Coon]
retdbasser Offline
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Registered: 11/29/06
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I bought mine at Wal-Mart.

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#1640774 - 10/01/07 05:41 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: retdbasser]
Hunt n Fish Offline
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Registered: 10/17/04
Posts: 388
Loc: Azle, Texas
Here's something to try...if all the other stuff doesn't work!

(1) Measure from the trailer tongue to each tire (same spot on driver & passenger side. (You can measure to the axle hubs) Basically you have formed two sides of what should be an Isosolese Triangle. The measurements should be the same - if not the axle may be sitting in the frame crooked.

(2) Measure from front of passenger tire to front of driver side tire. Then measure from back side of tires. Should be same. If not then one of the tires/wheels/spindles is bent. You can also measure top & bottom if you can get to them.

(3) Have someone pull the trailer and you drive behind and watch for wheel wobble and to see if the trailer is tracking straight.

Good luck
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#1640915 - 10/01/07 06:52 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Hunt n Fish]
Yellowcat Offline
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Registered: 06/11/06
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Loc: Zabcikville Texas
that sounds like a good way to check it out Hunt n Fish
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#1641425 - 10/02/07 06:04 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Yellowcat]
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Registered: 03/28/06
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Loc: Waxahachie
Thanks hunt n fish!!!
I have a tandem axle trailer that is chewing up tires on the front axle, which is also the brake axle, I have been wandering how to make sure she's sitting square!!
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#1641484 - 10/02/07 06:43 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Poorboy]
PvilleAngler Offline
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Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 692
Loc: Pflugerville
Hunt n Fish is correct. I had the same problem with a trailer I got with my boat from Travis Boats (never again). The tires were wearing out way too fast. The right tire was wearing on the outside, the left tire on the inside. I swapped the tires to get good rubber on the road. They still wore out within a few years of light pulling.

One time on a coastal trip my brother was pulling the boat and I was driving behind him and I noticed that the trailer seemed to be pulling to the left. Also, any time he hit a bump the trailer would swing side to side a little.

Went we got to Rockport we took a closer look at the trailer and discovered that the axle wasn't bolted on the trailer square. The left (port) side was an inch or two farther back than the right. We jacked up the trailer, loosened the Ubolts, and wacked the left side until both sides measured exactly the same.

Since then no problem.

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#1650540 - 10/06/07 08:15 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: PvilleAngler]
my3sons Offline
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Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 22
thanks for the help TFFers....

Well I decided to replace the leaf springs on my trailer since one side shows hairline fracture on two leafs on the left side. I figure this greatly reduces its loading capacity causing the uneven wear on both sides. I replaced the leafs with 3500 lbs capacity from Northern Tool Equipment. These springs (double eyelets) have only 4 leafs compared to the oem 5 leafs. Also, the springs are 27 inches instead of 25 1/2 in the original. The trailer now rides much better but is lowered also (roughly 2 inches or so lower). This much lower ride would seem dangerous to the boat and trailer the next time I hit a good size hole. I couldn't find the 25s locally so decided to try out the 27s. There is a shackle on each side to secure the springs to the trailer hanger. Since no one seems to have these 25s, can I beef up the loading to say 6000 lbs with 6 leafs for my trailer? My trailer is a single axle rated at 2770 lbs capacity and 3500 gvwr. How would this cause the ride and tire wear? Also, does anyone know where I can get kicker wheels for this trailer since I damaged them last night backing up the trailer to my driveway. My driveway slopes quite a bit. My buddy calls it "suicidal" driveway.

Thanks in advance for any help. I need to get the trailer fix soon so I can fish with my boys.

my3sons

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#1657292 - 10/09/07 08:53 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: my3sons]
C-Man Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 8219
Loc: Frisco, Tx
I had the same proble with Carlise tires, to tempermentle with air pressure, went back to Goodyearn no more problems.
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#1658315 - 10/09/07 04:59 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: C-Man]
stick steering Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Posts: 1482
love those goodyearn tires by the way c man the fish are biting are you ready

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#1659908 - 10/10/07 12:25 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: stick steering]
stick steering Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
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also proper inflation goes a long way

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#1664200 - 10/12/07 07:19 AM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Stump jumper]
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Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 7262
Loc: Copperas Cove, Tx
 Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Carlisles will wear the edges if not inflated near the max. I catch myself running low on air and put about 50 lbs in them. I think right now the inside grove on mine are not even making contact with the road. It is important on trailers that you check the air and keep it up.


I just realize that I have Carlisle tires on my trailer. I had it put on about 14 month ago. I tow the boat most every weekend sometimes twice in a weekend and noticed that the threads still look like new. I'll keep an eye on the thread wear, I keep the pressure at 44 psi, 185 Promaster CC on the trailer. Hope the tires last longer than what I've read. I will continue to check my bearings and make sure the axle don't have too much stress or bends. If not, might just have to get some Goodyears.. So far it's good!!
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#1773238 - 11/29/07 10:08 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: retdbasser]
knozzleman Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 292
Loc: crandall
 Originally Posted By: retdbasser
I had the same problem with Carlisle tires, 3000 miles and 1 year and they were shot. They wore on the inside only. Went back to Goodyear Marathon Radials and haven't had a problem since. First set of Goodyears lasted 8 years with good tread left but put new on because of age. This set is on 3rd year with no sign of wear.

DITTO, CARLISLE TIRES HAVE GIVEN ME NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS, I FINALLY WENT BACK TO MARATHONS WITH NO PROBLEMS, MINE ALWAYS WORE ON THE OUTSIDE.
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#1780686 - 12/03/07 07:55 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: knozzleman]
Codman Offline
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 773
Loc: Temple
rotate them
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#1786965 - 12/06/07 12:21 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Codman]
PvilleAngler Offline
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Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 692
Loc: Pflugerville
It may not be the tires. I had the same problem and found that my axle was not straight. It caused the outside of the tire to wear on the left and the inside to wear on the right.

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#1869092 - 01/09/08 01:40 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: PvilleAngler]
Miguel Diaz Offline
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Registered: 07/29/04
Posts: 198
Loc: Weatherford, TX
With dual axle trailers you will have some additional wear when you turn, specially hard turns. One set of tires (on the same side) will not turn as fast and drag on the ground causing tire wear.

Alignment of tires, tire balance and proper infalation will always give you more miles with less wear.
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#1869646 - 01/09/08 04:22 PM Re: Uneven wear on trailer tires, need prof help [Re: Miguel Diaz]
Stephen Mills Offline
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Registered: 05/18/06
Posts: 1254
Loc: Seminole
Your ball is probably to low, causing your trailer to be nose heavy not ballancing your load. Make sure you boat is level on the trailer.
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